RIAA, who really is losing the money?? - GoFuckYourself.com

playa · 09-09-2003, 07:01 PM

I keep on hearing that the Artists are the ones loosing money,
I thought that most of the artists makes like .10 per sale?

Don't most groups make money from tours and other promo's?

music sharing seems like free advertising to me. Just like DJ's selling mixtapes, the artists don't get any money from them do they?

If anyone should be the blame, its companies that make products that make it easier to make MP3's

Hell i own a Sony CD burner, RIO player, and Kenwood MP3 car stereo, If i didn't have these there wouldn't really be a point to download music

LadyMischief · 09-09-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by playa
I keep on hearing that the Artists are the ones loosing money,
I thought that most of the artists makes like .10 per sale?

Don't most groups make money from tours and other promo's?

music sharing seems like free advertising to me. Just like DJ's selling mixtapes, the artists don't get any money from them do they?

If anyone should be the blame, its companies that make products that make it easier to make MP3's

Hell i own a Sony CD burner, RIO player, and Kenwood MP3 car stereo, If i didn't have these there wouldn't really be a point to download music

Yeah that's kind of what I wonder.. why aren't they going after sony, kenwood, and all these other places that are making mp3s more appealing by making products that play them? Makes NO fucking sense.

detoxed · 09-09-2003, 07:29 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

Yeah that's kind of what I wonder.. why aren't they going after sony, kenwood, and all these other places that are making mp3s more appealing by making products that play them? Makes NO fucking sense.

Nothing wrong with mp3's, only mp3's that are pirated

Fletch XXX · 09-09-2003, 07:32 PM

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Originally posted by LadyMischief

Yeah that's kind of what I wonder.. why aren't they going after sony, kenwood, and all these other places that are making mp3s more appealing by making products that play them? Makes NO fucking sense.

TDK, and many other household names still make blank tapes to copy tapes too.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/7/32690.html

xxxdesign-net · 09-09-2003, 07:40 PM

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Originally posted by playa
I keep on hearing that the Artists are the ones loosing money,
I thought that most of the artists makes like .10 per sale?

Don't most groups make money from tours and other promo's?

music sharing seems like free advertising to me. Just like DJ's selling mixtapes, the artists don't get any money from them do they?

If anyone should be the blame, its companies that make products that make it easier to make MP3's

Hell i own a Sony CD burner, RIO player, and Kenwood MP3 car stereo, If i didn't have these there wouldn't really be a point to download music

$0.10 ?? and how much the record label is doing ? Should be about the same for established artist minus publicity and video clips...

$15 millions revenue for 1 million in sale.. minus $500k per clip x 3... $4 millions in ads... $1 million to produce the album.. $8,5 millions divided by 2 = $4.25 millions which makes $4.25 per $15 CD sales.... for the artists...

Just guessing the numbers here... but im pretty sure its at least $1 per CD.. for fairly known artists...

sandman! · 09-09-2003, 07:44 PM

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Originally posted by xxxdesign-net

$0.10 ?? and how much the record label is doing ? Should be about the same for established artist minus publicity and video clips...

$15 millions revenue for 1 million in sale.. minus $500k per clip x 3... $4 millions in ads... $1 million to produce the album.. $8,5 millions divided by 2 = $4.25 millions which makes $4.25 per $15 CD sales.... for the artists...

Just guessing the numbers here... but im pretty sure its at least $1 per CD.. for fairly known artists...

$4.25 per cd? i dont think any artist has broke the $2 mark you dont know anything about the music industry do you.

Huggles · 09-09-2003, 07:45 PM

Yeah MP3 decks kinda make buying a CD pointless. Why buy CDs when you can download music and then fit 100s of songs onto a cd you burn? ( Not to mention weed out the shitty tracks off a CD )

KRL · 09-09-2003, 07:45 PM

Artist royalties usually range from 10% to 25% of the suggested retail price for top-line albums, with deductions being made for packaging costs. For example, if a songwriter/artist has a 16% royalty, a 25% packaging deduction, and sells one million CDs in the U.S. of a $17 suggested-retail-priced album, the basic calculations would look like this:

$17.00 CD
- $4.25 Packaging Deduction
_______________

$12.75 Royalty Base

x 16% Royalty Rate

_______________

$2.04 Artist Royalty

x 1,000,000 Units

_______________

$2,000,000 + in Income

The big money is in publishing rights and owning a catalog of songs.

xxxdesign-net · 09-09-2003, 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by sandman!

you dont know anything about the music industry do you.

Damn, I've been exposed!!

btw... I said I was guessing numbers...

NBDesign · 09-09-2003, 09:56 PM

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Originally posted by playa
I keep on hearing that the Artists are the ones loosing money,
I thought that most of the artists makes like .10 per sale?

Don't most groups make money from tours and other promo's?

music sharing seems like free advertising to me. Just like DJ's selling mixtapes, the artists don't get any money from them do they?

If anyone should be the blame, its companies that make products that make it easier to make MP3's

Hell i own a Sony CD burner, RIO player, and Kenwood MP3 car stereo, If i didn't have these there wouldn't really be a point to download music

Yea, it's just like acacia going after adult webmasters for streaming video that they created using 3rd party technology... i.e. real player, quicktime and media player, premier and so on....

These people go after the easy win.. the people that cannot fight a long expensive legal battle... I mean please... a 12 year old facing 150,000 per song? and then to take 2,000 away from that poor little girl. There goes her college fund... another crack whore in the making or porn queen... same difference it seems lol.

cluck · 09-09-2003, 10:00 PM

The artists who are making a few dollars per album sold are the independant artists. For them MP3 is free advertising.

09-09-2003, 07:01 PM	#1
playa Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: atlanta, GA Posts: 6,432	RIAA, who really is losing the money?? I keep on hearing that the Artists are the ones loosing money, I thought that most of the artists makes like .10 per sale? Don't most groups make money from tours and other promo's? music sharing seems like free advertising to me. Just like DJ's selling mixtapes, the artists don't get any money from them do they? If anyone should be the blame, its companies that make products that make it easier to make MP3's Hell i own a Sony CD burner, RIO player, and Kenwood MP3 car stereo, If i didn't have these there wouldn't really be a point to download music

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	Artist royalties usually range from 10% to 25% of the suggested retail price for top-line albums, with deductions being made for packaging costs. For example, if a songwriter/artist has a 16% royalty, a 25% packaging deduction, and sells one million CDs in the U.S. of a $17 suggested-retail-priced album, the basic calculations would look like this: $17.00 CD - $4.25 Packaging Deduction _______________ $12.75 Royalty Base x 16% Royalty Rate _______________ $2.04 Artist Royalty x 1,000,000 Units _______________ $2,000,000 + in Income The big money is in publishing rights and owning a catalog of songs. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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