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keyboard warrior 10-06-2004 10:12 AM

( Fidy I hate Aarons )


Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
Okay, you want to take swipes at me, call me names, be a troll, you go ahead and do it here. Get it out of your system. Say anything you want, I don't care. I have a LOT bigger problems to deal with than you and your childish name calling, so if you want to do it, do it now and move on with your life.

In fact, you want some ammunition to use in your game?

I'm broke. I have 5 kids to feed. My rent is over a month late. My car payment is 3 months late. I'm behind on every single bill I have. I'm such a loser that I work 14 hours a day and I still can't keep caught up. My babysitter quit and now I have to watch the kids AND work, which means I can't sleep much and I'm tired as hell and very cranky. And to top is all off, I found out that I need a biopsy because I may have cervical cancer and I don't have medical insurance.

Do you think ANYTHING you have to say can be worse than what I'm going through right now? Go for it.


This sounds worst then my IBILL delema - i may be down that road soon. been there before tehre are always ways to bounce back!

Good Luck:)

StuartD 10-06-2004 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Raven
Looks like you and I were wrong, MM....Aaron DID post. :)

Glad I didn't bet you.

No doubt... well, I wasn't going to bet he wouldn't post, but I would have bet that he wouldn't say as much as he did... guess he had a free moment before getting to his work. :winkwink:

Raven 10-06-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by MaskedMan
No doubt... well, I wasn't going to bet he wouldn't post, but I would have bet that he wouldn't say as much as he did... guess he had a free moment before getting to his work. :winkwink:
And, don't forget he types fast, too. :)

Serge Litehead 10-06-2004 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM

Do I have a heart? Yes, but you sure as hell ain?t gonna see it on a board filled with idiots who start threads like this at my expense.
Hi.
What's the total damage?

polish_aristocrat 10-06-2004 10:30 AM

Hm....

On this board people who never have their own opinion and alway kiss ass are called sheep..... And those who have their own opinion...are called morons.

I don't know what the Tootie - AaronM drama was about though.

:2 cents:

keyboard warrior 10-06-2004 10:35 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Hm....

On this board people who never have their own opinion and alway kiss ass are called sheep..... And those who have their own opinion...are called morons.

I don't know what the Tootie - AaronM drama was about though.

:2 cents:

Think this Drama has been going on for a while with those 2.

MickeyG 10-06-2004 10:36 AM

I think Aaron has a crush on her. :Graucho

Doctor Dre 10-06-2004 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by makefuckingmoney
Tootie,

Hit me on icq..you have done some work for me in the past. I am sure I can help.

Chris

Chris to the rescue once again

The Shepherd 10-06-2004 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
Hm....

On this board people who never have their own opinion and alway kiss ass are called sheep..... And those who have their own opinion...are called morons.

I don't know what the Tootie - AaronM drama was about though.

:2 cents:


I like the sheep. They help fill my life with joy.

If you had read the thread that started this then you would understand that Aaron was calling her a moron because she was acting like one and not because she had an opinion.

http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...adid=367269&s=

Doctor Dre 10-06-2004 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
He works, watches the kids sometimes while I work when he's home. But it's nowhere near enough to keep us caught up now that we've fallen so far behind.
That really sucks ... I've been behind for 2 months in my life and I never want to be in the red again ... as soon as you get a chance (rarely happenS) put some money aside :P

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE 10-06-2004 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
1. Aaron just posted a hateful message to me a little while ago, so I figured he was around to post.

2. I don't have time to get into anything else at the moment.

3. I don't expect him to go easy on me. I want him to be evil, horrible, mean, cruel and sarcastic. And hopefully get it out of his system.

And the business has worked VERY well for me in the past. I have plently of people can tell you what a WILD success my ARS BYOTs were. But when ARS discontinued their BYOT program, I lost a MASSIVE chunk of my income. I didn't have all of my eggs in one basket, I had other income, but it wasn't enough. Sadly, that income too has dropped severely, to almost nothing in fact. And that is out of my control. I also invested most of my income into building my own paysite at the request of numerous people who promoted my BYOTs and knew how well they converted. Unfortunately, ARS stopped the program just a few weeks before I was ready to open and my bills have been getting further and further behind ever since.

