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beemk · 10-05-2004, 10:53 AM

100 partnerships gone bad

Donny · 10-05-2004, 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CDSmith
Friendly agreement, from what I know of it. No contract.

Some ongoing decisions in certain projects can't be mapped out in a contract, they have to be made and adjusted and agreed upon on an ongoing basis. That's where problems can happen for any partnership, unless all parties are very easygoing and not control freaks.

And let's say that one partner has lots of money and wants to run expensive contests that the other partner, who has little money, is a little leary of...

...and then let's say that the smaller partner is equally liable for paying for these expenses, although that partner doesn't have any money and the current advertising revenue has not yet begun pouring in...

... and then let's say that smaller partner doesn't want to be in debt up to his eyeballs and so he asks his larger partner for a contract...

...and then let's say that larger partner does not like to be questioned because he's used to be in control so he tells his smaller partner to fuck off and have fun with his board...

In this situation:

What Would Jesus Do?

CDSmith · 10-05-2004, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
I declare fake drama.

Could be. I won't lie, the thought has crossed my mind a few times this morning.

Donny · 10-05-2004, 11:02 AM

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Originally posted by dig420
anytime you're putting money on the table your first priority is to protect your interests beforehand. I'm quite sure Quiet already knows this.

I declare fake drama.

Unfortunately it's not fake.

Jakke PNG · 10-05-2004, 11:03 AM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips

In this situation:

What Would Jesus Do?

He'd smoke pot and sacrifice a lamb.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-05-2004, 11:08 AM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
He'd smoke pot and sacrifice a lamb.

right on..bowls and lamb kabobs on Jesus.

sacX · 10-05-2004, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by CDSmith
Could be. I won't lie, the thought has crossed my mind a few times this morning.

It crosses the line if it's fake.

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-05-2004, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
It crosses the line if it's fake.

it's not fake

eroswebmaster · 10-05-2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by sacX
It crosses the line if it's fake.

Happened so often before...not necessarily with these two but others.

McKracken · 10-05-2004, 11:35 AM

Cheers to all of you!

work it out in a few days instead of the muddsling!

Cheers

Joesho · 10-05-2004, 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
right on..bowls and lamb kabobs on Jesus.

somebody bring the Hummus, and grape leaves....

oh yeah and least not forget about the dancing belly girls too....

ColBigBalls · 10-05-2004, 12:00 PM

JFK · 10-05-2004, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by FUCKuPAYme
What do you expect from board whores.

don't trust anyone and make sure you have everything in writing

If you cant trust them to do a deal on a handshake, why bother in the first place ? That Little piece of paper is not your salvation

MickeyG · 10-05-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally posted by JFK
If you cant trust them to do a deal on a handshake, why bother in the first place ? That Little piece of paper is not your salvation

I'd like to see you tell that to a judge

bdld · 10-05-2004, 12:16 PM

partnerships are bad mmkay, if you want something done right, you do it yourself.

Honeyslut · 10-05-2004, 12:25 PM

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Originally posted by jawanda
QUIET, FLETCH, CHERRY -

You guys need to do a threesome and take pics for Honey.

-p

hehehe

j/k

breaking drama tension...

JFK · 10-05-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by MickeyG
I'd like to see you tell that to a judge

you missed the .

Amputate Your Head. · 10-05-2004, 12:51 PM

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Originally posted by JFK
you missed the .

technically, you did too.

GiantGnome · 10-05-2004, 12:54 PM

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oh yeah and least not forget about the dancing belly girls too....

Dancing belly girls? I dont want to see girls with bellys dance and jiggle.

Ohhhhhhhhhh belly dancing girls. I got it now.

Jakke PNG · 10-05-2004, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by GiantGnome
Dancing belly girls? I dont want to see girls with bellys dance and jiggle.

Ohhhhhhhhhh belly dancing girls. I got it now.

How about if I jiggle my belly?

Joesho · 10-05-2004, 01:08 PM

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Originally posted by TeenGodFather
How about if I jiggle my belly?

NOooooooooooooooooooooo

AaronM · 10-05-2004, 01:33 PM

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Originally posted by DonovanPhillips
Nothing was signed. There was no pre-existing deal. Cherry and Fletch had a board. Quiet wanted to become the next lensman so he invested some money. He wanted them to be minority (by a long shot) partners in their own board. They wanted a better deal. He told them to fuck off instead of talking.

I'm 100% convinced that losing money from the iBill fiasco and just getting out of the hospital is causing a normally-rational businessman to act irrationally.

Like I said...Bad business move. Been there, done that, and I'm still dealing with the bullshit with PIBCash because of it.

