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Old 10-08-2004, 06:43 PM   #1
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Kerry is kicking Bush's ass so far.

I hate to admit it, but Kerry is whuppin' him somethin' worse.

Bush should cut out the angry stuff and just be sincere and tell the truth.
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Old 10-08-2004, 06:45 PM   #2
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Yep, Bush is getting owned again!
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yep that angry stuff just makes him look like a child. it also makes him look like if it doesnt go his way hes gonna make it goes his way, shows that he doesnt care about others but himself.
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Old 10-08-2004, 06:56 PM   #4
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Yeah, Bush sounds like he got his crib notes from Rush Limbaugh.

He sounds like one of those antagonistic right wing talk show hosts instead of a scholar and a gentleman.

Kerry's a pro at this debate shit. He's countering Bush's snide comments like a pro tennis match.

Sure Bush knows how to appease to big business. He knows what side his bread is buttered on.

Ferengi Rules of Acquistion in effect boy-o!

Kerry on the other hand is CRAZY! He's talking raising taxes on the rich. That's political suicide.
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kerry is kickin some ass, but for once it almost seems like bush is holding his own....which I have not seen yet
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:00 PM   #6
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kerry is kickin some ass, but for once it almost seems like bush is holding his own....which I have not seen yet
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Well, when you simply lie, it could appear you are winning.

Bush says the facts. Kerry voted to raise taxes 98 times. He can't hide from that. It's a fact.
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:07 PM   #9
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Kerry is smoooth, more eloquent and dead on balls accurate on most points.

His downfall is his tax history. Typical liberal irresponsible bullshit.

He doesn't understand that we're a gun totin'-get all you can afer the sherrif catches on type of culture.

Kerry's talking like the population is literate and moral or something.

Bush speaks in terms that any good ol' boy can understand.

If he says 'my opponent has been in the Senate for 20 years..' one more time it'll be a catch phrase.

Kerry is far sharper but a dangerous dude. I guess he actually believes negotiating and diplomacy works or some shit.
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Kerry is smoooth, more eloquent and dead on balls accurate on most points.

His downfall is his tax history. Typical liberal irresponsible bullshit.

He doesn't understand that we're a gun totin'-get all you can afer the sherrif catches on type of culture.

Kerry's talking like the population is literate and moral or something.

Bush speaks in terms that any good ol' boy can understand.

If he says 'my opponent has been in the Senate for 20 years..' one more time it'll be a catch phrase.

Kerry is far sharper but a dangerous dude. I guess he actually believes negotiating and diplomacy works or some shit.
Well said.

Thought Bush was gonna bunch Kerry out for awhile there.
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Bush is getting in more zingers which the public remembers after the debate.

Like just now when Kerry incorrectly said he owned a limber company.

"I own a limber company!?!? (pause) Need some wood?"
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Bush is real kerry is weak!
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:14 PM   #13
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Bush is getting in more zingers which the public remembers after the debate.

Like just now when Kerry incorrectly said he owned a limber company.

"I own a limber company!?!? (pause) Need some wood?"
ROFL!!!

BUSH said " I need some WOOD"

Get it??? BUSH/WOOD???

Ha Ha! He make a funny!!!!
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Kerry is far sharper but a dangerous dude. I guess he actually believes negotiating and diplomacy works or some shit.
so very very true and don't think most people know how dangerous
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I hate to admit it, but Kerry is whuppin' him somethin' worse.

Bush should cut out the angry stuff and just be sincere and tell the truth.
you can't handle the truth
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When you bring Michael Fox and Chris Reeve into your speach you know you've fucked up
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Bush says he's increased wetlands by 3 million. Huh? 3 million what?
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Bush says he's increased wetlands by 3 million. Huh? 3 million what?
yeah I was wondering that as well lol
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so very very true and don't think most people know how dangerous
JimmyF don't get me wrong, I think the people AROUND Bush are FUBAR. Not Bush himself. He's the most normal guy in office since Harry Truman. Problem with Kerry is HE'S the problem but the people AROUND him are decent, except his loud mouthed wife.

Kerry doesn't show ANY signs of being a strong leader with strong convictions. He's too wishy washy. He doesn't understand the basics of survival. He DOES understand the basics of administration which Bush's guys do NOT.

Either way we're in serious danger. We're too deep in the shit because of this 'War on Terror' bullshit. Yet we KNOW Bush won't hesitate to pull the trigger. Kerry on the other hand would rather debate instead of taking the shot. Ain't never seen a gunfight where one guy used language agin a Colt.45. Laws of physics don't work that way.

Kerry is a statesman. Bush is a guy. Big difference. Kerry's judgement is better in the long run but for the short term it's way too flawed.

Bush is too superstitious and opinionated.

Bottom line is no new taxes, no increases in taxes, we need better management not tax increases and bullshit. If the country were managed right you wouldn't NEED to up taxes. Yet none of them want to take responsibility. It's too EASY to milk you or me to get the money instead of sitting down and doing the books.

Kerry= beuracracy, higher taxes, and a disaster in foreign affairs.

Bush= beuracracy, highter taxes, and ALREADY a disaster in foreign affairs.

There's a time for haulin' ass, a time for kickin' ass.
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Bush continous to get the religious vote with his stance on abortion though.
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wait he increased the wetlands lol yeah he increased the amount of wetlands gone by using his wood company.
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that 3 million would be acres....

