FREE CECash Mailers 6 mill - Lee wants?

[LeeNoga]

This business is rough...so if your reading this you will know I mean business when I say...I will give you 6 million confirmed delivery double opt in mailing in the FACE of the surfer with your products in exchange for.....

This week only...

In exchange for......

Your making me work harder than Aly at Python....

In exchange for.....

An email saying, "Your full of shit Lee, what do you want ?"

......and I will respond and tell you what I want for the exchange.

This is the first and last time I will make this offer...trust me there.


Clock ticking, deal is off the table Friday..

[email protected]

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

5 figures?

[Jman]

Hey Ma, hope all is well please hit me up on ICQ ;-)

[LeeNoga]

Nope, I want 2K, T_W_O GRAND towards something. This is a LEGITIMATE mailout by CECash....this is NOT a rip off list and CECash will do the mailing....

I give this to you and you give CECash...2K for...........something else....

Email me.

Don' want to step on Lens toes, he steps back a lot harder :-))

[SmokeyTheBear]

Im confused ? Your selling spots on cecash mailers ??

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

CE's list is gold.

I might be able to work somthing out with some clients
Hit me up on ICQ

ctrl-shift: 194806018

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Im confused ? Your selling spots on cecash mailers ??

Let me un-confuse you.

Lee pulls out the chainsaw and cuts away a few limbs.

No forest left.

Raw land.

Your product will be placed in the mailer to the surfer by the millions in exchange for....something I want...and what I want I do not want to disrespect Lens and say it over here....

Yes, a spot in the mailer, you reap the sales.....we take nothing. We do the mailing....

I am using this golden egg for something in return.....

What I want in return costs 2 grand....thats all there is to this.

[SmokeyTheBear]

Is this a link on the mailers cecash sends out , or an exclusive email using the allaccess/cemag email list.

[SmokeyTheBear]

got ya

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by SmokeyTheBear
Is this a link on the mailers cecash sends out , or an exclusive email using the allaccess/cemag email list.

Non exclusive unless you give me the rights to your first born :-))

You go in rotation and you will be in all 47 niches, and YES, they come from the CEmag proggies etc.

We paid out the ass for these emails, and you get a shot at them for a small 2K fee towards something of my choice :-))

[LeeNoga]

Ah......wonderful, simply fabulous.

THANK-YOU for the business my friends....told you it was an awesome offer never to be repeated anytime soon.....You will be quite pleased on so many fronts :-)))

Keep the emails coming....looks like the bookings will be a sellout.

2 GRAND......

[SteveLightspeed]

What do you want? Would you be willing to honor the agreements that your predecessors put in place that no one ever told us to end our side of the deal? We seriously need to talk.

Steve Lightspeed

[Far-L]

Does the list include the double opt names generated by the Homegrown Video list?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

woa...

Piss comming watch out.

[GonZo]

Originally posted by Far-L
Does the list include the double opt names generated by the Homegrown Video list?

Have you heard....Lee came out of retirement?

[Far-L]

Originally posted by AlienQ
woa...

Piss comming watch out.

Since when do legitimate businsess questions get filed away as "piss"?

[LeeNoga]

FAR-L, people are going to think you and I are dating the way we romance everytime I start a thread.

I do not know anything about your company or past dealings, I have only been back a few weeks. I read AVN, I know there is some stuff going on but that does not concern me and it should not be made to concern me.

I want you to hold me accountable for what I do.

What did I do?

Welp.

Offered to give you a lesbian experience for 10 grand at a place of your choice :-)))

Er, I mean I would offer Aly from Python, she is a good sport about my deals :-))

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally posted by Far-L
Since when do legitimate businsess questions get filed away as "piss"?

Since your to stupid to call and ask ya wanna make it a public issue maybe?

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Lightspeed
What do you want? Would you be willing to honor the agreements that your predecessors put in place that no one ever told us to end our side of the deal? We seriously need to talk.

Steve Lightspeed

Steve I want your business, and if there is something that happend in the past, I want a chance to sort it out and make it right with you.

You know me, I am no nonsense, and it is all about honor, nothing has changed with me.

Drop me an email with your phone and let me right the past.

[email protected]

[Far-L]

Originally posted by AlienQ
Since your to stupid to call and ask ya wanna make it a public issue maybe?

I am asking a simple legit question and I chose this forum because the offer being made on this board might actually relate to our business interests so I was well within my right to ask and in the manner of my own choosing.