As for quiet's possible iBill issues....quiet does not appear to be a stupid person by any stretch of the imagination.....BUT...Perhaps he should have paid more attention to the writing on the wall instead of ignoring it.

We all make mistakes.

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Are you STILL using iBill?

Now may be a good time to consider other options.

That's all I have to say about it for now.

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
400K this month.

pxxx · 10-05-2004, 01:35 PM

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Originally posted by toodamnfli
cheers to the finish line

Your sig is out of this world bro.

Cheers.

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 10-05-2004, 01:37 PM

Knives...

Lots of sharp knives...

GiantGnome · 10-05-2004, 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
How about if I jiggle my belly?

quiet · 10-05-2004, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JFK
If you cant trust them to do a deal on a handshake, why bother in the first place ? That Little piece of paper is not your salvation

hehe. so true.

i have an email where fletch agreed to a payout structure. apparently once this board looked like it was going to take off (and i was in the hospital), they decided they wanted more money. this is before a single ad was sold. the rest is all spin.

i own the software they are currently running (vbul). i own the listing on board tracker. etc, etc... etc.

the money doesn't even bother me at this point (around 7200 USD at the moment). i'd like to see it come back to me, but i sort of doubt it ever will.

it was just amazing to watch someone you thought you could trust, change there minds AFTER agreeing to certain terms.

anyway, for the record - anyone i ever asked/begged/bribed to come post over on dm pm (and that would be several hundred people) - please know that i have absolutely nothing to do with that board/site anymore. i've never asked anyone for any favors in all my years in this biz, until this board. c'est la vie

it would be nice to get back my money. normally i would expect at least that much, but in this case i have no idea. but beyond that, i have no interest anymore. it is 100% theirs, i have no interest in being involved anymore, in any capacity. good luck with your board.

cheers.

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-05-2004, 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TeenGodFather
How about if I jiggle my belly?

I would have to masturbate to that

sacX · 10-05-2004, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe. so true.

i have an email where fletch agreed to a payout structure. apparently once this board looked like it was going to take off (and i was in the hospital), they decided they wanted more money. this is before a single ad was sold. the rest is all spin.

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

Perhaps he was drunk and doesn't remember he agreed?

u don't really sound as cut up about it as they'd have us believe. It's ok you're among friends, feel free to have a little cry..

Joesho · 10-05-2004, 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe. so true.

i have an email where fletch agreed to a payout structure. apparently once this board looked like it was going to take off (and i was in the hospital), they decided they wanted more money. this is before a single ad was sold. the rest is all spin.

i own the software they are currently running (vbul). i own the listing on board tracker. etc, etc... etc.

the money doesn't even bother me at this point (around 7200 USD at the moment). i'd like to see it come back to me, but i sort of doubt it ever will.

it was just amazing to watch someone you thought you could trust, change there minds AFTER agreeing to certain terms.

anyway, for the record - anyone i ever asked/begged/bribed to come post over on dm pm (and that would be several hundred people) - please know that i have absolutely nothing to do with that board/site anymore. i've never asked anyone for any favors in all my years in this biz, until this board. c'est la vie

it would be nice to get back my money. normally i would expect at least that much, but in this case i have no idea. but beyond that, i have no interest anymore. it is 100% theirs, i have no interest in being involved anymore, in any capacity. good luck with your board.

cheers.

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

www.remotethumbs.com would love your sig...

KCat · 10-05-2004, 01:54 PM

If they're asking for more money & you're telling them to fuck off, I hardly see how that could be considered "locking you out". Sounds more like you didn't want to negotiate terms & slammed the door yourself.

Every partnership, or friendship for that matter, is going to have a few ups & downs. Why not try & work it out over a few beers?

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-05-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe. so true.

i have an email where fletch agreed to a payout structure. apparently once this board looked like it was going to take off (and i was in the hospital), they decided they wanted more money. this is before a single ad was sold. the rest is all spin.

i own the software they are currently running (vbul). i own the listing on board tracker. etc, etc... etc.

the money doesn't even bother me at this point (around 7200 USD at the moment). i'd like to see it come back to me, but i sort of doubt it ever will.

it was just amazing to watch someone you thought you could trust, change there minds AFTER agreeing to certain terms.

anyway, for the record - anyone i ever asked/begged/bribed to come post over on dm pm (and that would be several hundred people) - please know that i have absolutely nothing to do with that board/site anymore. i've never asked anyone for any favors in all my years in this biz, until this board. c'est la vie

it would be nice to get back my money. normally i would expect at least that much, but in this case i have no idea. but beyond that, i have no interest anymore. it is 100% theirs, i have no interest in being involved anymore, in any capacity. good luck with your board.

cheers.