I don't need to find another business. I was BORN for this business. I feel it through and through. But I've had a series of unfortunate events that would put almost anyone behind, no matter how talented or motivated they were.

I have put alot of hard work, sleepless nights and money into this business and I am NOT giving up.

Nice.

OK:thumbsup

Sounds like just a rough time, but ya got the spirit, hats off to ya :glugglug

Doctor Dre 10-06-2004 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I've been there. I can imagine 5 kids being stressful, my 1 gives me a run for my money.

Good luck.

I don't understand how she can even think about working ... outch

Doctor Dre 10-06-2004 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ
1: ArronM is sleeping. ( Most likely )

2: Maybe you should think of alternative business opportunities.

3: When he reads this don't expect em to go easy on ya.


PS: I wouldnt go easy either. You should not be in this biz, your a hazard to yourself working to much in a biz that obviously is not working for you.

Ya got mouths to feed and other priorities, you dont belong here. Seriously reconsider what your doing cuz you are doing somthing wrong.

:2 cents:

She's not bad at what she's doing ... but that should be a half time job I agree ... you cannot have tgp and button orders as a fulltime job ;(

KRL 10-06-2004 10:40 AM

I ordered banners recently from Tootie and she did a great job for me.

Her situation is real by the way.

Hang in there girl. Behind every storm is the sunshine waiting to break through again.

keyboard warrior 10-06-2004 10:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL
I ordered banners recently from Tootie and she did a great job for me.

Her situation is real by the way.

Hang in there girl. Behind every storm is the sunshine waiting to break through again.

Well said!

Doctor Dre 10-06-2004 10:43 AM

Tootie let's see one of your tours :)

I thought you were only doing basic stuff ;)

NoCarrier 10-06-2004 10:48 AM

http://www.nachtbar.nl/userfiles/uploads/Tootsie.jpg

KRL 10-06-2004 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by NoCarrier
http://www.nachtbar.nl/userfiles/uploads/Tootsie.jpg
Shit you just gave me a craving for them. LOL

chupachups 10-06-2004 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by KRL

Hang in there girl. Behind every storm is the sunshine waiting to break through again.

Todays truth

xxxdesign-net 10-06-2004 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AlienQ


3: When he reads this don't expect em to go easy on ya.


PS: I wouldnt go easy either


LOL... sorry but you dont scare anyone...

wyldblyss 10-06-2004 11:06 AM

Good luck with the biopsy Tootie, and don't let it stress you too much. Cervical cancer has a very good cure rate. I had it and all they had to do was freeze off some cells and I was good to go. Both my mother and grandmother had it and they lived at least 40 years afterwards.

As for your financial circumstances I have learned that the best way to handle things is to live a minimalist life until you have money in the bank...especially if you have 5 kids you have to think of. Get rid of everything that is not needed at the moment. That goes for cable channels, subscriptions...all that non-vital stuff. You could also start cooking instead of eating take-out. I remember a thread around Christmas or so where you said that your family eats take-out almost every day because you don't have time to cook. Even making canned soup and a sandwich for dinner is much cheaper than buying take-out for 7 people and will also be much healthier for your children. Fast food is not the most healthy of foods and there are things you can do to provide good food at low cost, even when you are short on time.

Don't replace the babysitter, instead spend 1/2 hour a day organizing the children and you will not only keep them amused but you will also have more time to spend working. Get together craft ideas, craft supplies etc. and keep them busy. Older children, even if they are not much older can assist in the care of younger children if you give them the responsibilty. Think back to the early 1900's when 10 year olds would be in charge of the family farm while the parents went on a journey for a couple weeks. They even had to bake the bread, light the fires, milk the cows. Given this idea, you can see that many children are capable of doing much more than most parents realize.

