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eroswebmaster · 10-03-2004, 08:49 PM

Good post Crockett.

For some reason I don't know why..but I always forget about all those other forums on every board I visit...I usually just hit the main ones..but I will definitely look into it.

JSA Matt · 10-03-2004, 08:49 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Well let's not pretend as though it's not happening on all levels from noobies to "industry leaders."

I can't imagine any other industry having the kind of on board pissing matches this industry has so openly on GFY and other boards.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe working for professional companies for many years has skewed my view on how things should be handled...but I just can't imagine CEO's of million dollar companies going on a message board calling a client a scammer...or vice versa.

I guess my point being that if sponsors wouldn't pay people to act inappropriately on this board *in terms of sigs* then others wouldn't see this as a means to some extra income and increase the level of drama in order to stand out amongst the rest of the tards.

I completely agree with you. The only people that are responsible for making this industry what it is are the people that are involved right now. All these fucks creating spyware programs that rip off affiliates (among many other things) are giving the industry as a whole a bad name. It is up to us to change that "image"

eroswebmaster · 10-03-2004, 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I completely agree with you. The only people that are responsible for making this industry what it is are the people that are involved right now. All these fucks creating spyware programs that rip off affiliates (among many other things) are giving the industry as a whole a bad name. It is up to us to change that "image"

Theo · 10-03-2004, 08:53 PM

You can't the bullshiters, but the bullshiters can change you. Do you see what I mean?

eroswebmaster · 10-03-2004, 08:53 PM

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Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
You can't the bullshiters, but the bullshiters can change you. Do you see what I mean?

Yeah I get where you are coming from.

Spunky · 10-03-2004, 08:54 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I completely agree with you. The only people that are responsible for making this industry what it is are the people that are involved right now. All these fucks creating spyware programs that rip off affiliates (among many other things) are giving the industry as a whole a bad name. It is up to us to change that "image"

Hopefully their will be a law for the scumware.I swear each day I have to remove 100 instances of that shit every day.

Easton · 10-03-2004, 08:56 PM

here's an idea... no sigs for anyone unless they are promoting a GFY advertiser... and no pay-per-impression or pay-per-post deals allowed... simple enough

will it happen? of course not...

Tom_PMs · 10-03-2004, 08:57 PM

I'm a real poster and I post real answers or contributions. Unless I'm posting a joke and then it's obvious.
Been around since only 1999 or so, but only joined here because I was tired of just reading it.

Anyway, Soul has a nice point. I'd put it as: you are what you eat ;)

brand0n · 10-03-2004, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by uchase/webpry
headless/brandon/boobmaster ???

hey asshole, i dont know who or what the fuck you are, but get off my nuts. thanks.

btw eros, im still waiting on bullshit to work out on others peoples ends on that project we spoke about. i still want to get something along those lines going.

Easton · 10-03-2004, 09:02 PM

http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...48#post5475948

pxxx · 10-03-2004, 09:06 PM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Well let's not pretend as though it's not happening on all levels from noobies to "industry leaders."

I can't imagine any other industry having the kind of on board pissing matches this industry has so openly on GFY and other boards.

Maybe I'm wrong...maybe working for professional companies for many years has skewed my view on how things should be handled...but I just can't imagine CEO's of million dollar companies going on a message board calling a client a scammer...or vice versa.

I guess my point being that if sponsors wouldn't pay people to act inappropriately on this board *in terms of sigs* then others wouldn't see this as a means to some extra income and increase the level of drama in order to stand out amongst the rest of the tards.

This whole statement here says it all. I totally agree with every part of it. In mainstream alone, their online communities are from from childish as adult's. I am slowly leaving adult, coming back here and there. The industry is good, but its better somewhere else.

One thing this industry lacks a lot of is professionalism.

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:15 PM

Mona and I have been around long enough to remember when Ynot was the only board to post on. There was plenty of 'pissing' there - but it was on a different level.

What bothers me the most on GFY isn't the pissing - it's the level of degradation that gets posted so much. Such as when the U.S. guy got his head cut off, and someone posted a pic of his friends and family, thought one of the females in the pic was hot, and asked if anyone would 'hit it.'

