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Old 10-06-2004, 04:41 AM   #1
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A letter from Bagdad

Farnaz Fassihi, a Wall Street Journal reporter, sent this report as an e-mail to friends, Thursday 30 September 2004

Fassihi traveled to Afghanistan to cover the war against the Taliban. Being a foreign correspondent in Baghdad these days is like being under virtual house arrest. Forget about the reasons that lured me to this job: a chance to see the world, explore the exotic, meet new people in far away lands, discover their ways and tell stories that could make a difference.

Little by little, day-by-day, being based in Iraq has defied all those reasons. I am house bound. I leave when I have a very good reason to and a scheduled interview. I avoid going to people's homes and never walk in the streets. I can't go grocery shopping any more, can't eat in restaurants, can't strike a conversation with strangers, can't look for stories, can't drive in any thing but a full armored car, can't go to scenes of breaking news stories, can't be stuck in traffic, can't speak English outside, can't take a road trip, can't say I'm an American, can't linger at checkpoints, can't be curious about what people are saying, doing, feeling. And can't and can't. There has been one too many close calls, including a car bomb so near our house that it blew out all the windows. So now my most pressing concern every day is not to write a kick-ass story but to stay alive and make sure our Iraqi employees stay alive. In Baghdad I am a security personnel first, a reporter second.

It's hard to pinpoint when the 'turning point' exactly began. Was it April when the Fallujah fell out of the grasp of the Americans? Was it when Moqtada and Jish Mahdi declared war on the U.S. military? Was it when Sadr City, home to ten percent of Iraq's population, became a nightly battlefield for the Americans? Or was it when the insurgency began spreading from isolated pockets in the Sunni triangle to include most of Iraq? Despite President Bush's rosy assessments, Iraq remains a disaster. If under Saddam it was a 'potential' threat, under the Americans it has been transformed to 'imminent and active threat,' a foreign policy failure bound to haunt the United States for decades to come.

Iraqis like to call this mess 'the situation.' When asked 'how are thing?' they reply: 'the situation is very bad."

What they mean by situation is this: the Iraqi government doesn't control most Iraqi cities, there are several car bombs going off each day around the country killing and injuring scores of innocent people, the country's roads are becoming impassable and littered by hundreds of landmines and explosive devices aimed to kill American soldiers, there are assassinations, kidnappings and beheadings. The situation, basically, means a raging barbaric guerilla war. In four days, 110 people died and over 300 got injured in Baghdad alone. The numbers are so shocking that the ministry of health -- which was attempting an exercise of public transparency by releasing the numbers -- has now stopped disclosing them.

Insurgents now attack Americans 87 times a day.

A friend drove thru the Shiite slum of Sadr City yesterday. He said young men were openly placing improvised explosive devices into the ground. They melt a shallow hole into the asphalt, dig the explosive, cover it with dirt and put an old tire or plastic can over it to signal to the locals this is booby-trapped. He said on the main roads of Sadr City, there were a dozen landmines per every ten yards. His car snaked and swirled to avoid driving over them. Behind the walls sits an angry Iraqi ready to detonate them as soon as an American convoy gets near. This is in Shiite land, the population that was supposed to love America for liberating Iraq.

For journalists the significant turning point came with the wave of abduction and kidnappings. Only two weeks ago we felt safe around Baghdad because foreigners were being abducted on the roads and highways between towns. Then came a frantic phone call from a journalist female friend at 11 p.m. telling me two Italian women had been abducted from their homes in broad daylight. Then the two Americans, who got beheaded this week and the Brit, were abducted from their homes in a residential neighborhood. They were supplying the entire block with round the clock electricity from their generator to win friends. The abductors grabbed one of them at 6 a.m. when he came out to switch on the generator; his beheaded body was thrown back near the neighborhoods.


The insurgency, we are told, is rampant with no signs of calming down. If any thing, it is growing stronger, organized and more sophisticated every day. The various elements within it-baathists, criminals, nationalists and Al Qaeda-are cooperating and coordinating.