One good way is making the oldest "teacher" because kids love to be the teacher or the babysitter. Let the child come up with ideas on how to amuse the siblings. Even 6 and 7 year olds can come up with games and activities to do.

Look for other sources of income to help pay past due bills. Things like selling retro stuff you can buy at second hand stores on eBay. Where there is a will, there is a way. I personally work about 16 hours a day, 7 days a week...and have for as far back as I can remember. Organization and prioritizing is the key.

Peaches 10-06-2004 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyldblyss
Good luck with the biopsy Tootie, and don't let it stress you too much. Cervical cancer has a very good cure rate. I had it and all they had to do was freeze off some cells and I was good to go. Both my mother and grandmother had it and they lived at least 40 years afterwards.

As for your financial circumstances I have learned that the best way to handle things is to live a minimalist life until you have money in the bank...especially if you have 5 kids you have to think of. Get rid of everything that is not needed at the moment. That goes for cable channels, subscriptions...all that non-vital stuff. You could also start cooking instead of eating take-out. I remember a thread around Christmas or so where you said that your family eats take-out almost every day because you don't have time to cook. Even making canned soup and a sandwich for dinner is much cheaper than buying take-out for 7 people and will also be much healthier for your children. Fast food is not the most healthy of foods and there are things you can do to provide good food at low cost, even when you are short on time.

Don't replace the babysitter, instead spend 1/2 hour a day organizing the children and you will not only keep them amused but you will also have more time to spend working. Get together craft ideas, craft supplies etc. and keep them busy. Older children, even if they are not much older can assist in the care of younger children if you give them the responsibilty. Think back to the early 1900's when 10 year olds would be in charge of the family farm while the parents went on a journey for a couple weeks. They even had to bake the bread, light the fires, milk the cows. Given this idea, you can see that many children are capable of doing much more than most parents realize.

One good way is making the oldest "teacher" because kids love to be the teacher or the babysitter. Let the child come up with ideas on how to amuse the siblings. Even 6 and 7 year olds can come up with games and activities to do.

Look for other sources of income to help pay past due bills. Things like selling retro stuff you can buy at second hand stores on eBay. Where there is a will, there is a way. I personally work about 16 hours a day, 7 days a week...and have for as far back as I can remember. Organization and prioritizing is the key.

EXCELLENT post!! :thumbsup

emthree 10-06-2004 11:28 AM

I would have thought you were doing fairly good, since you get a lot of GFY work. :helpme
The above posts show this, everyone has a job for you somewhere. You can easily increase your work load if you were to spread yourself over a few high traffic webmaster hot spots. I understand shit takes time, but things dont add up.

I'm not really understanding the situation, but good luck to you. :thumbsup

edit: I also remember you being "backlogged" with work ...

webgurl 10-06-2004 11:33 AM

hey tooootie ,
contact me when u get moment
cheers
:glugglug

dready 10-06-2004 11:52 AM

Sorry about your situation tootie... you do some nice work... I'm sure better times are ahead for you! :thumbsup

LadyMischief 10-06-2004 12:06 PM

Hmm.. maybe Aaron should invoice Tootie for the use of his name/trademark? :P

baddog 10-06-2004 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CHMOD
You mean he must be eating a Big Mac somewhere.


In & Out, Taco Bell, or El Pollo Loco maybe . . . never seen him go McD's

C_U_Next_Tuesday 10-06-2004 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by wyldblyss
Good luck with the biopsy Tootie, and don't let it stress you too much. Cervical cancer has a very good cure rate. I had it and all they had to do was freeze off some cells and I was good to go. Both my mother and grandmother had it and they lived at least 40 years afterwards.