Someone on the outside coming to this board would assume that all of the stereotypes of the industry are true.

I rarely post for this reason. While GFY is definately a place to find things or get the word out on a new product, it's degnerated into an unprofessional cesspool, where your post count apparently measures your credibility.

Easton · 10-03-2004, 09:16 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
Such as when the U.S. guy got his head cut off, and someone posted a pic of his friends and family, thought one of the females in the pic was hot, and asked if anyone would 'hit it.'

typical... that says it all right there

JSA Matt · 10-03-2004, 09:18 PM

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Originally posted by Easton
typical... that says it all right there

like I said in many threads, it is up to us to change this or it will only get worse...

Fake Nick · 10-03-2004, 09:20 PM

just ban all fake nicks and the people that have them,

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:22 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
like I said in many threads, it is up to us to change this or it will only get worse...

I agree in theory, but I'm afraid I don't think that's possible on GFY. The group has spoken up more than once - including those who are 'respected' - and made it clear that they prefer the anarchy and drama.

JSA Matt · 10-03-2004, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
I agree in theory, but I'm afraid I don't think that's possible on GFY. The group has spoken up more than once - including those who are 'respected' - and made it clear that they prefer the anarchy and drama.

I don't care about the so-called "respected" webmasters of this board. there is no "I" in team.

Fake Nick · 10-03-2004, 09:26 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I don't care about the so-called "respected" webmasters of this board. there is no "I" in team.

hi weak link

JSA Matt · 10-03-2004, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by Fake Nick
hi weak link

all I see is titties when I read your babble

mardigras · 10-03-2004, 09:28 PM

GFY is the "bar" of the boards

Fake Nick · 10-03-2004, 09:28 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
all I see is titties when I read your babble

why not quote my titties then ?

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by JSA Matt
I don't care about the so-called "respected" webmasters of this board. there is no "I" in team.

Sure - I don't, you don't - but the 1000s of trolls and surfers who make posting a profession do. Serious webmasters are overwhelmed by numbers - a losing battle. IMO.

graphicsbytia · 10-03-2004, 09:30 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
Mona and I have been around long enough to remember when Ynot was the only board to post on. There was plenty of 'pissing' there - but it was on a different level.

What bothers me the most on GFY isn't the pissing - it's the level of degradation that gets posted so much. Such as when the U.S. guy got his head cut off, and someone posted a pic of his friends and family, thought one of the females in the pic was hot, and asked if anyone would 'hit it.'

Someone on the outside coming to this board would assume that all of the stereotypes of the industry are true.

I rarely post for this reason. While GFY is definately a place to find things or get the word out on a new product, it's degnerated into an unprofessional cesspool, where your post count apparently measures your credibility.

What you said sums up how I feel about this board too..

I don't mind the nonsense posts as much as I do the unbelieveably cruel and tasteless ones.

But... being the business person I am, I overlook all the garbage and get what I want out of the board.

And one other thing that even has ME puzzled a little is..... this is the only board I actually read. The rest of them I visit through hahahahahahahahahahahaha for promotion purposes. I'm not a moron or someone that has too much time on her hands..... so I guess I'll think on that one ....

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:36 PM

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Originally posted by graphicsbytia
What you said sums up how I feel about this board too..

I don't mind the nonsense posts as much as I do the unbelieveably cruel and tasteless ones.

But... being the business person I am, I overlook all the garbage and get what I want out of the board.

And one other thing that even has ME puzzled a little is..... this is the only board I actually read. The rest of them I visit through hahahahahahahahahahahaha for promotion purposes. I'm not a moron or someone that has too much time on her hands..... so I guess I'll think on that one ....

I use the board when I'm looking for resources, such as traffic ops, etc. It's also useful in terms of locating reviews re: hosting, and so on. Brushing aside all the B.S., if someone is ripping people off or providing bad service - it'll be posted about on GFY.

So it's DEFINATELY useful in that regard.

But I'll also go months never touching this board after it gets hit by an avalanche of posts that hit new lows.

