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European Lee · 10-02-2004, 11:29 AM

More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

Regards,

Lee

AndrewKanuck · 10-02-2004, 11:30 AM

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Originally posted by European Lee
More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

Regards,

Lee

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Jakke PNG · 10-02-2004, 11:33 AM

As far as I know, they do have. Choker was asking for stuff related to paysites not too long ago, and I believe others have too.

johndoebob · 10-02-2004, 11:38 AM

Content is king for target traffic, traded traffic isn't king, you can just milk it through huge daily amounts that are passing through your sites.

Doc911 · 10-02-2004, 12:25 PM

Most TGP owners have pay sites and or merchadise sites.

Juicy D. Links · 10-02-2004, 12:26 PM

Lee is a fruit

European Lee · 10-02-2004, 12:44 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Lee is a fruit

Hey man hows momma Juice doing?

Regards,

Lee

Paul Markham · 10-02-2004, 02:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

Regards,

Lee

Some of them do and some them don't, very good point though.

pornguy · 10-02-2004, 02:02 PM

I have both. about 16 pay sites and 2 tgp sites.

SleazyDream · 10-02-2004, 02:03 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

Regards,

Lee

if you HAD a clue you'd know most big ones do.

GTS Mark · 10-02-2004, 02:13 PM

I have a network of deluxepass sites, I wanted to get my feet wet with this kind of paysite management before I invested big bucks into a paysite operation.

DH

Paul Markham · 10-02-2004, 02:16 PM

Business is about getting three elements right.

Product, Delivery and Marketing.

In this case;

Content = What is inside the site.

Delivery = Site design, structure, program.

Marketing - Traffic, surfers to see your site.

For me traffic is King, I have all the content I need and can deliver it. I need TRAFFIC. This also applies to people like Quiet and Lightspeed.

Fro a TGP site owner thinking of opening a paysite Content is King, he has his traffic now he needs to show them something. For both of us delivery is important.

But for a webmaster (I use this as an example) who has been driving traffic for a few years and has his own content, Delivery is King. He may be use to showing one page he now has to show a site.

Some will tell you one is ALWAYS King and use as an example, if you had great A and no B, you would not make a sign up. Well that is true, so I use A & B.

Or if you have great A and crap C you will still make money, true but how much more will you make by having great A, B & C?

fris · 10-02-2004, 02:16 PM

Maybe they do, you just dont know about it

Regards,

Lee

KRL · 10-02-2004, 02:18 PM

Its real easy Lee. Some people don't like to work and deal with all the hassles or operating sites.

Its easier to just do a deal and be done with it and get a check.

Simple and fast.

Meloman · 10-02-2004, 02:19 PM

Paysites can have a lot of overhead. I've always found it easier and more profitabable for me to just sell my traffic to affiliate programs.

Rich · 10-02-2004, 02:21 PM

Not everyone who is great at generating traffic is great an creating and maintaining paysites. You have to focus on your strengths. If you're a traffic pro but have no experience running paysites, you're probably better off using good sponsors and concentrating your time on generating more traffic.

the Shemp · 10-02-2004, 02:24 PM

- our best traffic goes to our own sites and the prepaid advertisers
- after that it goes to the affiliate type programs
- then whats left over, we sell off to the brokers, who resell it to the newbie webmasters ;)

RicardoB · 10-02-2004, 03:31 PM

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Originally posted by European Lee
More traffic brokers, tgp, link list owners have their own paysites?

Regards,

Lee

Because we don't need the hassle that comes with a paysite?

ListYourPorn · 10-02-2004, 03:55 PM

Very interesting thread,

I have a LL which takes around 10K (+/- 1000) visits per day.

I have started selling spots to people as to be frank they can make better pages then me - by this they have sussed the way of the web. So for me its better to sell the space I would otherwise have a sponsor link.

Most of my income is generated from payment processing business I place with partners and banks. I only started a LL to learn how adult WM's and programes work etc and never once exspected to auctually sell something.

Markhan is right is about focusing on what you can do, how many of us have spent 2/3 days trying to do something which a guy on this board could have done in an hour for $100.

What I would like in the long term is a paysite though from speaking with 100's of WM over the years many say its a lot of work for the return and indeed many have just sold off their paysites and moved over to products.

My focus going forward is going to be selling space on my hub and finding unhappy people who wish to ditch their processor.

good thread / post EU Lee

Basic_man · 10-02-2004, 05:46 PM

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Originally posted by juicylinks
Lee is a fruit

a Juicy fruit !

Paul Markham · 10-02-2004, 10:34 PM

Here's another question

I the traffic from TGP sites was so good why doesn't the site owner just sign up as a sponsor fill the free part with his own pages?

