So you like Joesho huh?

[AaronM]

This is why I will never do business with him.

He continuously stabs people in the back.

J-Reel and Nasty D from Reel18 do the very same. The funny thing is that they have done business with Joesho in the past and when that deal failed, Joesho stabbed them in the back with things he told me about them. Here's the kind of businessmen the 3 of them are.

When they would get an ugly chick in, they would give her my business card and send her to me. How nice huh?

Anyway.....So Joesho is "always telling it like it is." EXCEPT when he does not some crooked shit. Example:

Joesho knew that I had been talking to Lensman about setting up the Playboy Tryout thing in Portland. He knew that I had planned to start setting things up about a month after the schools had started up again. Soooo....He contacted Lensman a week or two before that and went behind my back to set it all up.

Why did you do that Joesho?

Here's another question....How did you allow the Portland event to become such a cluster fuck by not getting a signed contract from the venue? Why did you have to scramble at the last minute and move the event to another city that is 100 miles away when you could have switched it to one of many other hotels in the area?

Oh wait......That right about when you found out that I was aware of what you were trying to pull.

I have always said that I liked you off GFY but that while on GFY you are a loose canon. At least when I go after somebody, I actually have some facts behind what I say. You sir, rarely do.

Now, go set up another failing pawn shop, shoot some more ugly chicks for your calendar, and play buddy buddy to another person so you can stab them in the back next.

Go ahead Joesho...Call me a liar.....Please.

[LadyMischief]

This should be fun.

[brand0n]

this should be good

[AndrewKanuck]

Important sig placement

[pornstar2pac]

question, why are you based in Portland? it must be tough finding hotties to shoot all the time.

[Fake Nick]

I am not even goint to bother reading that ,because you know your big ego has his own view on every situation

that being said , people please enjoy my sig

[TDF]

i wish i was as tactful as aaronm,i like to resort to physical volence

[candyflip]

JoesHo is an idiot, but I still enjoy Remote Thumbs. Boldy and Inabon rock.

[speakthetruth]

Very suprised Lenman would do any business with that openly drug addicted fool.

[brand0n]

Originally posted by speakthetruth
Very suprised Lenman would do any business with that openly drug addicted fool.

brad, go back to your own board. lens dont want you here guy, thats why you were banned.

[Basic_man]

Okay, do your business, we don't care!

[mary34d]

where's jimthefiend's input on this???

[WiredGuy]

I have to admit, I was rather upset that Joe made public the whole ordeal between myself and Grimshawn (without my consent or accurate facts I might add). That really put a hamper on my ability to collect.

WG

[.:St Ides:.]

Good questions Aaron, will he answer them, or just call you names.

This is the proving grounds of how you practice biz.

See sig!

[fris]

Originally posted by AaronM
This is why I will never do business with him.

He continuously stabs people in the back.

J-Reel and Nasty D from Reel18 do the very same. The funny thing is that they have done business with Joesho in the past and when that deal failed, Joesho stabbed them in the back with things he told me about them. Here's the kind of businessmen the 3 of them are.

When they would get an ugly chick in, they would give her my business card and send her to me. How nice huh?

Anyway.....So Joesho is "always telling it like it is." EXCEPT when he does not some crooked shit. Example:

Joesho knew that I had been talking to Lensman about setting up the Playboy Tryout thing in Portland. He knew that I had planned to start setting things up about a month after the schools had started up again. Soooo....He contacted Lensman a week or two before that and went behind my back to set it all up.

Why did you do that Joesho?

Here's another question....How did you allow the Portland event to become such a cluster fuck by not getting a signed contract from the venue? Why did you have to scramble at the last minute and move the event to another city that is 100 miles away when you could have switched it to one of many other hotels in the area?

Oh wait......That right about when you found out that I was aware of what you were trying to pull.

I have always said that I liked you off GFY but that while on GFY you are a loose canon. At least when I go after somebody, I actually have some facts behind what I say. You sir, rarely do.

Now, go set up another failing pawn shop, shoot some more ugly chicks for your calendar, and play buddy buddy to another person so you can stab them in the back next.