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

So I have to ask.. why not pick up the phone and make a phone call instead of bringing this to the boards?

comprimise is key to any relationship..whether it be business or not.

Trixxxia · 10-05-2004, 02:04 PM

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now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;) [/B]

Free? I love free but if you need anything - you just ask. ;)

toddler · 10-05-2004, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dig420
anytime you're putting money on the table your first priority is to protect your interests beforehand. I'm quite sure Quiet already knows this.

I declare fake drama.

oh please. 90%+ of the people here don't have an attorney, let alone can afford contract reviews.

toddler · 10-05-2004, 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MickeyG
I'd like to see you tell that to a judge

you've obviously never been in a contract dispute. I have, contracts are a nice gesture, thats really about it.

tranza · 10-05-2004, 02:28 PM

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Originally posted by $5 submissions
Awesome sig, TDF.

I was going to say the same thing!!

Donny · 10-05-2004, 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
So I have to ask.. why not pick up the phone and make a phone call instead of bringing this to the boards?

comprimise is key to any relationship..whether it be business or not.

Quiet posted in this thread but claimed he didn't read what I wrote. I think he needs to read it:

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...adid=367252&s=

Kimmykim · 10-05-2004, 02:41 PM

Wouldn't it be nice if everyone just minded their own business for a change?

I'm really disappointed that I even read this thread.

stocktrader23 · 10-05-2004, 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
So I have to ask.. why not pick up the phone and make a phone call instead of bringing this to the boards?

comprimise is key to any relationship..whether it be business or not.

I see no good coming from a phonecall. They both seem to agree to disagree and quiet said he wants nothing to do with it so it matters none. I've walked away from a many of deals from similar circumstances.

JSA Matt · 10-05-2004, 02:45 PM

Somehow I saw all this coming and I don't know either of them.... too fucking funny.

Drake · 10-05-2004, 02:47 PM

*puts head down, and coldly stares at nothingness* and utters, "Damn those business partnerships"

C_U_Next_Tuesday · 10-05-2004, 02:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23
I see no good coming from a phonecall. They both seem to agree to disagree and quiet said he wants nothing to do with it so it matters none. I've walked away from a many of deals from similar circumstances.

I never see any good coming from no communication, some people can walk away.. some can communicate

stocktrader23 · 10-05-2004, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by C_U_Next_Tuesday
I never see any good coming from no communication, some people can walk away.. some can communicate

What's the best that will happen, they pretend to be ok with everything? I've been through similar things too many times to count and for my healths sake it's best to never mention it again. ;)

Manowar · 10-05-2004, 02:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

build an affiliate program for your sites and put it there

quiet · 10-05-2004, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Manowar
build an affiliate program for your sites and put it there

hehe, no thanks

stocktrader23 · 10-05-2004, 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe, no thanks

I would give you a url but my sarcasm meter went off when I read that.

speakthetruth · 10-05-2004, 03:05 PM

anyone have taps mp3?

ytcracker · 10-05-2004, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

hahahahahah

you know i love all of you guys
hugs and kisses

OnTime · 10-05-2004, 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by speakthetruth
anyone have taps mp3?

Yup, that board is dead in the water without Quiet. Just watch.

Odin88 · 10-05-2004, 03:09 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by quiet
hehe. so true.

i have an email where fletch agreed to a payout structure. apparently once this board looked like it was going to take off (and i was in the hospital), they decided they wanted more money. this is before a single ad was sold. the rest is all spin.

i own the software they are currently running (vbul). i own the listing on board tracker. etc, etc... etc.

the money doesn't even bother me at this point (around 7200 USD at the moment). i'd like to see it come back to me, but i sort of doubt it ever will.

it was just amazing to watch someone you thought you could trust, change there minds AFTER agreeing to certain terms.

anyway, for the record - anyone i ever asked/begged/bribed to come post over on dm pm (and that would be several hundred people) - please know that i have absolutely nothing to do with that board/site anymore. i've never asked anyone for any favors in all my years in this biz, until this board. c'est la vie

it would be nice to get back my money. normally i would expect at least that much, but in this case i have no idea. but beyond that, i have no interest anymore. it is 100% theirs, i have no interest in being involved anymore, in any capacity. good luck with your board.

cheers.

now, who wants me to put their site in my sig for a couple of years, for free? ;)

Sorry to hear Quite. My prediction is it is a very bad move on their part. With this kind of apparent disloyalty the board won't do so well, and within a few months it will be Fletch, cherry and a few other regulars posting en mass daily. Could be wrong though.

Also, how bout that sig... ;)

irishfury · 10-05-2004, 03:17 PM

best of luck...sorry bout the biz deal gone sour...one of the few people thread I make it a point to read....

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