What business do you actually have here? Besides looking for a pissing match?

You don't even work for CE anymore do you? Do you still get paid per post to play cheerleader?

[Far-L]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
FAR-L, people are going to think you and I are dating the way we romance everytime I start a thread.

I do not know anything about your company or past dealings, I have only been back a few weeks. I read AVN, I know there is some stuff going on but that does not concern me and it should not be made to concern me.

I want you to hold me accountable for what I do.

What did I do?

Welp.

Offered to give you a lesbian experience for 10 grand at a place of your choice :-)))

Er, I mean I would offer Aly from Python, she is a good sport about my deals :-))

Actually Lee, I am quite tired of the dance and that is no offense to you or your skills as a lesbian dancer.

I love Aly too, who doesn't?

I just want a straight answer, no dancing around it. Can you please tell me if the Homegrown names are included in that list?

[D-Money]

Off topic a bit.

LEE!!!

Long time no see!

I would be honored to have you help me present the Playette Of The Year again for the Players Ball if you're gonna be in Vegas.

And of course I will have a pass for my first Playette.

Much love, hope to get caught up soon.

[European Lee]

Originally posted by GonZo
Have you heard....Lee came out of retirement?

For the 10th time in the last decade ;)

Regards,

Lee

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by D-Money

I would be honored to have you help me present the Playette Of The Year again for the Players Ball if you're gonna be in Vegas.

D-Money Babee!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Much Love My Brutha'.

I would be honored to present the award in Vegas.

I will be there after a couple of years off from the business, what a wonderful way to ring in the new year with my family of playa's.

All my love to you and the Mrs! XXXOOOO

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Far-L
I just want a straight answer, no dancing around it. Can you please tell me if the Homegrown names are included in that list?

*sigh*, I have given you the most honest of answers. You still ask for more.

This mailing CECash will do comes from risky, teen and the XXXMags. The email programs do no business with Homegrown Video.

That is my final answer.

PS--I did not have to phone a friend, and I still have 3 life lines left :-))

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by European Lee
For the 10th time in the last decade ;)

Regards,

Lee

What you won't do or say to get some tagline exposure?

Now.

Write a 2 grand check and make a real marketing attempt :-)

[European Lee]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
What you won't do or say to get some tagline exposure?

Now.

Write a 2 grand check and make a real marketing attempt :-)

How many times has the list been mailed previously?

What is the return / bounce rate of the list?

Is the list seperated by market? I.e gay / straight?

How long will it be until you retire again?

Regards,

Lee

[Far-L]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
*sigh*, I have given you the most honest of answers. You still ask for more.

This mailing CECash will do comes from risky, teen and the XXXMags. The email programs do no business with Homegrown Video.

That is my final answer.

PS--I did not have to phone a friend, and I still have 3 life lines left :-))

So the names that Homegrown generated that WERE previously being used with the Risky, Teen, and XXXmag lists are not being used?

I cannot imagine what it must be like to dance atop such thin air....

Then do you know what is going on with the Homegrown list currently in the possession of the company that you currently work for that was formerly CE but now is not except kind of still is but who knows maybe it is and maybe it isn't depends who is asking but don't ask anyone who works here because they don't even know?

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by European Lee
How many times has the list been mailed previously?

What is the return / bounce rate of the list?

Is the list seperated by market? I.e gay / straight?

How long will it be until you retire again?

Regards,

Lee

Lee, if you read this thread I talk about 47 niches, so obviously we can target to the sponsors needs....and do the best fit.

Second, perhaps you should go over to http://www.cecash.com and read about the truckloads of money we have paid out for years to webmasters harvesting emails..

I will give you the benefit of doubt here even tho you just want to stir shit for tagline exposures.

As for the validity of the list.....this list was built, cleaned, maintained for years. It grows daily, you understand the mailing business, we are above board.

Maybe FREE was to expensive for you.

Want me to finance the free for ya? :-))

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Far-L
So the names that Homegrown generated that WERE previously being used with the Risky, Teen, and XXXmag lists are not being used?

You are asking me to accept the fact that Homegrown generated emails. That is a leap of faith to ask me take.

I do not hold you accountable for what President Bush has done.

I have nothing to do with the past, and it is not fair that you try to involve me.

It does NOT concern me.

There are legal venues for disagreements, and this ain't one of them :-))

Now, Aly is gonna cost you 10 grand :-)

[CAHEK]

we can work an deal

do rev share 50/50

i'll do all the work and someone will collect money from me

[European Lee]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
Lee, if you read this thread I talk about 47 niches, so obviously we can target to the sponsors needs....and do the best fit.