Go ahead Joesho...Call me a liar.....Please.

his spams on icq about gaythumbs get annoying ;(

[alexg]

i sale short sig placements

[fris]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
This should be fun.

i love caramel popcorn, why doesnt anyone fucking post that shit?

[sicone]

Originally posted by AaronM
When they would get an ugly chick in, they would give her my business card and send her to me. How nice huh?

Come on now... who here can say they have never done this to someone? Seriously or as a joke.

[boneprone]

Again.. Call me stupid, but up till yesterday I thought you and Joesho were friends..

Damn, I need to pay attention to GFY more or somethin..
(ya right)

Anyhow, I swear just a few months ago you called me and invited me to a dinner or lunch to join you and Joe..

I was thinking what the fuck? It was right around the time Joe was bashin the hell out of me on the boards.. Thought you were kinda slappin me in the face, or maybe you were just fucking around I dont know..

But it seems like just a few months ago like in August you were askin me to go out with the guy and you..

After reading the stuff yesterday and now today, im wondering if you were just fuckin with me then, or if you really were firends with em, and you just didnt care about all the public shit at the time he was throwing at me to make his name big.

Either way, up till yesterday i thought you and him were buddies.
What do I know, damn..

[speakthetruth]

Was he hawking his 4:20 $9.99 calendars at this event?

[TDF]

Originally posted by fris
i love caramel popcorn, why doesnt anyone fucking post that shit?

[sherie]

Holy, I have strayed far from the loop. Playboy Tryouts? Man alive I need to take a break sometimes.

Why would Lens go with Joe on this when you guys were talking about it? that sucks for everyone.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
Good questions Aaron, will he answer them, or just call you names.

This is the proving grounds of how you practice biz.

See sig!

He's likely to avoiud my questions and threaten me. He's also likely to start other rumors or say whatever he wants to try to discredit me and my business.

The truth is, he does not even know what kind of businesses I have going on.

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by boneprone
Again.. Call me stupid, but up till yesterday I thought you and Joesho were friends..

Damn, I need to pay attention to GFY more or somethin..
(ya right)

Anyhow, I swear just a few months ago you called me and invited me to a dinner or lunch to join you and Joe..

I was thinking what the fuck? It was right around the time Joe was bashin the hell out of me on the boards.. Thought you were kinda slappin me in the face, or maybe you were just fucking around I dont know..

But it seems like just a few months ago like in August you were askin me to go out with the guy and you..

After reading the stuff yesterday and now today, im wondering if you were just fuckin with me then, or if you really were firends with em, and you just didnt care about all the public shit at the time he was throwing at me to make his name big.

Either way, up till yesterday i thought you and him were buddies.
What do I know, damn..

focus on who's going to be the sure pick in the baseball playoffas.




we need a lock this week BP.


3 team parlay lock

[psyko514]

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I have to admit, I was rather upset that Joe made public the whole ordeal between myself and Grimshawn (without my consent or accurate facts I might add). That really put a hamper on my ability to collect.

WG

And yet he still thinks it's justified for the greater good of the adult internet community.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by sicone
Come on now... who here can say they have never done this to someone? Seriously or as a joke.

Me. I have no problems referring models to others. People, including Joesho AND reel18 have done the same for me in the past. But I have never told an ugly chick to talk to them or anybody else.

[brand0n]

Originally posted by pornstar2pac
focus on who's going to be the sure pick in the baseball playoffas.




we need a lock this week BP.


3 team parlay lock

this is a serious biz thread. could you please avoid threads like this from here out with your useless dribble? no one wants to hear that shit now, there are real issues at hand.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by boneprone
Again.. Call me stupid, but up till yesterday I thought you and Joesho were friends..

Damn, I need to pay attention to GFY more or somethin..
(ya right)

Anyhow, I swear just a few months ago you called me and invited me to a dinner or lunch to join you and Joe..

I was thinking what the fuck? It was right around the time Joe was bashin the hell out of me on the boards.. Thought you were kinda slappin me in the face, or maybe you were just fucking around I dont know..

But it seems like just a few months ago like in August you were askin me to go out with the guy and you..

