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KRL · 10-06-2004, 04:10 PM

There's always some else's life that's harder.

http://www.pbase.com/maciekda/stungmeanchey&page=all

KittyLix · 10-06-2004, 04:12 PM

NinjaSteve · 10-06-2004, 04:12 PM

Amazing. Look how huge that landfill is! That would suck to live there or even work there.

flashfire · 10-06-2004, 04:12 PM

make you think....we're all pretty lucky

NinjaSteve · 10-06-2004, 04:14 PM

Why do they work there? What the hell do you do when you work at a garbage dump?

lagwagon · 10-06-2004, 04:14 PM

ya america rules, even if your poor you have a roof over your head and you have tv with a vcr.

Libertine · 10-06-2004, 04:14 PM

Stuff like that really makes me want to go out and make a difference in the world...

Maybe I'll buy a few of those Cambodian children to do my housekeeping.

NinjaSteve · 10-06-2004, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by lagwagon
ya america rules, even if your poor you have a roof over your head and you have tv with a vcr.

and cheese! don't forget gov. cheese!

Irrum · 10-06-2004, 04:16 PM

That does suck, we should consider ourselves lucky, our version of poor is middle class for them

lb_vee · 10-06-2004, 04:17 PM

KRL · 10-06-2004, 04:18 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Stuff like that really makes me want to go out and make a difference in the world...
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We all live sooooooooooo well in this country its easy to forget how awful some people's lives are in other parts of the world with less fortunate circumstances.

More Booze · 10-06-2004, 04:20 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Why do they work there? What the hell do you do when you work at a garbage dump?

heh, come on, are you serious?

dready · 10-06-2004, 04:21 PM

Nice to get a reality check now & then... good post man.

Rankings · 10-06-2004, 04:22 PM

good way to keep things in perspective

Libertine · 10-06-2004, 04:23 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
We all live sooooooooooo well in this country its easy to forget how awful some people's lives are in other parts of the world with less fortunate circumstances.

I was actually making a tasteless joke.

I don't think it's really all that easy to forget how people's lives in some areas of the world are though.

teleblade69 · 10-06-2004, 04:24 PM

fucking sad man

tb

KRL · 10-06-2004, 04:25 PM

The part that kills me is these children are so young. My lord imagine the potentially harmful, infectious, dangerous and toxic stuff that is in this landfill.

They probably don't even have shoes on.

There is no excuse that we can't find solutions for places and people so impoverished.

No excuse at all with all the wealth and technology on this planet.

infectd · 10-06-2004, 04:27 PM

Damn, I wouldnt want to even make my garbage be garbage there.

More Booze · 10-06-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
I was actually making a tasteless joke.

I don't think it's really all that easy to forget how people's lives in some areas of the world are though.

oh man.. I hate to see children like this. Its just so sad.

KRL · 10-06-2004, 04:28 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
I don't think it's really all that easy to forget how people's lives in some areas of the world are though.

At that point I doubt you are even cabpable of feeling hunger any longer.

I've posted the stats before, but for anyone who hasn't seen them.

40,000 Children die every single day globally from hunger.

14.6 Million each year.

BRISK · 10-06-2004, 04:42 PM

It is good to have a reality check every once in a while.

I recently watched a documentary that showed the lives of these people.

Children are born on the garbage dump. They live there all their life searching the garbage for scap metal and plastic to sell just so they can buy enough food to live for another day of doing exactly the same thing all day long. They have horrible infections and diseases all their life because of the environment they live in, and eventually they die (on the garbage dump).

stocktrader23 · 10-06-2004, 04:50 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
At that point I doubt you are even cabpable of feeling hunger any longer.

I've posted the stats before, but for anyone who hasn't seen them.

40,000 Children die every single day globally from hunger.

14.6 Million each year.

Yes it's very sad. My question is what would happen if all these kids somehow lived? That's a lot of extra mouths to feed down the road. They need to go in and castrate the people producing children in these invironments.

Rich · 10-06-2004, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Yes it's very sad. My question is what would happen if all these kids somehow lived? That's a lot of extra mouths to feed down the road. They need to go in and castrate the people producing children in these invironments.

great solution

SilverTab · 10-06-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by NinjaSteve
Why do they work there? What the hell do you do when you work at a garbage dump?

I guess they try to find shit to sell...or eat....!

stocktrader23 · 10-06-2004, 05:00 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
great solution

Doh you quoted a misspell!