When I start feeling like I'm rubbing up against the worst in humanity - I take a long break and come back later. Unfortunately, this has happened on more than one occassion.

graphicsbytia · 10-03-2004, 09:40 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
I use the board when I'm looking for resources, such as traffic ops, etc. It's also useful in terms of locating reviews re: hosting, and so on. Brushing aside all the B.S., if someone is ripping people off or providing bad service - it'll be posted about on GFY.

So it's DEFINATELY useful in that regard.

But I'll also go months never touching this board after it gets hit by an avalanche of posts that hit new lows.

When I start feeling like I'm rubbing up against the worst in humanity - I take a long break and come back later. Unfortunately, this has happened on more than one occassion.

exactly.. just the other day.. someone posted an 18 yr old model, and explained that her mother had brought her in to pose, and how sad that was.

The comments made in that thread by other posters made me feel sick to my stomach.. I left the board for a few days after that one..

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:41 PM

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Originally posted by graphicsbytia
exactly.. just the other day.. someone posted an 18 yr old model, and explained that her mother had brought her in to pose, and how sad that was.

The comments made in that thread by other posters made me feel sick to my stomach.. I left the board for a few days after that one..

I posted in that thread. And I ALMOST swore off GFY permanently and forever. I was physically nauseated.

stocktrader23 · 10-03-2004, 09:48 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
I strongly disagree with you on this point.

Where else can you get as much attention for your marketing efforts from so many people in such a short space of time?

www.thehun.net

graphicsbytia · 10-03-2004, 09:49 PM

you know... one of the problems with troll control is the attention they receive.. which is just what they want..

we only have ourselves to blame for that.. if we stop paying attention to them there's no way they can get what they want here

JSA Matt · 10-03-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
www.thehun.net

lol, true

European Lee · 10-03-2004, 09:50 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23
www.thehun.net

For free?

I dont think so

Regards,

Lee

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally posted by graphicsbytia
you know... one of the problems with troll control is the attention they receive.. which is just what they want..

we only have ourselves to blame for that.. if we stop paying attention to them there's no way they can get what they want here

I agree. Unfortunately, those lines are crossed sometimes by more than just trolls.

One of the most disturbing things on GFY for me isn't the 'shock' posts. It's the degradation of women. Obviously, being in the biz, I don't think being filmed having sex is degrading to women.

But I see posts from webmasters who do - yet here they are. The 'women who do porn are stupid whores - but I'm cool, cuz I'm pimpin' em. Werd.'

I've always hated that crap.

graphicsbytia · 10-03-2004, 10:00 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12
I agree. Unfortunately, those lines are crossed sometimes by more than just trolls.

One of the most disturbing things on GFY for me isn't the 'shock' posts. It's the degradation of women. Obviously, being in the biz, I don't think being filmed having sex is degrading to women.

But I see posts from webmasters who do - yet here they are. The 'women who do porn are stupid whores - but I'm cool, cuz I'm pimpin' em. Werd.'

I've always hated that crap.

but it's the respected people that answer the trolls that are the real problem.. those are the posts these trolls live for

and about the disrespect for women.. I never understood that either, only an idiot bites the hand that feeds

eroswebmaster · 10-03-2004, 10:01 PM

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Originally posted by codymc12

But I see posts from webmasters who do - yet here they are. The 'women who do porn are stupid whores - but I'm cool, cuz I'm pimpin' em. Werd.'

I've always hated that crap.

Hell even a dog knows not to piss/shit where it eats...many of these "webmasters" here can't quite grasp that concept.

codymc12 · 10-03-2004, 10:09 PM

Tia - I do agree regarding the trolls - wholeheartedly. But the bottom line is, as long as you can post anything and get away with it (eg - not get booted from the board), the trolls are here to stay.

Eros - you're right. I think it comes down to a high school mentality. Some people simply have to fit in - and if being a Thug from the suburbs is it - that's what they'll do.

The Other Steve · 10-03-2004, 11:31 PM

On any day and at any time less than 30% of the posts on the first page are worth reading.

I originally came to this board because it was a place to network - then I came back back because it seemed like a good place to pick up work for my partner's business - now we are picking up thousands of dollars worth of work every month from big people in this industry who never come near GFY.

