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European Lee 10-12-2004 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
I was hoping it would not get to this stage.. but to cut a long story short, we did this project in Feb 03 for Lee. As you can see now, we've did a lot of versions & changes for him (there are more). By March / April Lee said he's got a final change.. which I'm not sure what it is or even if there is a final change.

To cut a long story short, I've been emailing Lee and ICQing him at least monthly since then to get this 'final change' .

What pissed me off is not the fact there may be changes required, but the fact he has not replied to my emails, ICQ, or msg board threads for about 6 months now.

Lee, if you run a shady business this is what happens.

Get your fucking shit together man, dont' fuck people around. Period.

Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

eroswebmaster 10-12-2004 07:52 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately :2 cents:
While I would have to agree with you, this is the adult internet I've seen the accounting department, CFO's and CEO's say much worse. It's a damn shame really.

European Lee 10-12-2004 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
if one of my employees said this they would be fired immediately :2 cents:
Agreed.

Thankfully we only have 2 employees who are not 'board' orientated so we dont have that problem :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

sarettah 10-12-2004 07:54 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... how many fags are currently working for you, evan ??
If you have a problem with gays, you are in the wrong business. Gay is an extremely profitable niche and there are lots of gay folk in the biz.

XPays 10-12-2004 07:57 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... how many fags are currently working for you, evan ??
it's none of my business what they do on their personal time

XPays 10-12-2004 07:58 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

did you suffer any damages from the site being seen?

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 07:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Uchase is what in relation to Blue Design Studios?

How did he get to see a copy of a, by your own admission, un-completed site design?

Regards,

Lee

... mate, I have been andrew's fuck buddy for years, when we exchange boddy fluids we whispers scammer's names in each others ears.

has your CFO/CTO/CEO got web access ... gently point him to www.paypal.com so he can cover your personal fuckup.

European Lee 10-12-2004 07:59 PM

Still awaiting an answer to how / why uchase got to see the uncompleted design Andrew.

Want to shed some light on the matter for us all?

Regards,

Lee

XPays 10-12-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
Agreed.

Thankfully we only have 2 employees who are not 'board' orientated so we dont have that problem :thumbsup

Regards,

Lee

so then they should see the value of blue design thanking you for the wire or fedex'd check and uchase's apology for the personal slams as quickly as possible :2 cents:

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:00 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
did you suffer any damages from the site being seen?
You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

Regards,

Lee

SL|M! 10-12-2004 08:00 PM

Yup! this isnt the first time that Lee hasnt payed. I'm still waiting for my $$

sextoyking 10-12-2004 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by XPays
todd posted Days ago stalking a client for back-owed money krl. so even he won't agree with your settle privately perfect world scenario.

bluedesign got an email from me to call me about http://HotelHeiress.com and my phone rang 2 seconds after i pressed send. every change, fix, misspelling, distorted graphic and nitpickey request was handled professionally and accurately.

i am glad i paid up front too!! bluedesign makes a living creating designs and would not imho initiate a collections on what could be a recurring customer unless they were left with little other recourse.

also- it looks like the invoice will be paid- so the tactic worked.

todd- did you ever collect the bad debt you were posting about a few days ago? if yes than it's 2 for 2, if no then 1 for 2 is better than 0 for 2.

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Evan,

Thanks for your concearn :)

Actually you know I never bring shit / drama to the boards or anywhere else, this isn't 1996-97 you know, LOL

As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

So as I said, We have not been paid by '2' companies in all these years.

Guy from last night, and 2 yrs ago some Jonathon guy who was working with Larry Flynts son on a site....

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:02 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

... $500.000 budget, but no $550 left to pay for the design ... get fucked, fag !!

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
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Evan,

Thanks for your concearn :)

Actually you know I never bring shit / drama to the boards or anywhere else, this isn't 1996-97 you know, LOL

As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

So as I said, We have not been paid by '2' companies in all these years.

Guy from last night, and 2 yrs ago some Jonathon guy who was working with Larry Flynts son on a site....

Well shit Todd... i havent gotten any email from you dude :Graucho :1orglaugh

Regards,

Lee

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:04 PM

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Originally posted by SL|M!
Yup! this isnt the first time that Lee hasnt payed. I'm still waiting for my $$
... time to collect ... post details in this thread and we get things going !!!

SL|M! 10-12-2004 08:06 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... time to collect ... post details in this thread and we get things going !!!
Nothing major. Did a few translations for him. He payed half, still waiting on the other half. Its been like 2 years though. Maybe $300

sextoyking 10-12-2004 08:07 PM

Yeh Uchase def. has some issues in the homophobic dept. Dunno mabey he is in the closet himself.

BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2004 08:07 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
You mean apart from undoing all of the marketing launch for the redesign in Vegas that we had planned?

Regards,

Lee

Why didn't you send me an email to let me know?

I've sent you at least 20 emails in the past 3 months, and a lot more ICQ msgs. Shit I've even posted threads on this msg board asking you to contact me.

Were you too busy to respond?

BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
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As I posted yesterday, this person was warned several time via email, phone, etc. He kept saying I will pay tonight, etc. I don't play bull shit games when it comes to paying bills. You know us, when we get a bill from any company online, offline, etc it's paid then and there.