BRISK · 10-06-2004, 05:04 PM

The population of India is 1.065 Billion people, and it is growing by 15.33 million people a year. That's about 42,000 people a day.

Amazing

KRL · 10-06-2004, 05:21 PM

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Originally posted by BRISK
The population of India is 1.065 Billion people, and it is growing by 15.33 million people a year. That's about 42,000 people a day.

Amazing

Eventually, unless we pull off some real good technology advances in the production of food and water, the wars of the future are going to be fought over these two resources we can't live without.

There simply won't be enough fish and animals left to eat at a certain breaking point. Not enough vegetation and fruit because there are only so many places that can produce good crops.

India is expected to be at 2 Billion by 2050. Their water tables are dropping 3 meters per year. Eventually you reach a point where there is not enough water for irrigation and drinking water.

And what about waste and trash disposal. Where's it all going?

BRISK · 10-06-2004, 05:27 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Eventually, unless we pull off some real good technology advances in the production of food and water, the wars of the future are going to be fought over these two resources we can't live without.

There simply won't be enough fish and animals left to eat at a certain breaking point. Not enough vegetation and fruit because there are only so many places that can produce good crops.

India is expected to be at 2 Billion by 2050. Their water tables are dropping 3 meters per year. Eventually you reach a point where there is not enough water for irrigation and drinking water.

And what about waste and trash disposal. Where's it all going?

I don't know how India manages today. I can't understand how it can continue to support as many people as it does. Even though most live in complete poverty, they're still existing somehow. And tomorrow there will be another 42,000, and the next day, and the next day.

EZRhino · 10-06-2004, 05:29 PM

FlyingIguana · 10-06-2004, 05:29 PM

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Originally posted by Rich
great solution

it would work. they don't want to use condoms and keep pumping out kids who die cuss they can't feed them. its bullshit.

FlyingIguana · 10-06-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
Eventually, unless we pull off some real good technology advances in the production of food and water, the wars of the future are going to be fought over these two resources we can't live without.

There simply won't be enough fish and animals left to eat at a certain breaking point. Not enough vegetation and fruit because there are only so many places that can produce good crops.

India is expected to be at 2 Billion by 2050. Their water tables are dropping 3 meters per year. Eventually you reach a point where there is not enough water for irrigation and drinking water.

And what about waste and trash disposal. Where's it all going?

if an ice age hits(either from a nuclear winter or some major volcanic eruptions) then food would be at a huge premium.

Libertine · 10-06-2004, 05:31 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
Yes it's very sad. My question is what would happen if all these kids somehow lived? That's a lot of extra mouths to feed down the road. They need to go in and castrate the people producing children in these invironments.

Hunger is actually generally not a problem of overpopulation, but of poverty.

Surviving insufficient dietary energy intakes requires reducing physical activity, which causes workers in third world countries to be less productive. Many studies have been done proving that supplementary food has a significant positive effect on the productivity of poor workers in developing countries. That's one way hunger has a really big negative effect economic effect.

Another thing hunger does is hinder the development of long term business projects. People who are suffering from hunger simply do not have the opportunity to create the long term projects that are essential to the economy because they are too busy finding something to eat right now.

Yet another negative effect of hunger on the economy is the way it influences the development in children. Undernutrition impairs physical growth and inhibits mental development in children. On the long term, this robs the economy of healthy workers. Ofcourse, children starving to death does that in an even worse way... the UN estimates that the economic loss in labour caused by children starving to death in the third world adds up to about 16 billion a year. For reference, it is estimated that eradicating world hunger by 2030 would cost $6 billion a year, or slightly over 50 cents per month per person in the western world.

The only way to end hunger is to end poverty, and one of the main factors causing poverty is hunger. "Too many mouths to feed" is not the problem.

quiet · 10-06-2004, 05:34 PM

crop dusters filled with sterilization chemicals.

KRL · 10-06-2004, 05:36 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Hunger is actually generally not a problem of overpopulation, but of poverty.

Surviving insufficient dietary energy intakes requires reducing physical activity, which causes workers in third world countries to be less productive. Many studies have been done proving that supplementary food has a significant positive effect on the productivity of poor workers in developing countries. That's one way hunger has a really big negative effect economic effect.

Another thing hunger does is hinder the development of long term business projects. People who are suffering from hunger simply do not have the opportunity to create the long term projects that are essential to the economy because they are too busy finding something to eat right now.