After reading the stuff yesterday and now today, im wondering if you were just fuckin with me then, or if you really were firends with em, and you just didnt care about all the public shit at the time he was throwing at me to make his name big.

Either way, up till yesterday i thought you and him were buddies.
What do I know, damn..

Hell....Just a week or two ago I called him up and invited him to lunch. About an hour later, I found out what he was doing with the Playboy thing.

As I have already said....I liked him OFF of GFY.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I have to admit, I was rather upset that Joe made public the whole ordeal between myself and Grimshawn (without my consent or accurate facts I might add). That really put a hamper on my ability to collect.

WG

He's bald-faced out and out lied about me

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by fris
i love caramel popcorn, why doesnt anyone fucking post that shit?

So post some hon!

[AaronM]

Originally posted by sherie
Holy, I have strayed far from the loop. Playboy Tryouts? Man alive I need to take a break sometimes.

Why would Lens go with Joe on this when you guys were talking about it? that sucks for everyone.

Because Joesho knew when I would be contacting Lens to set it up so he went to him ahead of time and "showed more interest."

It was a snake in the grass kind of move.

[sicone]

Originally posted by AaronM
Me. I have no problems referring models to others. People, including Joesho AND reel18 have done the same for me in the past. But I have never told an ugly chick to talk to them or anybody else.

I was meaning more like at a bar when a ugly girl is talking to you, giving her a friends name and number, letting her think it was you, so she can call to hook up later.

Didn't really mean with business, my bad for not being clear

[pornstar2pac]

Originally posted by brand0n
this is a serious biz thread. could you please avoid threads like this from here out with your useless dribble? no one wants to hear that shit now, there are real issues at hand.

yes sir. I'll make note of what you said.







why are you in this thread if it's a serious biz thread?

[brand0n]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
He's bald-faced out and out lied about me

not trying to rehash anything from the past, but when did that happen?

[StuartD]

Originally posted by WiredGuy
I have to admit, I was rather upset that Joe made public the whole ordeal between myself and Grimshawn (without my consent or accurate facts I might add). That really put a hamper on my ability to collect.

WG

He has this overwhelming desire to stick his nose into other people's affairs.... to use them and their names to further himself... such as he did with Serge and then with Boneprone.

He thinks this makes him seem big and important. He's not.

He makes friends by giving away the calendars that he can't sell. Why do most of you think that he's so willing to send you 5? 10? A box? He can't sell the damn things!

Anyway... he likes to take things he's found out... that he thinks that no one else knows and be the one to "release" it to the open.. makes him feel important, like he's in the know... like he can "tell it like it is"... problem is, this is a small industry and chances are, everyone knew before him.

He's really very pathetic... a nice guy, seemingly... enough to get some people to say he's great and all... but truth be told, he's an ill tempered little boy who likes to fight anyone that says something he doesn't like... and he'll gladly stab anyone in the back and do what ever it takes to make people like him.. or to feel important.

That kind of person is a very scary person to ever try to do any kind of business with.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by brand0n
not trying to rehash anything from the past, but when did that happen?

oh... about three months or so ago? It was amusing and inspired my creativity and forced me to document my humble abode. :P

[AaronM]

Originally posted by LadyMischief
He's bald-faced out and out lied about me

How so?

Let's hear it.

Go ahead and post your Joesho stories here...He's gonna take the brunt of it out on me this way. Less heat for you.

[LadyMischief]

Originally posted by AaronM
How so?

Let's hear it.

Go ahead and post your Joesho stories here...He's gonna take the brunt of it out on me this way. Less heat for you.

I'll find the threads, they're worth a chuckle or two

[AaronM]

Originally posted by MaskedMan
He has this overwhelming desire to stick his nose into other people's affairs.... to use them and their names to further himself... such as he did with Serge and then with Boneprone.

He thinks this makes him seem big and important. He's not.

He makes friends by giving away the calendars that he can't sell. Why do most of you think that he's so willing to send you 5? 10? A box? He can't sell the damn things!

Anyway... he likes to take things he's found out... that he thinks that no one else knows and be the one to "release" it to the open.. makes him feel important, like he's in the know... like he can "tell it like it is"... problem is, this is a small industry and chances are, everyone knew before him.