As for your financial circumstances I have learned that the best way to handle things is to live a minimalist life until you have money in the bank...especially if you have 5 kids you have to think of. Get rid of everything that is not needed at the moment. That goes for cable channels, subscriptions...all that non-vital stuff. You could also start cooking instead of eating take-out. I remember a thread around Christmas or so where you said that your family eats take-out almost every day because you don't have time to cook. Even making canned soup and a sandwich for dinner is much cheaper than buying take-out for 7 people and will also be much healthier for your children. Fast food is not the most healthy of foods and there are things you can do to provide good food at low cost, even when you are short on time.

Don't replace the babysitter, instead spend 1/2 hour a day organizing the children and you will not only keep them amused but you will also have more time to spend working. Get together craft ideas, craft supplies etc. and keep them busy. Older children, even if they are not much older can assist in the care of younger children if you give them the responsibilty. Think back to the early 1900's when 10 year olds would be in charge of the family farm while the parents went on a journey for a couple weeks. They even had to bake the bread, light the fires, milk the cows. Given this idea, you can see that many children are capable of doing much more than most parents realize.

One good way is making the oldest "teacher" because kids love to be the teacher or the babysitter. Let the child come up with ideas on how to amuse the siblings. Even 6 and 7 year olds can come up with games and activities to do.

Look for other sources of income to help pay past due bills. Things like selling retro stuff you can buy at second hand stores on eBay. Where there is a will, there is a way. I personally work about 16 hours a day, 7 days a week...and have for as far back as I can remember. Organization and prioritizing is the key.

great post :thumbsup

good luck Tootie :)

Basic_man 10-06-2004 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by [Brian]
keep your head up tootie :)
:thumbsup

tootie 10-06-2004 01:14 PM

Thank you for all the thoughtful and helpful responses, everyone. I truly appreciate it. :)

And Aaron, thank you for posting. Sincerly. I got exactly what I expected from you. I hope you've got things out of your system so I can get back to business, but if not, I guess you can keep flaming me if you want to. I certainly have better things to worry about than petty board arguements, and at least I've learned one thing from all of this. I will certainly avoid you from now on. You have one less "idiot" to worry about invading your space, I guess. :thumbsup

And yes, emthree, I am backlogged at the moment. I have been for a few weeks. I had a special on custom TGP design and got quite a few orders, not nearly enough to get caught up, but enough to pay a minimum payment on a couple of utility bills. Then I got a job that was large enough to pay my rent and some back bills, too. They were unwilling to pay even 50% up front, but I took the job against my better judgement because I really needed the money. I spent quite a while working on it, thinking I might actually be able to get caught up finally. Then the client came back, told me he didn't like any of it, and wouldn't pay. After I told him that I'd worked hard and was willing to change it, he told me we would continue to work on it and try to get it right, but of course that put me further behind, having to do the same job twice. I sent him the latest changes to the first site 2 days ago, but I haven't heard from him. Hopefully he will like them and I can finish the other sites up the same way and get paid. He's an honest person, I have no doubt I'll get paid if I can just get these done the way he wants them, but it has set me back HARD.

KCat 10-06-2004 02:10 PM

I hope things work out for you, but with that many bills & kids to feed, I'd be looking for at least a part time job to bring in some steady money. Then work on growing your business & putting at least 3 months living expenses in the bank.

In any small business, shit happens. Processors go tits up, sponsors fold & you need to be prepared to handle the blows. Whether you love the industry or not is irrelevant. I would suck it up & get a job ASAP to make sure my kids were taken care of.

:2 cents:

tootie 10-06-2004 02:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by KCat
I hope things work out for you, but with that many bills & kids to feed, I'd be looking for at least a part time job to bring in some steady money. Then work on growing your business & putting at least 3 months living expenses in the bank.

In any small business, shit happens. Processors go tits up, sponsors fold & you need to be prepared to handle the blows. Whether you love the industry or not is irrelevant. I would suck it up & get a job ASAP to make sure my kids were taken care of.

:2 cents:

Here's the problem. 5 kids = at least $200 a week in child care even in federally subsidized programs (the subsidized programs around here are all $40+ per week per child.) Regular daycare centers want $60-$100 a week PER CHILD.