I went to an emergency meeting for foreign correspondents with the military and embassy to discuss the kidnappings. We were somberly told our fate would largely depend on where we were in the kidnapping chain once it was determined we were missing. Here is how it goes: criminal gangs grab you and sell you up to Baathists in Fallujah, who will in turn sell you to Al Qaeda. In turn, cash and weapons flow the other way from Al Qaeda to the Baathisst to the criminals. My friend Georges, the French journalist snatched on the road to Najaf, has been missing for a month with no word on release or whether he is still alive.

America's last hope for a quick exit? The Iraqi police and National Guard units we are spending billions of dollars to train. The cops are being murdered by the dozens every day-over 700 to date -- and the insurgents are infiltrating their ranks. The problem is so serious that the U.S. military has allocated $6 million dollars to buy out 30,000 cops they just trained to get rid of them quietly.

As for reconstruction: firstly it's so unsafe for foreigners to operate that almost all projects have come to a halt. After two years, of the $18 billion Congress appropriated for Iraq reconstruction only about $1 billion or so has been spent and a chuck has now been reallocated for improving security, a sign of just how bad things are going here.

Oil dreams? Insurgents disrupt oil flow routinely as a result of sabotage and oil prices have hit record high of $49 a barrel. Who did this war exactly benefit? Was it worth it? Are we safer because Saddam is holed up and Al Qaeda is running around in Iraq?

Iraqis say that thanks to America they got freedom in exchange for insecurity. Guess what? They say they'd take security over freedom any day, even if it means having a dictator ruler.

I heard an educated Iraqi say today that if Saddam Hussein were allowed to run for elections he would get the majority of the vote. This is truly sad.

Then I went to see an Iraqi scholar this week to talk to him about elections here. He has been trying to educate the public on the importance of voting. He said, "President Bush wanted to turn Iraq into a democracy that would be an example for the Middle East. Forget about democracy, forget about being a model for the region, we have to salvage Iraq before all is lost."

One could argue that Iraq is already lost beyond salvation. For those of us on the ground it's hard to imagine what if any thing could salvage it from its violent downward spiral. The genie of terrorism, chaos and mayhem has been unleashed onto this country as a result of American mistakes and it can't be put back into a bottle.

The Iraqi government is talking about having elections in three months while half of the country remains a 'no go zone'-out of the hands of the government and the Americans and out of reach of journalists. In the other half, the disenchanted population is too terrified to show up at polling stations. The Sunnis have already said they'd boycott elections, leaving the stage open for polarized government of Kurds and Shiites that will not be deemed as legitimate and will most certainly lead to civil war.

I asked a 28-year-old engineer if he and his family would participate in the Iraqi elections since it was the first time Iraqis could to some degree elect a leadership. His response summed it all: "Go and vote and risk being blown into pieces or followed by the insurgents and murdered for cooperating with the Americans? For what? To practice democracy? Are you joking?"

By Farnaz Fassihi
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Old 10-06-2004, 04:49 AM   #2
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You expect us to read all that shizer?
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:05 AM   #4
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i read it all you lazy fuck.
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:07 AM   #5
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I read some of it, man that sucks, guess he ain't doing anything he thought he would be doing.
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:09 AM   #6
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awesome read. Thank you for sharing, it makes me contemplative.
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Old 10-06-2004, 05:12 AM   #7
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Iraqis say that thanks to America they got freedom in exchange for insecurity. Guess what? They say they'd take security over freedom any day, even if it means having a dictator ruler.

I heard an educated Iraqi say today that if Saddam Hussein were allowed to run for elections he would get the majority of the vote. This is truly sad.
Interesting comments there.


Now read it mad-lib style with the opposites on the key words.....


Americans say that thanks to Iraq they got security in exchange for freedom. Guess what? They say they'd take freedom over security any day, even if it means electing a new president.

I heard an educated American say today that if Bush were allowed to run for elections he would get the majority of the vote. This is truly sad.