Since you guys like to point out how bad you think Bush is doing, I want to know if anyone is going to point how many times Kerry has fumbled his words? Or royaly fucked up a sentence? How about him sitting there with a blank stare in space, because he can't formulate the proper answer for the person who asked the question.
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Bush looked like a little boy waiting to recieve a spanking.
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Old 10-08-2004, 07:47 PM   #26
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Both did fairly well IMO. I like that Kerry finally cleared up the accusations of flip-floping. He made clear the reasons why he voted against things that he previously was in favor of. He said it's because there are portions of those bills and pieces of legislation that he disagrees with. You can agree with 99% of a bill but it can have one or two clauses that are downright wrong, and therefore you don't vote for it.

What if you had a bill that stated helping the homeless, but also had a clause in it that said 'help' meant giving them beer. I'd be in favor of helping the homeless but I'd sharply disagree that giving them beer is the way to do it. So I'd wouldn't vote for it. Kerry made a mistake by saying he agreed with a bill or legislation when he agreed with only portions of it and strongly opposed other portions of it that he feels need changing.

Things are rarely black and white. But they're often presented that way.
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http://post.polls.yahoo.com/quiz/quizresults.php
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Well, when you simply lie, it could appear you are winning.

Bush says the facts. Kerry voted to raise taxes 98 times. He can't hide from that. It's a fact.
Yeah, those damn 22 bills on fishing license fees in the national parks are going to break the backs of all Americans!

Another IDIOT CHILD that says something in a blanket statement and doesn't have any PRECISE proof to back up the statement.

I could just say to you: That you are a mass murderer!!

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Bush is getting in more zingers which the public remembers after the debate.

Like just now when Kerry incorrectly said he owned a limber company.

"I own a limber company!?!? (pause) Need some wood?"
Hey dead wood! He DOES! (and it's not limber timber either)

Peter Jennings on the ABC news tonight read the information about the timber company that Bush DOES own!

Even BUSH doesn't know what companies he owns.

And you obviously don't know jack either!

Anything else you want to "fact check " on or in your case I think it would be "Fat Chick"!
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WHY?

Both men have testified at length about their disease and how embryonic stem cell search could bring IMPORTANT information and CURES.

Amazing how gawd awful short sighted some people can be when we have the tools in front of us to make incredible progress but we don't dare do it because "the Bible says it's wrong."

Now that IS RETARDED!
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Kerry doesn't show ANY signs of being a strong leader with strong convictions. He's too wishy washy. He doesn't understand the basics of survival. He DOES understand the basics of administration which Bush's guys do NOT.

Damn dude...time to take those blinders off and start seeing what REALLY is happening and what REALLY is truth vs fiction!
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WHY?

Both men have testified at length about their disease and how embryonic stem cell search could bring IMPORTANT information and CURES.

Amazing how gawd awful short sighted some people can be when we have the tools in front of us to make incredible progress but we don't dare do it because "the Bible says it's wrong."

Now that IS RETARDED!
I'm curious which passage discusses stem cells.
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I'm curious which passage discusses stem cells.
So typical.
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Kerry is ....His downfall is his tax history. Typical liberal irresponsible bullshit.
So continuing to spend money like crazy while cutting taxes for the rich, which has produced a record deficit with no end in sight, is more responsible?

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I guess he actually believes negotiating and diplomacy works or some shit.
You mean as opposed to telling the rest of the world to fuck off and starting a war for bogus reasons, so that the rest of the world doesnt trust us now? You actually think thats better?
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Bush does own a timber company
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Bush is getting in more zingers which the public remembers after the debate.

Like just now when Kerry incorrectly said he owned a limber company.

"I own a limber company!?!? (pause) Need some wood?"
Well, Kerry wasn't wrong..Bush does own part of one. Want some w00d?
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More truth to the pudding

The study determined the following IQs of each president as
accurate to within five percentage points. In order by presidential term:

142 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
121 - Gerald R. Ford
175 - James Earle Carter
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
182 - William Jefferson Clinton
091 - George Walker Bush

In IQ order:

182 - William Jefferson Clinton
175 - James Earle Carter
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
147 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
121 - Gerald R. Ford
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
091 - George Walker Bush

The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest at 155. President George W. Bush rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91.


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that 3 million would be acres....

Since you guys like to point out how bad you think Bush is doing, I want to know if anyone is going to point how many times Kerry has fumbled his words? Or royaly fucked up a sentence? How about him sitting there with a blank stare in space, because he can't formulate the proper answer for the person who asked the question.
I thought he was talking about 3 million cumshots to help the wetlands remain wet
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More truth to the pudding

The study determined the following IQs of each president as
accurate to within five percentage points. In order by presidential term:

142 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
121 - Gerald R. Ford
175 - James Earle Carter
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
182 - William Jefferson Clinton
091 - George Walker Bush

In IQ order:

182 - William Jefferson Clinton
175 - James Earle Carter
174 - John Fitzgerald Kennedy
155 - Richard Milhous Nixon
147 - Franklin Delano Roosevelt
132 - Harry S Truman
126 - Lyndon Baines Johnson
122 - Dwight David Eisenhower
121 - Gerald R. Ford
105 - Ronald Wilson Reagan
098 - George Herbert Walker Bush
091 - George Walker Bush

The six Republican presidents of the past 50 years had an average IQ of 115.5, with President Nixon having the highest at 155. President George W. Bush rated the lowest of all the Republicans with an IQ of 91.


Holy Snot!

You mean my IQ is higher than any of these guys! Why I oughtta run for president!
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