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  • pimplink
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 9535

    #1

    Why don't more sponsors offer SE friendly linking

    Like etu-cash does?

    For example, you link to http://bigboobspaysite.com and the referring domain is tracked, so that there is no need for a tracking code?

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  • OWNED
    So Fucking Banned
    • Mar 2004
    • 852

    #2
    shut up noob.

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    • Rinaldo
      Confirmed User
      • Sep 2003
      • 5086

      #3
      Well what kind of linking are you referring to?

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      • pimplink
        Confirmed User
        • Jun 2001
        • 9535

        #4
        Originally posted by Platinum Rinaldo
        Well what kind of linking are you referring to?
        copied from http://etu-cash.com/free_staff.html:

        Direct link.

        This option is also totally unique and was invented by us.

        You list your domain in our database then instead of sending traffic to a long, ugly URL like http://www.ravegloryhole.com/index.php3?id=YourID (the common way all partnerships programs work nowadays), you will be able to send traffic directly to the site, such as http://www.ravegloryhole.com and you will STILL GET CREDIT FOR ALL SIGNUPS!

        However strange it sounds, this is has proven to actually DOUBLE the conversion! Most of surfers nowadays are more tech-savvy than in previous years and some of them go as far as even deleting the link code with webmasters ID simply because they don't want anyone to profit from their money! They also simply like and trust www.paysite.com much more than https://www.paysite.com/fuckknowswha...smartwebmaster

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        • WiredGuy
          Pounding Googlebot
          • Aug 2002
          • 34512

          #5
          Quickbuck has a very flexible system for SE friendly urls.
          WG
          I play with Google.

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          • pimplink
            Confirmed User
            • Jun 2001
            • 9535

            #6
            Originally posted by WiredGuy
            Quickbuck has a very flexible system for SE friendly urls.
            WG
            thanks, I'll check them out

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            • polish_aristocrat
              Too lazy to set a custom title
              • Jul 2002
              • 40377

              #7
              Do you really believe, such things double your conversions?
              I don't use ICQ anymore.

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              • Raf1
                Too lazy to set a custom title
                • Oct 2003
                • 12117

                #8
                yeah, I wish more sponsors would use SE friendly urls
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                • Serge Litehead
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2002
                  • 5190

                  #9
                  Originally posted by pimplink
                  Like etu-cash does?

                  For example, you link to http://bigboobspaysite.com and the referring domain is tracked, so that there is no need for a tracking code?
                  will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.
                  but who doesn't want untrackable traffic?

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                  • EscortDate_Enoj
                    Registered User
                    • Mar 2002
                    • 87

                    #10
                    I asked the same question a few months back, I wrote an affiliate system earlier this year which uses that method and it works just great.

                    In addition to offering awesome short URLs to our affiliates, we now also track all sales from all other sites - not registered by affiliates. In other words, we get direct conversion rates from all search engines, etc etc.

                    It kicks ass.

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                    • pimplink
                      Confirmed User
                      • Jun 2001
                      • 9535

                      #11
                      Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
                      Do you really believe, such things double your conversions?
                      I wasn't even referring to that line. It's just about your credibility and SE friendliness.

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                      • pimplink
                        Confirmed User
                        • Jun 2001
                        • 9535

                        #12
                        Originally posted by holograph
                        will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.
                        but who doesn't want untrackable traffic?
                        or in that case, something like bigboobspaysite.com/pimplink

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                        • teleblade69
                          Confirmed User
                          • Nov 2003
                          • 1063

                          #13
                          SEO is tha bomb


                          tb

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                          • xxxjay
                            Tube groupie.
                            • Aug 2002
                            • 13482

                            #14
                            That would be great for the paysite operators if you could link directly.

                            Pimplink - you can feel free to link directly to any or all of our sites, we will give your credit - I promise.

                            Our linkcode for occash are SE friendly as well, BTW.
                            http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                            • EscortDate_Enoj
                              Registered User
                              • Mar 2002
                              • 87

                              #15
                              Originally posted by holograph
                              will not work with surfers using Norton Internet Security, as referer is not passed with NIS being on.
                              While this is true, how many users are using that excact piece of software? On one of our paysites the content provider relies on HTTP_REFERER to be the paysite's members area when a user is sent to it. We have rarely had any problems with it though.

                              Also, can anyone give me a good reason why a piece of firewall software should block the browser's HTTP_REFERER? I can understand blocking for example USER_AGENT to not let the site throw the browser a version-specific exploit, but how does it make sense with HTTP_REFERER?

                              The only fairly valid reason I can think of is privacy-freaks which refuses to send any site the address they came from, but that is not a good enough reason for making this the default setting in such a high profile firewall application.

                              Anyway, thinking about this I decided to post a screenshot from the affiliate program (the one I made, mentioned it earlier) we use for one of our sites, to show you what kind of handy information you can retrieve by using such a method.

                              The screenshots show's the top #20 unregistered sites in our system. That means, all sites not registered by an affiliate. That mostly includes search engines, some top lists etc.

                              The numbers are hits, sales and conversion rates. Also have in mind these are SMS sales, which is the lesser used payment method on our site. The credit card sales are not counted here as our beloved Verotel takes care of that.



                              As you can see for yourself, in terms of optimizing profits such information as the picture above is great to see which areas needs work, etc.

                              Also, the picture above groups all the referers by domain to create a count per domain. If we want, we can also see detailed statistics on search engine keywords, etc.

                              Wouldn't it be easier to improve your sites with such information?

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                              • roly
                                Confirmed User
                                • Aug 2002
                                • 1844

                                #16
                                tracking like that only benefits the program owners as far as search engine friendlyness goes, not the affiliate.