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Old 10-06-2004, 07:52 AM   #8
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awesome read. Thank you for sharing, it makes me contemplative.
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:50 AM   #9
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You expect us to read all that shizer?
I read it all and am glad it was posted... if you look around you can probably find a "would you hit it" thread more appropriate to your attention span
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Old 10-06-2004, 08:56 AM   #10
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Good read.

I didn't like this part:
the U.S. military has allocated $6 million dollars to buy out 30,000 cops they just trained to get rid of them quietly.

makes me kinda pissed off...
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Old 10-06-2004, 10:13 AM   #11
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You expect us to read all that shizer?
Her is a summary:

1) The america invasion of Iraq was a major fuckup.

2) Allowed to run, Saddan Hussain would win the election.
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Her is a summary:

1) The america invasion of Iraq was a major fuckup.

2) Allowed to run, Saddan Hussain would win the election.
Need I say more ?
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awesome, was long but well worth it.
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Old 10-06-2004, 12:50 PM   #15
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I read it all and am glad it was posted... if you look around you can probably find a "would you hit it" thread more appropriate to your attention span

read it all and absolutely agree with this....
thank's for the thread
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I read most of it.
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This bullshit war is the first great clusterfuck of the 21st century.

Thanks Mr. Bush! May you get everything you so greatly deserve.
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Some moron though he could invade a foriegn country on the thinnest of reasons and the people there would welcome the invaders with open arms and throw away there beliefs, culture and system in favour of the invaders beliefs, culture and system.

This moron is now telling other morons that all is well and it will work out in the end.

This moron is Bush.

Would you allow Bush to post TGP pages for you?
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This moron is Bush.

Would you allow Bush to post TGP pages for you?
Yes.

He would be so busy all day he'd have no time for politics anymore.

Would save the world.
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Wow..

cant find read like that in today's propaganda...

Thanks!
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Old 10-08-2004, 09:04 AM   #25
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It's a great read indeed, you could put it on your pages and change the public view regarding this stupid war.

Remember the Paul Hardcastle song "19" ?


In 1965 Vietnam seemed like just another foreign war, but it wasn't.
It was different in many ways, as so were tose that did the fighting.
In World War II the average age of the combat soldier was 26...
In Vietnam he was 19.

(TV announcer's voice)
The shooting and fighting of the past two weeks continued today
25 miles west of Saigon
I really wasn't sure what was going on (Vet's Voice)

In Vietnam the combat soldier typicaly served a twelve month tour of duty but was exposed to hostile fire almost everyday

Hundreds of Thousands of men who saw heavy combat in Vietnam were arrested since discharge

Their arrest rate is almost twice that of non-veterans of the same age.
There are no accurate figures of how many of these men have been incarcerated.
But, a Veterans Administration study concludes that the greater of Vets exposure to combat could more likely affect his chances of being arrested or convicted.

This is one legacy of the Vietnam War
(Singing Girls)
All those who remember the war
They won't forget what they've seen..
Destruction of men in their prime
whose average was 19

Destruction

War, War
After World War II the Men came home together on troop ships, but the Vietnam Vet often arrived home within 48 hours of jungle combat

Perhaps the most dramatic difference between World War II and VietNam was coming home.. .none of them received a hero's welcome
None of them received a heroes welcome, none of them, none of them

None of them received a hero's welcome
None of them received a hero's welcome

According to a Veteran's Administration study

Half of the Vietnam combat veterans suffered from what Psychiatrists call Post-Traumatic-Stress-Disorder

Many vets complain of alienation, rage, or guilt

Some succumb to suicidal thoughts

Eight to Ten years after coming home almost eight-hundred-thousand men are
still fighting the VietNam War
(Singing Girls)
Destruction

19,19,19,19

(Soldiers Voice)
When we came back it was different.. Everybody wants to know "How'd it happenned to those guys over there
There's gotta be something wrong somewhere
We did what we had to do
There's gotta be something wrong somewhere
People wanted us to be ashamed of what it made us
Dad had no idea what he went to fight and he is now
All we want to do is come home
What did we do it for
All we want to do is come home
Was it worth it?
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