If I was lucky and managed to find a job at $8.00 per hour, 40 hours a week would only be $320. Minus taxes would leave maybe $250 a week. So I work 40 hours for $50? :(

My mother has no job. She is on social security and doesn't have to work. But she won't help me by watching my kids because she want to go to college, even if I pay her a little. I have no other family to turn to for help with babysitting.

I make more than $8 per hour doing graphics design. The problems is, with my husband working and no babysitter, I don't have nearly as many hours to work as I need to, plus, when I have a client that takes longer than normal because of changes and such, it puts my whole client list behind which means I can't take new jobs until I get caught up, meaning no income during that time.

My oldest is 8 and he does help watch the others, but he can't cook, and he can't clean alot (although he does take out the trash, clean up some, vacuum and such.) But the bulk of it has to be done by myself and my husband.

It will all work out eventually. I have faith in my own ability and my motivation. I am just having a rough time right now, but I know I can pull out of this if I work hard. :)

BT 10-06-2004 02:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie
Okay, you want to take swipes at me, call me names, be a troll, you go ahead and do it here. Get it out of your system. Say anything you want, I don't care. I have a LOT bigger problems to deal with than you and your childish name calling, so if you want to do it, do it now and move on with your life.

In fact, you want some ammunition to use in your game?

I'm broke. I have 5 kids to feed. My rent is over a month late. My car payment is 3 months late. I'm behind on every single bill I have. I'm such a loser that I work 14 hours a day and I still can't keep caught up. My babysitter quit and now I have to watch the kids AND work, which means I can't sleep much and I'm tired as hell and very cranky. And to top is all off, I found out that I need a biopsy because I may have cervical cancer and I don't have medical insurance.

Do you think ANYTHING you have to say can be worse than what I'm going through right now? Go for it.


Sounds like a counrty western song:1orglaugh

tootie 10-06-2004 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BT_trafficcashgold
Sounds like a counrty western song:1orglaugh
Hehe. Sadly, you're right. Maybe I should sell it to Garth Brooks or Toby Keith. I might make enough money to get out of this mess. :Graucho :(

BlueQuartz 10-06-2004 03:05 PM

wow what a man - abuse the woman a bit more why dont ya hero

you need a

good aussie beating aaronm you fat fuck

chaze 10-06-2004 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by BlueQuartz
wow what a man - abuse the woman a bit more why dont ya hero

you need a

good aussie beating aaronm you fat fuck


:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

DorkJedi 10-06-2004 03:13 PM

I am Fat, ugly and can't do anything productive. I am a TOOL!!!
I am Fat, ugly and can't do anything productive. I am a TOOL!!!
I am Fat, ugly and can't do anything productive. I am a TOOL!!!
I am Fat, ugly and can't do anything productive. I am TOOL!!!
I am Fat, ugly and can't do anything productive. I am TOOL!!!

WarChild 10-06-2004 03:16 PM

I have no doubt you'll get caught up, Tootie. You are deffinetly a talented designer. :thumbsup

mightyjoe 10-06-2004 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by tootie


My oldest is 8 .............

8? sweet jesus! and maybe you're pregant again? and 10 years more, i can't imagine how many kids you have! :(

digifan 10-06-2004 03:42 PM

Hey girl, hang in there and I am hopeful that you are "only" physically sick from sitting at the computer for endless hours and the biopsy will not have negative results, hon :thumbsup

tootie 10-06-2004 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mightyjoe
8? sweet jesus! and maybe you're pregant again? and 10 years more, i can't imagine how many kids you have! :(
No, I'm not pregnant. Where did you hear that? My youngest is 14 months. And not that it really matters, but I was using birth control when I got pregnant with three of them. Condom didn't work, condom with spermacide didn't work and using the pill and the Depo Provera injection at the same time didn't work. And yes, I will absolutely be getting a tubal ligation when I can afford it. :)

4Pics 10-06-2004 03:45 PM

Hope everything turns around for you.