He's really very pathetic... a nice guy, seemingly... enough to get some people to say he's great and all... but truth be told, he's an ill tempered little boy who likes to fight anyone that says something he doesn't like... and he'll gladly stab anyone in the back and do what ever it takes to make people like him.. or to feel important.

That kind of person is a very scary person to ever try to do any kind of business with.

Very well said. You hit the nail on the head with each point there.

[boneprone]

As for J-reel and Nasty D, I have gotten to know em both real or should I say "reel" well in the past few months and they are good people.. Real Good people.

I dont know Joesho from my ass and never met him or made the effort to meet him. In fact up until lately Ive made the efforts not to meet him and stay clear.. But it seems like Joesho really is coming around. Making a name for himself, (hopefully not at your expense, again I havent been following the board drama as of late) and adapting better to things in the biz.

He's become nice and more professional towards me, inviting me to join him for social events, as well as making an effort to patch things up between him and me. In the last few months Ive really started to see Joe in a different light.

Am I ready to involve myself socially with the guy yet? Probably not. But am I willing to do biz with this new Joesho? Probably.
And so is Lensman as it seems.. Kinda shocked me.

Shocking that is to say the least that Joesho is evolving.

ANyhow the beef you and him have for one another is new to me. Up till yesterday I thought you were buddies. Buddies with the guy who was publically attacking me and making a name for himself at my expense.

Im gunna stay out of this one. The beef between Joe and I was ugly and drawn out. Now its over and he's made the effort to put it behind em and so am I.

But this new beef with you and him is intresting as I find out more and more.. Still im not sure whats causing it, but its gotten me to tune back into GFY, something thats lost my intrest for months now.

[AaronM]

Well....I'm gonna go back to work now.

I have sent a few links to Joesho so I am sure that he will reply as soon as he can dig something out of his cloudy memory bank to attack me with.

[AaronM]

Originally posted by boneprone
As for J-reel and Nasty D, I have gotten to know em both real or should I say "reel" well in the past few months and they are good people.. Real Good people.

I dont know Joesho from my ass and never met him or made the effort to meet him. In fact up until lately Ive made the efforts not to meet him and stay clear.. But it seems like Joesho really is coming around. Making a name for himself, (hopefully not at your expense, again I havent been following the board drama as of late) and adapting better to things in the biz.

He's become nice and more professional towards me, inviting me to join him for social events, as well as making an effort to patch things up between him and me. In the last few months Ive really started to see Joe in a different light.

Am I ready to involve myself socially with the guy yet? Probably not. But am I willing to do biz with this new Joesho? Probably.
And so is Lensman as it seems.. Kinda shocked me.

Shocking that is to say the least that Joesho is evolving.

ANyhow the beef you and him have for one another is new to me. Up till yesterday I thought you were buddies. Buddies with the guy who was publically attacking me and making a name for himself at my expense.

Im gunna stay out of this one. The beef between Joe and I was ugly and drawn out. Now its over and he's made the effort to put it behind em and so am I.

But this new beef with you and him is intresting as I find out more and more.. Still im not sure whats causing it, but its gotten me to tune back into GFY, something thats lost my intrest for months now.

3 things.


1: A year or two ago, J-Reel accidentally called me from his cell phone. I listened to their conversations for several minutes while he and Nasty D told Joesho a few bullshit things about me. Then I hung up and called him back to confront him about it. He denied everything but later, Joesho told me that the look on his face was priceless.

2: The Reel18 site had been running for 2 or 3 years and not making ANY money. I offered to connect them with either Lightspeed or PIBCash. The dela was that I would be cut in for a small percentage for putting them together. Well, they made the right decision and went with Lightspeed but my percentage was conveniently left out of the deal. Yeh, Real nice guys.

3: Joesho told me in person that you and him got along fine and that it was all for show. That's why I invited you out.

[Manowar]

Originally posted by speakthetruth
Very suprised Lenman would do any business with that openly drug addicted fool.

Bradshaw!