Second, perhaps you should go over to http://www.cecash.com and read about the truckloads of money we have paid out for years to webmasters harvesting emails..

I will give you the benefit of doubt here even tho you just want to stir shit for tagline exposures.

As for the validity of the list.....this list was built, cleaned, maintained for years. It grows daily, you understand the mailing business, we are above board.

Maybe FREE was to expensive for you.

Want me to finance the free for ya? :-))

Instead of using smoke and mirrors to dodge the questions, please amswer them

Regards,

Lee

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by European Lee
Instead of using smoke and mirrors to dodge the questions, please amswer them

Regards,

Lee

Lee, where ya been? I use black and decker and hollow points.

Guarentee 6 million delivered.

I do not think you understand something here. These mailers are not something we have ever opened up to many companies.

WE use them to make the scratch, and WE are quite happy with them. If they did not produce golden how in the world could we afford to pay webmasters over the years for harvesting these?

The difference is WHO we place in these mailers since we are not obnoxious with how we do this.

Now, if a company does some business with us, which I will talk to them one on one about in email, we will place them in the mailer...

[European Lee]

Noga..

Answer the questions.

If you dont answer the questions i asked how can i make a solid business decision on whether i should utilize your mailers or not?

Of course, if you do not know the asnwers just say so, it will save us both a lot of wasted time.

Regards,

Lee

[Cash]

I'm in for it, let's talk about the details
icq 30160426

[LeeNoga]

Getting great emails, thanks! Lee be loving ya :-))

The way the mailings work is we will become your affiliate, we do the mailings....the list is estimated at around 14 million. List updated constantly.

You pay us a flat rate per sale from our list....I would consider a 50/50 if ya do a little something for me in addition....but ideally we want a flat rate, whatever you pay webmasters basically. We can work out the bottom line.

CECash is motivated to slam your servers and spend your bandwidth, we want to make the money with you.

We only have so many spots and can only romance so many companies with our mailings....so to be fair.....the companies that do some other business with me get the shot at our mailers.

Great op for a new company trying to grow and never thought they could get a shot at some business from CE.....great op for established companies wanting to ramp sales....everyone plays with CECash.

So if your wanting a shot to blow out your sales, here it is, does not make any difference how new you are building your members at your paysites.

Ya want a shot at members, email me and play ball......lets make it work, we can sort it out....make it happen:

[email protected]

[Fukeneh]

lee, send her a fucking email. jesus christ man!

[Aly-Python]

Originally posted by LeeNoga

Now, Aly is gonna cost you 10 grand :-)

Damn Lee, I don't think you need to charge him at all... Far-L's kinda cute...

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Aly-Python
Damn Lee, I don't think you need to charge him at all... Far-L's kinda cute...

*lee blushes*, dahling' you busted me again :-))

But.

If I traded a little romance with you for free that would almost constitute a marriage. I hear romance is free with that institution.

At least with 10 grand, it would place a different spin on things, don't ya think? :-))

[Far-L]

Originally posted by LeeNoga
You are asking me to accept the fact that Homegrown generated emails. That is a leap of faith to ask me take.

I do not hold you accountable for what President Bush has done.

I have nothing to do with the past, and it is not fair that you try to involve me.

It does NOT concern me.

There are legal venues for disagreements, and this ain't one of them :-))

Now, Aly is gonna cost you 10 grand :-)

I am not trying to step on your toes, Lee. I just am not good at this dancing thing.

I am not involving you in anything. I am not being unfair to ask a reasonable business related question regarding a service that you are advertising here.

Ok..? I don't care if you voted for Bush. I don't care what you did or did not do in the past. All I care about are the names Homegrown generated for that 14 million name db owned by the company that could be CE but not really CE because that CE does not exist even though you used to work for them and now do again but not really because it is not CE but a reasonable facsimile, maybe. (So on a side note... how can CE still claim such longevity if it not even really CE anymore?)

You don't have to take anything on faith. It is a well known fact that Homegrown generated names and mailed with CE.

Can you please just answer the question? What is happening with the Homegrown list?

Perhaps you could just tell me what percentage of those lists are comprised of the Homegrown names?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

I will take a guess.

Zero.


Programs are programs.