Peaches 10-06-2004 05:47 PM

Have you thought of being a substitute at your kid's school? You'd get out by the time they did so you'd only pay daycare for the kids that aren't in school.

Or ask around and see if there's a neighbor that will take them for a few dollars an hour.

Heck, if worse comes to worse, start a daycare. I have several friends bringing in $50-60K a year plus they don't have to pay for daycare! :)

chodadog 10-06-2004 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joesho
As far as Aaron goes, he would do better, if he were to change his outlook towards people, and the way he treats others in an attempt to look cool, bigger than he really is, or to feel superior to them for some kinda god complex or something. I hope he figures this out one day soon.

:2 cents:

Jesus Christ. I almost pissed myself. That's a classic.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=hypocrisy

$5 submissions 10-06-2004 07:11 PM

I ordered some graphics updates from Tootie yesterday. They were delivered on time and exceeded my expectations.

Tootie, you are a true professional. Thanks a bunch!

Sly 10-06-2004 07:24 PM

Tootie, here's an idea for you...

Find a neighbor kid with a little time on his/her hands and the desire to earn some cash. Maybe in the age range of 12-14, a girl would probably be best. Have them come over after school every day for 2-4 hours to help out around the house and watch the kids. You're still around for any emergencies that may happen, but other than that I see no reason a 12-14 year old girl couldn't handle your kids unless they're complete hellions.

Have her keep the kids occupied, get them started on their homework, start dinner, tidy up the living room a little bit, and any other odd jobs you may need done around the house. Give her $20 a day. Even to a 12-14 year old, $20 for a couple hours work is great money. That's $100 extra a week in her pocket.

Now before you freak out about the $100 a week, think about it for a minute. It's MUCH cheaper than any day care. The kids are close so you know they're safe. Homework is started. The living area is moderately clean. And the basics of dinner have been started, all while you're at your computer completing orders.

Above you stated that your time is worth more than $8 per hour, which it is. So get somebody else in there helping while you make your $20 or whatever it is an hour.

Think about it.

tootie 10-06-2004 07:31 PM

Peaches, I've looked into the idea of running a daycare before but they county allows a maximum of 6 children per caretaker including your own, so I'd only been able to keep one. :(

Thanks, Sly. I don't know if I can find anyone around here or not. I don't know any of my neighbors except that two of them are incredibly rude and hateful to everyone else in the neighborhood and no one else will even say hi to you. I really hate this neighboorhood, but at least it seems safe. I'll see what I can do, though. That sounds like a great idea. I might even have to put an ad in the paper if I can't find someone nearby. :)

Alex 10-06-2004 07:39 PM

Tooties is a genius marketer. If any sponsors are looking for an affiliate rep, hit her up.


Think about it.
Starting a Drama thread with ArronM's name in the title.
Then here with this sob story about having 5kids;llate on every payment: Car, rent, every other bill (but her internet bill).


And look what happends. Eight or Ten of you jump on the bandwagaon and post that you will be hitting Tootie up with a job for her or some overdue payments to give her.


Tootie just made a bunch of money of this thread.

Im not doubting tootie isnt in the position she describes, and keep your head up if that is the case tootie.

juanito 10-06-2004 07:48 PM

hire an asian woman (stay-in servant), give her $400-500 a month and she will do all the domestic work, baby-sitting your kids 12/7.

SureFire 10-06-2004 08:12 PM

Tootie, I wish you all the best and I hope the medical issue is just a scare.

From the work I seen of yours, you are a good graphic designer and with five children, you must love children.

It appears that times are tough right now but you and your family will manage. I see your reasoning for not taking a low paying job, but did you ever think about teaching? Peaches suggested substituting or starting a daycare (which is a great idea but doesn?t cover health insurance). I know teaching is not an immediate fix but the hours are great and you would have insurance for you and your family.

With your graphic and computer skills if you went as a vo-tech teacher, in most states, you do not need a teaching credential and there is a lot of funding available.

Once again, I hope everything works out for you.


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