[NinjaSteve]

Originally posted by AaronM

When they would get an ugly chick in, they would give her my business card and send her to me. How nice huh?

hahaha, okay that's kind of funny (but only if you are friends)

Originally posted by toodamnfli
i wish i was as tactful as aaronm,i like to resort to physical volence

[Anthony_A]

Originally posted by toodamnfli
i wish i was as tactful as aaronm,i like to resort to physical volence

[Rick Latona]

Originally posted by brand0n
brad, go back to your own board. lens dont want you here guy, thats why you were banned.

His last few posts have also confirmed it with me that it is indeed Brad.

[LadyMischief]

are you referring to the one that the family money bought for you guys? how does selling a piec of property that was in you family for ages, and quite valuable, and MOmmy7 and daddy signing the note = any success by you?

it was a good thing of the granparents to do bu getting that house for you and you should thank them everynight

__________________

I thought that one was kind of amusing... I am not going to fight with him, but the fact is he doesn't always have all the facts. Not sure how he pulls some of this shit out of his ass, but it's all up in there somewhere

[emthree]

I dont even know the fucker
but from reading the boards lately, I can see the type of person he is. I also remember all the "bashing" from a while back.

Shitty person to do buisness with.

[Joesho]

try to stick to one thread would ya superman?

here is my response to your ridiculous drivel in the other thread...

Originally posted by Joesho
AaronM:
" Hey man.....The guy is one of the biggest fucking idiots of all time on GFY. He and his two buddies from reel18 have stabbed me in the back multiple times over the years. All three of them are clueless abut this biz and they have no need to know what all I have going on."


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1.) biggest idiot of ALL TIME on GFY? wow thanks for the compliment, considering you always say what is done and said here is not real anyway ( is that not always your answear when people tell you what a dickhead you are?)

2.) I have not been around long enough for your claim of multiple "stab you in the back attempts over the YEARS" like you claim, again you are factually inacurate with your comments. ( can you give us an example of this ?)

3.) how is making a wise business decision to not have someone as egotistical, and drama oriented ( and a PROVEN backstabber) as you, involved in an event where profesionalism, and tact are necassary (traits you do not possess) considered stabbing someone in the back? a decision was made, ( and it was a wise one as is evidenced by you proven actions, remember actions speak louder than words to most professional people)
you lie to people and carry an unauthorized stamp of playboy's logo on your business card and use that when you recruit locally ( how do you think playboy would feel about that? (I can call them and ask them for you if you would like ) knowing you are misrepresinting their brand when you try to go get girls?) then you even like to throw your adult.com e-mail adress out there, like you actually are some kind of boss on adult.com to anybody that you think will believe it in order to increase your hype... ( try using facts sometime it works) I would venture whatever it is that" you have going on" it is not based in facts ( need i remind you of how much you defended Rodney and PIB in the begining, until you KNEW that there was proof against them? then instead of coming out and doing the right things, you secretly tried to hold on, until you were turned away. then you have unsuccessfully tried to challenge them? birds of a feather as the saying goes)

4.) as far as www.reel18.com guys being cluless, I would like to think that a company as strong as lightspeed ( the same lightspeed that hired and fired you in the same day LOL) knows a little more about successful online ventures than you do...again call me crazy just an observation LOL so I am sure since they have been together for over a year now somebody in the group knows something eh?

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AaronM:
" Keep in mind that those comments came from the very guy who is always bragging that he "tells it like it is" and "will go after anybody any time." And yet...This same guy was so much of a fucking pussy that he went behind my back to set up the Playboy thing then invited 2 people (Reel18) who he always talks shit about behind their backs........."