Sponsor programs are different than mailer programs.
Different business. You prolly asking the wrong department.
Consult with the legal department perhaps.
Read the fine print maybe in what ever deal ya had. I am sure you got attornies to look through it all and explaine it.

But then I am not a pro in such matters.
Say's the Cheerleader that doubles as a retired running back.

[Lace]

Mabye if you weren't so damn cocky, you might get some good business.

And your attempts to be funny did not quite work.

[European Lee]

So 6 million emails split between 47 niches, if they are comparitively split that means you are charging someone $2000 to email one niche list of 12,765 email addresses?

Hmm..

Suddenly these lists dont look all that good to me

Regards,

Lee

[Far-L]

Originally posted by AlienQ
I will take a guess.

Zero.


Programs are programs.

Sponsor programs are different than mailer programs.
Different business.

So read the fine print maybe in what ever deal ya had.

Will you please sit down in your back row seat. You are only an annoying distraction here and obviously have very little knowledge of what is being discussed here.

Excuse me... actually you could do us all a favor and explain a bit more about when a mail list is not actually a mail list.

Do you actually spend any time thinking before you post or is it just a total stream of unconsciousness?

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

How the fuck did you get rich?

Jesus, I swear the biggest fucken morons make it in this biz and it is truly befuddling. Truly amazing.

No wait...
Its a fucken miracle really.

Sorry ya are unable to differentiate different business types and how they are done.

But hey I could be wrong in thinking that an enterprise is the same entity as a shell.

[LeeNoga]

Man, the response is great.

Got one testimonial and they made 5K a week off our CEMags a year ago, and appear to want to re-ignite this setup again.

Do a little side business with me for 2 grand, and then let me romance you with our mailers.....

Lee, what question do you have that I did not answer? We can sep our mailers, we can target them to fit our partners site. If you do not make money, neither do we....we take this serious.

CE plays with everyone, we could talk and see how we could do business together....if your serious, we have gay traffic as well from our mailers.

What escapes me is why you take your questions to the thread, when we could phone call, or ICQ or email....I live in New Smyrna Beach.....:-))

If you want to do business, email me.

Lee plays with everyone, even if ya can piss me off from years past :-))

Somebody from lightspeed, gimme a phone nbr, so I can call Steve.

[email protected]

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by Far-L
ICan you please just answer the question? What is happening with the Homegrown list?

Perhaps you could just tell me what percentage of those lists are comprised of the Homegrown names?

Far, you are asking me to do something that exceeds my position in the company. How can I accomodate this request?

You are a brilliant gent, surely you can find another way besides myself to have your questions answered.

You have alternatives and remedy but I feel you lock on to me because I am the closest target.

Is that fair?

[LeeNoga]

Originally posted by European Lee
So 6 million emails split between 47 niches, if they are comparitively split that means you are charging someone $2000 to email one niche list of 12,765 email addresses?

Lee, read the thread please, at least my posts as the minimum read :-)

[Far-L]

Originally posted by AlienQ
How the fuck did you get rich?

Jesus, I swear the biggest fucken morons make it in this biz and it is truly befuddling. Truly amazing.

No wait...
Its a fucken miracle really.

Sorry ya are unable to differentiate different business types and how they are done.

But hey I could be wrong in thinking that an enterprise is the same entity as a shell.

No, you are just wrong in thinking that you have any reason at all to be in this thread and to insult me unecessarily.

I know exactly what I am talking about and you have zero clue and I urge you not to presume any further as it is just making you look uninformed and unprofessional.

BTW, there is not a single rich person in this biz that would even begin to consider me rich. In light of all your other hazing though, I will take that as a compliment to balance out the rest of your spite.

Now please go back to creating your own success and stop deriding mine.

[LeeNoga]

Lee, we will be your affiliate.....and drive TARGETTED traffic to your site from our mailers. You pay us flat fee per sale.

We are offering this alliance to those companies that do some other business with us as well....and I cannot spell this all out here or I will be violating GFY, and Lee will not disrespect Lens.

That other business costs 2K....which makes you connected to us, and because of that connection, we will share the green with you using our mailers.....we are quite content using it for ourselves, but with our friends, we share the green.....you will make that 2K back.....:-)

If you want specifics we have to talk other than this thread and take it off this board out of respect for Lens.

I would hardly call my offering suspicious via your calculations presented and insinuation when you have not taken the time to get ALL the facts in email. Everyone else has done so, but instead you opinionate based on your self chosen limited knowledge.

Information is power, come get ya some:

[email protected]