Yes, this only applies to US based merchants.

To say this is all a farce would be an understatement...

Just because the US used a card company as a collection base for data and is making the actual merchants pay for this privilege, does not mean the rest of the world is not free.

I never did participate in that US bullshit and never will. The forms are enough to make ya spew up - you seriously think anyone with any sense is gonna dilvuge their biz dealings to some card company? It is not their concern.

All other banking regions in the world rejected Visa's kind offer - pity the US decided to think otherwise.

If you feel that IBill has crossed the line legally now and want to take action... then read on

Aside form the aforementioned problems they are having, they have not released the September 30th reserve payouts, which is money they are supposed to have been holding for their clients from February '04.

Their contract is very clear when it comes to reserves. 10% of all sales are held in reserve for 6 months to protect against chargebacks. They do not have the legal right to spend that money held "in reserve", if they do not have it, that is a misappropriation of funds, AKA, embezzlement.

If you want to send a clear message to the dolts at I-bill then the person to contact is:

Marcos Daniel Jiménez
United States Attorney for the
Southern District of Florida


99 N.E. 4th Street
Miami, FL 33132
(305) 961-9001

Give them a call this week and tell them that you have cause to believe that Internet Billing Co. of Ft. Lauderdale has misappropriated funds supposedly being held in reserve for their clients.

Thats good information

I smell a class action here. So far members have had access to sites for free because rebills are not being processed and if you dont pay out the $1500 they may never be processed. Resurves are late or not being paid which has zero to do with First Data. Ibill should have this money available to send all webmasters.
Maybe its time if webmasters are not going to get paid to get their Ibill members to request a refund ( not a charge back ) ( after all if you are not getting paid why should Ibill get it ) and ask them to switch to Epoch or CCbill or whatever back up processor you have ?

This is some fucked up shit!

Think i may just quit and go work at wendys!

and add my self to the class action suite.

of course you can move your consumers from one processor to another

it depends if ibill is willing to release that information directly to your other processor, they certainly would rather hold it so that you are forced to continue to use them

and if epoch/ccbill is willing to import it

interesting.

Everything ... :(

I have a visa ... don't have a mastercard

My company and I have never used any other credit cards besides MasterCards and never had a problem making a purchase or paying bills.

50 - $1500 Ibill Fees

In this day and age, I would agree that it probably the case, but I never said it was in THIS decade when it was done.. The early / mid 90's were a lot different than it is right now..

Personally I don't care if you think i'm full of shit or not.. If you think I am, simply put me on your ignore list. Problem solved...

rick, call your backup and find out if they would do the import, then call ibill and see if they are willing to release it, i am sure that screaming and yelling would help convince them to release it :)

then you know for sure

Use a real processor and no setup fees for the rest of the week

http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=367211&s=

Mark

If you can't handle the $1500 to process with a merchant account you should probably leave the industry.

Sorry to rain on your parade, but yes, you can move a database from one processor to another processor, provided the banks involved, the ISO's or IPSPs involved and the card association all approve the move.

Been there done that too Kim, it is definetly possible we did it twice. :)

Mark

I don't think it's a matter of beting able to, or not being able to pay it. It's a matter of principle.. Why should we have to pay for a pseudo merchant account, due to IBill's fuck up..

I mean, hey, if you want to pay $1500 for a "Merchat Account", which you can't use anywhere but IBill, go for it...