I think quiet was more aware than many of us when he said quite a while ago that this was not a place he came to for business.

smack · 10-03-2004, 11:33 PM

We can't all be winners.

jade_dragon · 10-04-2004, 12:02 AM

When I first got here, it was drastically differant than what I was told it was supposed to be like but I stuck it out to observe. Since I have been here people have done a wonderful job of showing me who is professional and who is not. I have compiled a list of those who carry themselves with dignity and have respect for other people and they receive word of what I am doing and have first dibs on what is going on and it seems they have done the same for me. (this is not to mean if you have not heard of or from me I do not think you are serious or worthy, just have not gotten to you yet)

I treat this board like highschool. I just cruise the halls watching people make fools of themselves and also people grow up and do what they need to do. I see alot of the same mentalites, a lot of the same bullshit attempts at being cool and the best part is watching a lot of cool people egg these guys on like they are on the inside track only to let them know they have been playing themselves.

If we could get everyone who really wanted to do business here to kinda just let the trolls and drama queens play themselves out everything would be ok. What do you have to lose? Takes two to argue.....

NickPapageorgio · 10-04-2004, 06:12 AM

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Originally posted by jade_dragon
Takes two to argue.....

Does not.

neener neener...

I haven't forgot about you btw. Been a fucked up weekend bro. Hit my ICQ when you get time.

polish_aristocrat · 10-04-2004, 06:18 AM

I am a little tired of this board too.....but I still feel a need to post on a board...

quiet · 10-04-2004, 09:54 AM

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Originally posted by polish_aristocrat
I am a little tired of this board too.....but I still feel a need to post on a board...

i'm liking this board more than ever...

the_wizz · 10-04-2004, 10:07 AM

Yea, you want real posts, check the Webmasters Q&A.

You want crap and posting for sig placement. Check this forum.

The W Q&A is a pretty good forum and there are some good posts....

However, this happens on every single board when it hits a certain size.

There's no helping it.

My advice, make more use of your ignore list.

reynold · 10-05-2004, 12:32 AM

why? it is just a graphics.does it really harm you.?

eroswebmaster · 10-05-2004, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by reynold
why? it is just a graphics.does it really harm you.?

WTF are you talking about?

polish_aristocrat · 10-05-2004, 04:05 AM

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Originally posted by reynold
why? it is just a graphics.does it really harm you.?

Steve · 10-05-2004, 05:31 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
LOL now I get the hahahaha...don't worry I'm registered...the problem is some of the biggest fucktards on this board are registered there too.

agreed, half the people on my GFY ignore list are now posting there

what's the fucking point? I STILL dont want to read the shit they have got to say.

CDSmith · 10-05-2004, 05:35 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
If you post under an anonymous nick something you can't post under your biz nick you are a fucking loser

Word.

And I've said that very thing several times over the past two years on this very board.

10-03-2004, 08:48 PM	#51
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10-03-2004, 08:49 PM	#52
eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	Good post Crockett. For some reason I don't know why..but I always forget about all those other forums on every board I visit...I usually just hit the main ones..but I will definitely look into it. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

10-03-2004, 08:56 PM	#58
Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	here's an idea... no sigs for anyone unless they are promoting a GFY advertiser... and no pay-per-impression or pay-per-post deals allowed... simple enough will it happen? of course not... __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

10-03-2004, 08:57 PM	#59
Tom_PMs Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 2,049	I'm a real poster and I post real answers or contributions. Unless I'm posting a joke and then it's obvious. Been around since only 1999 or so, but only joined here because I was tired of just reading it. Anyway, Soul has a nice point. I'd put it as: you are what you eat ;) __________________ You've read it, you can't unread it.

10-03-2004, 09:02 PM	#61
Easton Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,825	http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...48#post5475948 __________________ New models booked and shot every week... MILFs, pornstars and teens. Girls for every niche and project. Looking for high-quality affordable exclusive content? Check me out at Easton Content for all the details.

10-03-2004, 08:53 PM	#55
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	You can't the bullshiters, but the bullshiters can change you. Do you see what I mean?