Yet another negative effect of hunger on the economy is the way it influences the development in children. Undernutrition impairs physical growth and inhibits mental development in children. On the long term, this robs the economy of healthy workers. Ofcourse, children starving to death does that in an even worse way... the UN estimates that the economic loss in labour caused by children starving to death in the third world adds up to about 16 billion a year. For reference, it is estimated that eradicating world hunger by 2030 would cost $6 billion a year, or slightly over 50 cents per month per person in the western world.

The only way to end hunger is to end poverty, and one of the main factors causing poverty is hunger. "Too many mouths to feed" is not the problem.

Very keen insight to the core of the problem.

stocktrader23 · 10-06-2004, 05:36 PM

No, but them feeding themselves would be a good start. They ever heard of a garden?

KRL · 10-06-2004, 05:42 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
No, but them feeding themselves would be a good start. They ever heard of a garden?

Most places with massive amounts of people in this condition are areas without good arid land for food and crop production.

You can't grow a garden in a desert. Unless you have some modern technology in place which none of these 3rd world countries gets adequate access to.

Libertine · 10-06-2004, 05:45 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
No, but them feeding themselves would be a good start. They ever heard of a garden?

Most of the people suffering from hunger do not live in rural areas. The famines you see on the news every once in a while are actually only a really small part of the problem, however horrible they may be. (and even in the rural areas, money is needed for irrigation, to import/stockpile food for periods of drought, or even to create the infrastructure necessary to successfully distribute food)

Now, I'm sure that you are intelligent enough to not actually believe that everybody just "getting a garden" would solve the problem.

Screaming · 10-06-2004, 05:47 PM

horrible way to live

Peaches · 10-06-2004, 05:51 PM

We should send that link to the people in the US getting welfare, food stamps, WIC, free housing, etc. whenever they start bitching the US doesn't take care of its citizens.

TweetyBird · 10-06-2004, 05:53 PM

not kewl indeed

sexeducation · 10-06-2004, 05:56 PM

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Originally posted by KRL
There's always some else's life that's harder.

http://www.pbase.com/maciekda/stungmeanchey&page=all

Awesome awesome graphics ...
that's what I am looking for.

However, they are NOT 2257 compliant and therefore I can not use them on an Adult ONLY website????

emthree · 10-06-2004, 06:02 PM

This is really just a way of life for these people. I'm sure it bothers them, but what else would they be doing without that "job"?

We all see it as sad, since we're in a better position.

stocktrader23 · 10-06-2004, 06:02 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Most of the people suffering from hunger do not live in rural areas. The famines you see on the news every once in a while are actually only a really small part of the problem, however horrible they may be. (and even in the rural areas, money is needed for irrigation, to import/stockpile food for periods of drought, or even to create the infrastructure necessary to successfully distribute food)

Now, I'm sure that you are intelligent enough to not actually believe that everybody just "getting a garden" would solve the problem.

I didn't say crops, I said a garden. As in, if I were starving to death and eating out of the dumpster I might throw some seeds in some dirt whether it be in a pot or somewhere I have access to. I would pour whatever wet shit on it I could and be eating something besides trash one day. There's much more involved with these people than them not being able to nurse a plant into fruitation. If they were intelligent but just deprived of certain things because of where they are they'd still be intelligent enough not to keep having kids that will starve to death. They live like animals and it needs to be stopped one way or another.

Gottis · 10-06-2004, 06:18 PM

Definitely a very pressing issue, good thread KRL. Despite all the problems they're battling over there, they still manage to smile. Such genuine smiles too.

They can be happy with the little things they got. I remember my old teather travelling to Africa, let some kids have pencils and things like that. They were cheering. Over pencils.

I get mad depressed thinking about what's happening around the globe.

sexeducation · 10-06-2004, 06:23 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
I didn't say crops, I said a garden. As in, if I were starving to death and eating out of the dumpster I might throw some seeds in some dirt whether it be in a pot or somewhere I have access to. I would pour whatever wet shit on it I could and be eating something besides trash one day. There's much more involved with these people than them not being able to nurse a plant into fruitation. If they were intelligent but just deprived of certain things because of where they are they'd still be intelligent enough not to keep having kids that will starve to death. They live like animals and it needs to be stopped one way or another.

Wrong ...
because we live in a sexual dark ages ...
THEY ARE NOT TAUGHT the Combined Fertility Cylcle method of avoiding pregnancy.

They simply don't know and get pregnant because they believe lies and myths ...

It's our job - the "haves" to ensure a global standard for sex education - to HELP stop poverty.

