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Old 10-05-2004, 05:48 PM   #1
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Can anyone answer this MPEG playback question?

I can't figure this one out. If you play this video direct in media player by just clicking the gallery, the 1st video shows 6 seconds. HOWEVER, if you play it a second time by clicking the gallery link, it shows 10 seconds. 10 seconds is the correct length.

So WTF is with the 6 second playback the first time? I've tried it with XP SP2 and Win 2000.

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Old 10-05-2004, 05:51 PM   #2
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For me it says 8 seconds the first time, then 10 seconds every other time
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:51 PM   #3
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Nope you lost me on that one..
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:54 PM   #4
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Media Player has some known bug issues. Media Player 10 is out now, but you need SP2 to install it.
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:55 PM   #5
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I got 10 sec first time.
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:55 PM   #6
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Old 10-05-2004, 05:59 PM   #7
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Connection speed is kinda scetchy from here. Ranges from 65 to 300k/s in the same download.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:01 PM   #8
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First Clip is exactly 10 seconds in the most stable media player know to man...WMP 6.4

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Old 10-05-2004, 06:02 PM   #9
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Same problem in Media Player 10.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:02 PM   #10
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Media Player has some known bug issues. Media Player 10 is out now, but you need SP2 to install it.
I installed it on sp1, seems to work OK. It's still using media player 9 codecs so it's mostly just added features and a different interface.

Have you looked at the Music download feature they added? Seems like they are forcing a microsoft version of iTunes on users.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:04 PM   #11
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media player ten shows it as 10 the first time.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:13 PM   #12
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media player ten shows it as 10 the first time.
Ok using Media Player 10 -
First view of all movies comes out to 6 seconds for me
Aspect Ratio:1.42:1

On the second view I get 10 seconds
Aspect Ratio: 4:3

The other difference is the codec used from the first view :
MPEG Video Coded (the one giving the shorter time length)
On Second View:
Ligos MPEG Video Decoder (the one giving the correct length)

The codec part can probably be something with my pc though.

Maybe someone can see a pattern or reason with this.
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:15 PM   #13
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WM 10

7 secs

Not enough time for me to blow a load.

Please forward me the full video so that i may "inspect" the material
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:19 PM   #14
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WM 10

7 secs

Not enough time for me to blow a load.

Please forward me the full video so that i may "inspect" the material
Wacko!! hehehe or better yet 'Wacker'
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:23 PM   #15
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Windows media player 8

all vids 6 seconds on all tries.

EDIT: Just tried it again. 6 and 10. I must have been asleep the first time

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Old 10-05-2004, 06:24 PM   #16
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Actually, Lensman - it may have something to do with the way it's saved - I found this on google.
http://www.scala.com/discussions/mpe...help-1646.html on a forum - different problem but might be the reason for it :

Posted: Friday, 12/13/2002 -- by Vladimir Zecevic. Subject: Audio Demystified (Cinderella kind of explanation)
Long time a go, when multimedia has started on PC, not all of the machines ware capable of playing all video content. In order to allow to all people, watching great and widely available video content something has to be done. One could not allow that film which is 1 hour long last 2 hour on slow machine.
Then one day, someone proposed that if machine is not capable of drawing all video frames it should skip some of those frames (cheating? no that's flexibility). But if you drop some of the frames how you should know the duration of video clip?
Fortunately almost all machines ware capable of producing audio streams without a glitch. And decision was made; Audio will be "heart beat" for multimedia.
It was too complicated at that time to think about other possible "heart beats". After all that was the beginning of multimedia. Time ware tough and you ware unable to know when bad application will decide to take over whole PC. (Drivers ware good guys those days)
To be continued...
Copyright (c) 2002, Vladimir Zecevic, all rights reserved.


I am kidding of course, please do not be offended. However, "core components" of the story are OK. Your audio card is giving clock for video stream and it is probable that it does not do it properly.

If you have audio integrated on your motherboard (most likely), it is probable that it will do better job than your Creative card.

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Old 10-05-2004, 06:26 PM   #17
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Windows media player 8

all vids 6 seconds on all tries.
Did you close your media player & then hit the same movie again?
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:35 PM   #18
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If you close Media Player and relaunch the video, it's the correct time. It's the 1st time it doesn't work.
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Try this



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Old 10-05-2004, 06:38 PM   #20
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If you close Media Player and relaunch the video, it's the correct time. It's the 1st time it doesn't work.
Sorry - yes you're correct - you have to try it on a new movie.
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I can't figure this one out. If you play this video direct in media player by just clicking the gallery, the 1st video shows 6 seconds. HOWEVER, if you play it a second time by clicking the gallery link, it shows 10 seconds. 10 seconds is the correct length.

So WTF is with the 6 second playback the first time? I've tried it with XP SP2 and Win 2000.

http://orca.adult.com/RCCF/ghg/brook...-01/index.html
I got seven seconds not six.
compression and cpu maybe?
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Old 10-05-2004, 06:54 PM   #23
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I got seven seconds not six.
compression and cpu maybe?
Then I got 10 seconds ...
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Old 10-05-2004, 07:03 PM   #24
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If you close Media Player and relaunch the video, it's the correct time. It's the 1st time it doesn't work.
1) Download starts at 200k+, based on DL speed and file size player decides to start after 2 seconds.

2) Download slows to 50k and video stops playing but finishes caching

3) Second try, video is cached, plays to the end
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Lensman - if you hit me up on ICQ I'd like you to test something with me.
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