No cheaters, complete control over whats published and he earns money from his own free links.

KCat · 10-02-2004, 11:00 PM

Great points have already been made so far, but I would add that some don't want the hassle of maintaining a paysite. Much easier to take the $35 sale & not worry about shooting or contracting exclusive content, updates, tech support for members etc.

Thor · 10-03-2004, 01:01 AM

they do

FlyingIguana · 10-03-2004, 01:21 AM

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Originally posted by charly
Here's another question

I the traffic from TGP sites was so good why doesn't the site owner just sign up as a sponsor fill the free part with his own pages?

No cheaters, complete control over whats published and he earns money from his own free links.

its not his strength, plus less variety for surfers.

Paul Markham · 10-03-2004, 01:40 AM

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Originally posted by FlyingIguana
its not his strength, plus less variety for surfers.

well it's not brain surgery and I assume he would know something about it, running a TGP page.

Who says the site has to be 100% his links?

FlyingIguana · 10-03-2004, 01:50 AM

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Originally posted by charly
well it's not brain surgery and I assume he would know something about it, running a TGP page.

Who says the site has to be 100% his links?

sure its not hard but he might only be able to make a certain amount building his own pages whereas he could sell those spots for more to others who can convert better for whatever reason.

arg · 10-03-2004, 09:32 AM

The owner of sublimedirectory, sublimethumbs & teeniefiles has a few paysites. Same with bangthumbs' owner.

10-02-2004, 11:29 AM	#1
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Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Business is about getting three elements right. Product, Delivery and Marketing. In this case; Content = What is inside the site. Delivery = Site design, structure, program. Marketing - Traffic, surfers to see your site. For me traffic is King, I have all the content I need and can deliver it. I need TRAFFIC. This also applies to people like Quiet and Lightspeed. Fro a TGP site owner thinking of opening a paysite Content is King, he has his traffic now he needs to show them something. For both of us delivery is important. But for a webmaster (I use this as an example) who has been driving traffic for a few years and has his own content, Delivery is King. He may be use to showing one page he now has to show a site. Some will tell you one is ALWAYS King and use as an example, if you had great A and no B, you would not make a sign up. Well that is true, so I use A & B. Or if you have great A and crap C you will still make money, true but how much more will you make by having great A, B & C? __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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Meloman Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Sacramento,CA Posts: 1,540	Paysites can have a lot of overhead. I've always found it easier and more profitabable for me to just sell my traffic to affiliate programs.

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Rich So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 11,486	Not everyone who is great at generating traffic is great an creating and maintaining paysites. You have to focus on your strengths. If you're a traffic pro but have no experience running paysites, you're probably better off using good sponsors and concentrating your time on generating more traffic.

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the Shemp congrats to the winners Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Echo Beach Posts: 10,891	- our best traffic goes to our own sites and the prepaid advertisers - after that it goes to the affiliate type programs - then whats left over, we sell off to the brokers, who resell it to the newbie webmasters ;) __________________ i use Vacares...so should you Submit your picture galleries to my site...Outlaw TGP

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ListYourPorn Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 791	Very interesting thread, I have a LL which takes around 10K (+/- 1000) visits per day. I have started selling spots to people as to be frank they can make better pages then me - by this they have sussed the way of the web. So for me its better to sell the space I would otherwise have a sponsor link. Most of my income is generated from payment processing business I place with partners and banks. I only started a LL to learn how adult WM's and programes work etc and never once exspected to auctually sell something. Markhan is right is about focusing on what you can do, how many of us have spent 2/3 days trying to do something which a guy on this board could have done in an hour for $100. What I would like in the long term is a paysite though from speaking with 100's of WM over the years many say its a lot of work for the return and indeed many have just sold off their paysites and moved over to products. My focus going forward is going to be selling space on my hub and finding unhappy people who wish to ditch their processor. good thread / post EU Lee __________________ Sex Add your sites Click Here

10-02-2004, 10:34 PM	#21
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Here's another question I the traffic from TGP sites was so good why doesn't the site owner just sign up as a sponsor fill the free part with his own pages? No cheaters, complete control over whats published and he earns money from his own free links. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70

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KCat Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: PNW Posts: 2,204	Great points have already been made so far, but I would add that some don't want the hassle of maintaining a paysite. Much easier to take the $35 sale & not worry about shooting or contracting exclusive content, updates, tech support for members etc. __________________ ~ 300+ FHGs, 100,000 pics to use plus a rockin' Video of the Day download! ~

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10-03-2004, 09:32 AM	#27
arg Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 1,164	The owner of sublimedirectory, sublimethumbs & teeniefiles has a few paysites. Same with bangthumbs' owner.