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oh so since a decision was made, and you were not involved,( who are you saying went behind your back? me?) since when did I take over Adult.com or playboy? and start making the decisions for them as far as personell goes? ( are you accusing someone other than me? if so be specific in your accusation would ya?) and out of respect for the people and company holding this event. I do not create any unecassy drama, that is being a pussy? I would think that it is being a smart businessman. Deals are made on abilities to complete the task at hand, and are in no way some kind of right ( what do you think this is a union? and seniority is some kind of reward?) WRONG this business is all about who can get the job done the best period! ( as you so often tell people too bad life was not fair to you right?) My relationship with the others you have mentioned should be crystal clear... they were there you were not. and simple fact is, it is you that talks behind peopls back on regular occassions, and anyone who has ever had a conversation knows this. they may be scared that you will trash them on a board like you so oftent do, but alas I am not, as i know that strength on a board is not as important as strength in the field. most people know your true colors Aaron, that is why you are still not successful after being around for three years.... trust me if Iam not making at least 300K a year in year number three. I will be on to something else... I do not need to try to make friends and meet girls so bad, that I will resort to living in an apartment that I share my studio space out of like you do, in a small redneck side of town that is not a well off area by any means LOL and then trying to convince everyone I am some kind of pimp LOL
I also do like to tell it like it is, and I use my real name to do so unlike you with all your fake nics and bullshit made up drama. why not share your true name and real identity ?eh Matt rhinehart of gresham Oregon? this would make more sence unless you are afraid to tell people who you really are would it not? and if so why are you so scared for them to know your true identity?

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AaronM:
" He is captain of all that is ignorant around this place and likes to shoot his mouth off when he hears any sort of rumor whether it has any truth to it or not."

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LOL like I said anyone that has ever known you for over 5 mins. knows what you are about, and rumors and inuendo, and at times straight out lies are all you have in your arsenal. How many people have you guaranteed that you would " ruin" if they did not bow down to you? how many have you actually been able to do that too? LOL

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AaronM:

"Here's another reason he can not be trusted.......They day that I asked him in person to back off you. I told him some info in confidence. He assured me that he would never bring it up again. Now it is his main attack against you."

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so this coming from a guy that even attacks a woman that has allegedly lost her child.... wow and a guy that always goes around trying to get "dirt" on people so he can use it on them LOL .. so if you are referring to the time you came by my office and ask me to understand that stuart was mentally sick and going through problems, and that you as his "best friend" were concerned that I might push him over the edge ( with my WORDS ON A MESSAGE BOARD , that you and him so adamantly say are not important to them LOL )and he would actually kill himself. as the time I betrayed a confidence...hmmm you were his friend and you came to a known adversary of his to share an intimate personal detail and I am the one that is not to be trusted with secrets? LOL again!!! but then in the same breath you say I am a " pussy" for keeping a business secret confidential? hmmm I know I am an idiot but please explain that to me a little slower would ya? LOL
he was/is continually trys to stalk me and say things that are factually inaccurate. I defend myself, unlike you who trys to attack at first chance, I lay back and wait.... and facts be known, I did honor your request to not pick on the poor mentally unstable stuart, and then yet again he trys to attack me when he in fact has never even met me, and thinks he knows about me from you...... irony at it's finest, I am glad I do not have friends that I can trust with personal ilness issues . as much as stuart trusted you...

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AaronM:

" Go ahead with and use my name to build yourself up a little more. That seems to be your style as well as the theme of this week. For the most part, I will either laugh or ignore your stupidity while you post what you THINK you know about me."

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is not the point of this thing your delussion that I need you in some way to get known?, me using your name LOL but the fact that I do not use your name, or never will cause I believe it is more of a negative than a positive? I do not recall starting any thread ever by "using you name" in fact the only time I even come in your thread is when I have had enough of watching you pick on people that you percieve are weeker than you.... I am glad you think I am going nowhere cause that means I am successful at keeping you out of my business, no matter how hard you try to dig, and no matter who you ask about me for information in your attempts to try to cause useless bullshit, instead of actually working on meanigful projects. it tells me I am doing something right... as the saying goes, a man can be judged by the enmies he has, as well as the company he keeps......

[AaronM]

Originally posted by AaronM
As expected...Everything you have has to say is horeshit and or misinformed information.

This is the only part I feel any need to reply to.

I do have permission to use any and all logos that are on my recruiting cards. My adult.com email addy is also on those same cards and is authorized.

Is there any particular reason that you are trying to ruin my relationship with those companies?

I see no need to further assist you with your childish game. You started this by stabbing me in the back and you, me, and everybody else involved knows it.

I'm done replying to you. In this thread and any others.

And that's that.