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                                • Jensen
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • Apr 2001
                                  • 3790

                                  #17
                                  tracking like that only benefits the program owners as far as search engine friendlyness goes, not the affiliate.
                                  yep.. but sure would be nice for the owners..

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                                  • Basic_man
                                    Programming King Pin
                                    • Oct 2003
                                    • 27360

                                    #18
                                    Could be great if Adult.com had this!
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                                    • emthree
                                      Dialer Kingpin
                                      • Jun 2003
                                      • 10816

                                      #19
                                      Originally posted by Basic_man
                                      Could be great if Adult.com had this!
                                      You must be getting paid per post.

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                                      • FiReC
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Jan 2002
                                        • 2350

                                        #20
                                        Tracking by HTTP_REFERER is a horrible idea! Many people are now blocking it and it will only get worse.

                                        As far as "se friendly" codes go, last time i checked vbulletin links with all their variables in the URL were being spidered by google. SE's are moving towards spidering dynamic content, not away from it.
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                                        • pornstar2pac
                                          Omaha Hi/Lo
                                          • Nov 2003
                                          • 17380

                                          #21
                                          why doesn't the program owners just submit their link to yahoo or google like everyone who has a website does and cut out the middlemen(oh wait a min...)
                                          Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                          • Fukeneh
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Mar 2004
                                            • 1245

                                            #22
                                            www.domain.com/affiliateid/optional.sub

                                            would be ideal for me. its very easy with mod rewrite. or even just changing the acceptable variables in php to use / instead of &

                                            this is not new, many people are using it. i just didnt think anyone was stupid enough to just direct link to the domain and hope the sponsor tracks the referrer, due to reffer being blocked or unavailable in so many cases.

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                                            • xxxjay
                                              Tube groupie.
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 13482

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by pornstar2pac
                                              why doesn't the program owners just submit their link to yahoo or google like everyone who has a website does and cut out the middlemen(oh wait a min...)
                                              pornstar2pac is the biggest idiot on this board and is the 1st to make my ignore list. Congrats,
                                              http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                              • SmokeyTheBear
                                                ►SouthOfHeaven
                                                • Jun 2004
                                                • 28609

                                                #24
                                                btw this would make it less se friendly not more se friendly..

                                                like if i send my hits to www.sexvideos.com the se wont track the link with your ref code because there is no ref code..

                                                its a good idea to make your own site look cleaner without ref codes makes it seem more legit.

                                                But se's are picking up dynamic content quite well already so.
                                                hatisblack at yahoo.com

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                                                • Nathan
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • Jul 2003
                                                  • 3108

                                                  #25
                                                  I am a little bit confused here everyone...

                                                  What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain. What other sense is there if I may ask?!

                                                  Maybe I am just too stupid for that.

                                                  NATS uses linkinc codes which do not use Query String btw.
                                                  "Think about it a little more and you'll agree with me, because you're smart and I'm right."
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                                                  • strobi
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Nov 2002
                                                    • 7383

                                                    #26
                                                    does this work with a simple redirect? google hates redirects

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                                                    • pornstar2pac
                                                      Omaha Hi/Lo
                                                      • Nov 2003
                                                      • 17380

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by xxxjay
                                                      pornstar2pac is the biggest idiot on this board and is the 1st to make my ignore list. Congrats,

                                                      I don't give a fuck what you think. Your nobody to me. You don't make me money, and I don't need your shit to make money.


                                                      good luck with OK cash and your buddy TT Boy. the one who employed the dude who gave aids to many peeps
                                                      Trump haters gonna hate. that's all they can do

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                                                      • xxxjay
                                                        Tube groupie.
                                                        • Aug 2002
                                                        • 13482

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by Nathan
                                                        I am a little bit confused here everyone...

                                                        What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain. What other sense is there if I may ask?!

                                                        Maybe I am just too stupid for that.

                                                        NATS uses linkinc codes which do not use Query String btw.
                                                        I've been seeing the NATS codes indexed in Google quite a bit.
                                                        http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                        • xxxjay
                                                          Tube groupie.
                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                          • 13482

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by Nathan
                                                          I am a little bit confused here everyone...

                                                          What is the interessed of an _AFFILIATE_ to use SE Friendly URLs??? It _ONLY_ benefits the Paysite owner, because their PR will increase if they can link directly to the domain.
                                                          That is true.
                                                          http://donttellmehowtoruinmylife.com/ - http://www.jmdigitalmarketing.com/my...s-and-reviews/ - http://www.wouldyouhitit.org - http://shinyobjectreviews.com/

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                                                          • Intrigue
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Feb 2004
                                                            • 662

                                                            #30
                                                            I've used mod_rewrite to rewrite friendly urls eg: mydomain.com/paysite_name to a script which would lookup paysite_name and send them to the appropriate url w/ the proper affil code in place, it's actually pretty simple to do...

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                                                            • Tipsy
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Jul 2001
                                                              • 6989

                                                              #31
                                                              It's been said but not really answered. What's with the 'SE friendly' crap? Why would it matter to you if a paysite does better in the rankings as you certainly won't get credit when they do and the linking described doesn't help you with SE's.

                                                              NATS codes are a different matter though
                                                              Ignorance is never bliss.

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                                                              • kenny
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Mar 2002
                                                                • 7245

                                                                #32
                                                                I have had

                                                                http://www.sponsor.com/tour.html?my_affilate_id

                                                                Indexed in the SE's before. Hell, I probably got some in there like that now.

                                                                Anyway.. thats friendly enough for me
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                                                                • Robert
                                                                  Ask me about negative cash flow
                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                  • 533

                                                                  #33
                                                                  Privatecuties.com FHG URLs are SE friendly

                                                                  http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...e+cuties+sarka
                                                                  SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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                                                                  • Zeiss
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • May 2012
                                                                    • 5189

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Because nobody wants to have the same content on different urls being indexed by SE...


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