10-03-2004, 09:15 PM	#63
codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	Mona and I have been around long enough to remember when Ynot was the only board to post on. There was plenty of 'pissing' there - but it was on a different level. What bothers me the most on GFY isn't the pissing - it's the level of degradation that gets posted so much. Such as when the U.S. guy got his head cut off, and someone posted a pic of his friends and family, thought one of the females in the pic was hot, and asked if anyone would 'hit it.' Someone on the outside coming to this board would assume that all of the stereotypes of the industry are true. I rarely post for this reason. While GFY is definately a place to find things or get the word out on a new product, it's degnerated into an unprofessional cesspool, where your post count apparently measures your credibility.

10-03-2004, 09:20 PM	#66
Fake Nick So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: go troll goo! Posts: 7,708	just ban all fake nicks and the people that have them,

10-03-2004, 09:28 PM	#71
mardigras Bon temps! Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: down yonder Posts: 14,194	GFY is the "bar" of the boards __________________ .

10-03-2004, 09:49 PM	#79
graphicsbytia Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Tennessee Posts: 2,618	you know... one of the problems with troll control is the attention they receive.. which is just what they want.. we only have ourselves to blame for that.. if we stop paying attention to them there's no way they can get what they want here

10-03-2004, 10:09 PM	#85
codymc12 Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 719	Tia - I do agree regarding the trolls - wholeheartedly. But the bottom line is, as long as you can post anything and get away with it (eg - not get booted from the board), the trolls are here to stay. Eros - you're right. I think it comes down to a high school mentality. Some people simply have to fit in - and if being a Thug from the suburbs is it - that's what they'll do.

10-03-2004, 11:31 PM	#86
The Other Steve Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sunny Queensland - perfect one day and better the next. Posts: 2,106	On any day and at any time less than 30% of the posts on the first page are worth reading. I originally came to this board because it was a place to network - then I came back back because it seemed like a good place to pick up work for my partner's business - now we are picking up thousands of dollars worth of work every month from big people in this industry who never come near GFY. I think quiet was more aware than many of us when he said quite a while ago that this was not a place he came to for business. __________________ Left intentionally blank ... just like my brain

10-03-2004, 11:33 PM	#87
smack Push Porn Like Weight. Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Inside .NET Posts: 10,652	We can't all be winners. __________________ Cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war.

10-04-2004, 12:02 AM	#88
jade_dragon Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: NEW ORLEANS/Baton Rouge BABY! Posts: 1,737	When I first got here, it was drastically differant than what I was told it was supposed to be like but I stuck it out to observe. Since I have been here people have done a wonderful job of showing me who is professional and who is not. I have compiled a list of those who carry themselves with dignity and have respect for other people and they receive word of what I am doing and have first dibs on what is going on and it seems they have done the same for me. (this is not to mean if you have not heard of or from me I do not think you are serious or worthy, just have not gotten to you yet) I treat this board like highschool. I just cruise the halls watching people make fools of themselves and also people grow up and do what they need to do. I see alot of the same mentalites, a lot of the same bullshit attempts at being cool and the best part is watching a lot of cool people egg these guys on like they are on the inside track only to let them know they have been playing themselves. If we could get everyone who really wanted to do business here to kinda just let the trolls and drama queens play themselves out everything would be ok. What do you have to lose? Takes two to argue..... __________________ even ADULTS need TOYS icq: 3 6 3 2 6 6 6 7 \| aim: conglomorateman open for business, affiliates and friendships

10-04-2004, 06:18 AM	#90
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	I am a little tired of this board too.....but I still feel a need to post on a board... __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

10-04-2004, 10:07 AM	#92
the_wizz Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: hmmm..... Posts: 1,633	Yea, you want real posts, check the Webmasters Q&A. You want crap and posting for sig placement. Check this forum. The W Q&A is a pretty good forum and there are some good posts.... However, this happens on every single board when it hits a certain size. There's no helping it. My advice, make more use of your ignore list. __________________ Promote the Best

10-05-2004, 12:32 AM	#93
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	why? it is just a graphics.does it really harm you.?