Wow, that sounds like what I've been through with Lee.

I gave Lee 9 months to get his shit together.

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:08 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
Why didn't you send me an email to let me know?

I've sent you at least 20 emails in the past 3 months, and a lot more ICQ msgs. Shit I've even posted threads on this msg board asking you to contact me.

Were you too busy to respond?

But how did uchase get to see the unfinished design?

THAT is my question, not WHY you showed it to him :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

Spunky 10-12-2004 08:08 PM

:glugglug 100

sextoyking 10-12-2004 08:09 PM

Andrew,

Where is Wade at? I am sure he wouldn't go for releasing anyone's designs before they become public or the company has given permission??

Wade's a straight up guy, he will handle this I am sure.

:)

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Andrew,

Where is Wade at? I am sure he wouldn't go for releasing anyone's designs before they become public or the company has given permission??

Wade's a straight up guy, he will handle this I am sure.

:)

Perhaps Wade = uchase?

Would explain how he knew so much about what was happening :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
But how did uchase get to see the unfinished design?

THAT is my question, not WHY you showed it to him :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

How about I answer your question when you answer all my questions..

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:10 PM

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Originally posted by sextoyking
Yeh Uchase def. has some issues in the homophobic dept. Dunno mabey he is in the closet himself.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh
... wanna run that through with lee's CGO ??

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:11 PM

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Originally posted by BlueDesignStudios
How about I answer your question when you answer all my questions..
Stop evading the topic :1orglaugh

You never got an email from me because i was busy with more important things... like running my existing sites that have full designs on them :2 cents:

Your turn now :)

Regards,

Lee

SL|M! 10-12-2004 08:12 PM

Still waiting on my answer...

BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2004 08:13 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
Stop evading the topic :1orglaugh

You never got an email from me because i was busy with more important things... like running my existing sites that have full designs on them :2 cents:

Your turn now :)

Regards,

Lee

Ok so you are saying you haven't responded to my ICQ / Emails / Msg board posts etc for 6 months now because you have been too busy?

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Perhaps Wade = uchase?

Would explain how he knew so much about what was happening :2 cents:

Regards,

Lee

... it's amazing how scammers always find a way out. besides the bill is getting payed this week, this lowlife scumbag is still denying having done anything wrong.

... it's impossible to nail a scammer.

XPays 10-12-2004 08:13 PM

this is about the point where someone posts "keep your $500" we don't want your money and would rather hang this over your head forever

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:15 PM

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Originally posted by SL|M!
Still waiting on my answer...
... give us the details here !!! you came to the right thread at the right time.

... let's discuss this with lee while andre and myslef are having our lunch break.

J B 10-12-2004 08:16 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
You never got an email from me because i was busy with more important things... like running my existing sites that have full designs on them :2 cents:
hmmm... so you give a project to a desgn company, they do all the designs, you tell them they need to make a few small changes and then you don't reply to any emails and icq's for 6 months while you haven't paid for the designs yet?

JJSLIMM 10-12-2004 08:19 PM

My 2 cents...

I have known Bluedesignstudios for years now.. They are EXTREMELY professional! Andrew has great business ethics to back up his quality work.

For those of you who don't know ....Just do a search on here and you will find I am not the only one that feels that way.

I suggest working things out in a professional way..I'm sure Andrew has a very fair solution.

European Lee 10-12-2004 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by J B
hmmm... so you give a project to a desgn company, they do all the designs, you tell them they need to make a few small changes and then you don't reply to any emails and icq's for 6 months while you haven't paid for the designs yet?
Yes.

Its called prioritizing.

Working on a 'new' design isnt as important as working on existing sites.

As a businessman i would expect you would rather work to keep your income stream flowing rather than stopping it in order to work on something else would you not?

Regards,

Lee

SL|M! 10-12-2004 08:19 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
... give us the details here !!! you came to the right thread at the right time.

... let's discuss this with lee while andre and myslef are having our lunch break.

Drama has been resolved..lol

uchase/webpry 10-12-2004 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J B
hmmm... so you give a project to a desgn company, they do all the designs, you tell them they need to make a few small changes and then you don't reply to any emails and icq's for 6 months while you haven't paid for the designs yet?
... sounds pretty much like him.
:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

XPays 10-12-2004 08:21 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
Yes.

Its called prioritizing.


Regards,

Lee

it's called screwing your vendors

XPays 10-12-2004 08:22 PM

pay for it personally and let your company reimburse you

BlueDesignStudios 10-12-2004 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by J B
hmmm... so you give a project to a desgn company, they do all the designs, you tell them they need to make a few small changes and then you don't reply to any emails and icq's for 6 months while you haven't paid for the designs yet?
Anyone who is just starting to read the thread on this page, this is a neat summary that cuts through all the bullshit.

J B 10-12-2004 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Yes.

Its called prioritizing.

Working on a 'new' design isnt as important as working on existing sites.

As a businessman i would expect you would rather work to keep your income stream flowing rather than stopping it in order to work on something else would you not?

Regards,

Lee

Well, talking about prioritizing... as a businessman I make sure that all my bills are paid.


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