Libertine · 10-06-2004, 06:25 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
I didn't say crops, I said a garden. As in, if I were starving to death and eating out of the dumpster I might throw some seeds in some dirt whether it be in a pot or somewhere I have access to. I would pour whatever wet shit on it I could and be eating something besides trash one day. There's much more involved with these people than them not being able to nurse a plant into fruitation. If they were intelligent but just deprived of certain things because of where they are they'd still be intelligent enough not to keep having kids that will starve to death. They live like animals and it needs to be stopped one way or another.

Are you drunk?

If not, you are quite a bit less intelligent than I thought you were.

Growing your own food requires a significant amount of fertile land, as well as seeds, fertilizer, water and expertise. Money, time and education, three things these people don't have.
In most third world countries, people who have actually spent their entire lives farming are hardly able to live of their own land. With no land of your own and no starting resources, it's an impossible task.

As for children, most people simply don't have the knowledge to even know how to practice birth control. Many others don't have the resources. Also, many traditional/conservative groups are opposed to birth control (e.g. the pope), which also has a large influence.
Besides that, in many third world countries large families are a part of the culture and children are used as a pension plan of sorts. If you get old and don't have children, you'll die the moment you aren't able to take care of yourself anymore.

Shoehorn! · 10-06-2004, 06:48 PM

Very sad indeed, although I still feel that charity begins at home, and before we help other nations we should help our own people.

sexeducation · 10-06-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Are you drunk?
If not, you are quite a bit less intelligent than I thought you were.

Growing your own food requires a significant amount of fertile land, as well as seeds, fertilizer, water and expertise. Money, time and education, three things these people don't have.
In most third world countries, people who have actually spent their entire lives farming are hardly able to live of their own land. With no land of your own and no starting resources, it's an impossible task.

As for children, most people simply don't have the knowledge to even know how to practice birth control. Many others don't have the resources. Also, many traditional/conservative groups are opposed to birth control (e.g. the pope), which also has a large influence.
Besides that, in many third world countries large families are a part of the culture and children are used as a pension plan of sorts. If you get old and don't have children, you'll die the moment you aren't able to take care of yourself anymore.

Yes exactly ...
I kept my post short.

You are right on the money with EACH SENTENCE !!!
Thank you

stocktrader23 · 10-06-2004, 06:58 PM

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Originally posted by punkworld
Are you drunk?
If not, you are quite a bit less intelligent than I thought you were.

Growing your own food requires a significant amount of fertile land, as well as seeds, fertilizer, water and expertise. Money, time and education, three things these people don't have.
In most third world countries, people who have actually spent their entire lives farming are hardly able to live of their own land. With no land of your own and no starting resources, it's an impossible task.

As for children, most people simply don't have the knowledge to even know how to practice birth control. Many others don't have the resources. Also, many traditional/conservative groups are opposed to birth control (e.g. the pope), which also has a large influence.
Besides that, in many third world countries large families are a part of the culture and children are used as a pension plan of sorts. If you get old and don't have children, you'll die the moment you aren't able to take care of yourself anymore.

I was being sarcastic but the fact remains, there is much more in the root of the problem than these poor people that were born into a bad place. They are fucked in the head and do nothing to improve anything. They spend their days scavaging and popping out kids that are doomed from the start.

sexeducation · 10-06-2004, 07:02 PM

stock you were owned by PunkWorld ...
owned ...

you're just digging your grave deeper and not amount of spin can get you out of this one...

Bow to the power of PunkWorld ... ;)

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KRL Entrepreneur Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: USA Posts: 31,429	The part that kills me is these children are so young. My lord imagine the potentially harmful, infectious, dangerous and toxic stuff that is in this landfill. They probably don't even have shoes on. There is no excuse that we can't find solutions for places and people so impoverished. No excuse at all with all the wealth and technology on this planet. __________________ If you would like to develop your domains, you can lease inexpensive foreign labor from the leaders in the field at iWebmasters.com TO LOWER YOUR COSTS AND INCREASE YOUR PRODUCTION! * * * * * * * * * * * * Domains Adult News KRL's Newsletter Biz Tips Just Listed Domains

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BRISK Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 12,240	It is good to have a reality check every once in a while. I recently watched a documentary that showed the lives of these people. Children are born on the garbage dump. They live there all their life searching the garbage for scap metal and plastic to sell just so they can buy enough food to live for another day of doing exactly the same thing all day long. They have horrible infections and diseases all their life because of the environment they live in, and eventually they die (on the garbage dump). __________________ I post on GFY so that when people ask me what I do, I can tell them that I work with the mentally retarded.

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