Fag... Is fag an offensive term - GoFuckYourself.com

Jdoughs · 09-30-2004, 09:34 PM

All right i understand that fag in its basic use is pretty derogatory.

But im very curious what people think about it ( i mean gay people). I mean, i think nothing to laugh and call one of my friends a fag for being compulsive about his hair or something. And this is something many of us do from a young age.

I spoke on the phone with someone from the business tonight and his thoughts were that the term "fag" was probably frowned upon by gay surfers.

Is the word Fag a hurtful word towards gay men? I only personally know 3 and the answer from them was "fuck off..thats stupid"

Any thoughts? If not carry on with political banter and milkshake videos.

AndrewKanuck · 09-30-2004, 09:34 PM

fag is offensive to fags maybe... *shrugs*

Fabuleux · 09-30-2004, 09:37 PM

I don't use the word in my gay gallery descriptions for that reason

Spunky · 09-30-2004, 09:37 PM

No poo packer,butt pirate, rump ranger are offensive..

mardigras · 09-30-2004, 09:43 PM

It would be inappropriate to approach a group of gay guys and say to one of them, "Hey fag, what time is it?"

Rochard · 09-30-2004, 09:44 PM

I am a Polack.

Some people take great offense as being called a Polack. Oh fucking well. You are what you are.

I think the name "fag" was a bad thing twenty years ago. Then again, twenty years ago we considiered anyone who was gay to be "bad". Not so any more. It's pretty much mainstream now.

emthree · 09-30-2004, 09:47 PM

You do not belong in the gay webmastering world, ok?

Spunky · 09-30-2004, 09:48 PM

It's not offensive in the UK

Turboface · 09-30-2004, 09:52 PM

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Originally posted by spunky
It's not offensive in the UK

Same with Ireland, and I guess all of Europe. If someone over there asks you for a fag, they're asking for a cigarette.

Jdoughs · 09-30-2004, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by emthree
You do not belong in the gay webmastering world, ok?

chill fag thats why im askin

Bigjohn · 09-30-2004, 10:49 PM

I think the politically correct term is.... cigarette

Mike Okitch · 09-30-2004, 11:22 PM

Fag is a word.

And no matter how hard you try, words will always please some and offend others.

That being said, I have seen posters advertising "Fag night" at a local gay club. I hardly see why one of the most popular night clubs in the gay community would use such word if it was offensive.

I say go ahead and try it out. Some people will get pissed off but that will happen no matter what you do and you can't please everyone. If it gets to be too much, you'll know.

lazycash · 09-30-2004, 11:24 PM

My presumption is that it's offensive to most homosexuals. I recently was going to bid on a nice expiring domain with "fag" in it, but basically decided that if I was going to use it to market to the gay niche that I would be turning many of them off rather than on.

Dawgy · 09-30-2004, 11:29 PM

for marketing porn, its not going to do u any good.

as for daily life, its sort of like ni**er and blacks. theyll call each other that all day long, but as soon as a white guy says it, he's dead meat.

thats about the only way i can explain it simply.

99% of the time when someone says fag, they are saying in a derrogatory way. like you said, joking about something a friend did that you think is stupid. thats basically calling gay people stupid, because youre saying he's a fag for being so stupid. silly, but u get my point?

i also think history has a lot to do with it. if people had used the word fag 30 years ago in an affectionate way, not in a derrogatory way, it would have a different meaning today.

Holly Lez! · 09-30-2004, 11:31 PM

I would not use the word "Fag" to market to gay surfers especially if you are straight. I guess a good rule of thumb is if you are not sure a word is offensive dont use it.....

Gynecologist · 10-01-2004, 12:47 AM

It is like the word "fag". You gotta be a fag to use the word fag.

Unless you are in the UK where a fag is a cig.

jade_dragon · 10-01-2004, 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
for marketing porn, its not going to do u any good.

as for daily life, its sort of like ni**er and blacks. theyll call each other that all day long, but as soon as a white guy says it, he's dead meat.

thats about the only way i can explain it simply.

99% of the time when someone says fag, they are saying in a derrogatory way. like you said, joking about something a friend did that you think is stupid. thats basically calling gay people stupid, because youre saying he's a fag for being so stupid. silly, but u get my point?

i also think history has a lot to do with it. if people had used the word fag 30 years ago in an affectionate way, not in a derrogatory way, it would have a different meaning today.

I do not know many blacks that call each other n*gger, usually if they do it is making fun of white people or to get a laugh. I believe the word you are looking for is nigga. But you are on the right track, it is the origin and tonation of the word usage not the word itself so much it seems

Fukeneh · 10-01-2004, 12:58 AM

i dont think its offensive.

i call lots of people fags.

steve90 · 10-01-2004, 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fukeneh
i dont think its offensive.

i call lots of people fags.

Ya and you call them a fag as an insult so it is offensive

Centurion · 10-01-2004, 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dawgy
for marketing porn, its not going to do u any good.

as for daily life, its sort of like ni**er and blacks. theyll call each other that all day long, but as soon as a white guy says it, he's dead meat.

thats about the only way i can explain it simply.

99% of the time when someone says fag, they are saying in a derrogatory way. like you said, joking about something a friend did that you think is stupid. thats basically calling gay people stupid, because youre saying he's a fag for being so stupid. silly, but u get my point?

i also think history has a lot to do with it. if people had used the word fag 30 years ago in an affectionate way, not in a derrogatory way, it would have a different meaning today.

What he said.

Seriously!

Jdoughs · 10-01-2004, 11:30 AM

Interesting replies. I wasnt so curious about using it for marketing (allthough i was curious) but more interested in some of the gay webmasters input on whether or not it is concidered offensive ar just another word by there gay surfers.

Not on a marketing level but on a personal level. (yes i know it boils down to the same shit)

Bugbee · 10-01-2004, 11:37 AM

I think it can be kind of offensive if you do not like cock

lesbodojo · 10-01-2004, 12:28 PM

I find it pretty offensive when it's used by people who are not embrassing it as a term that's been used against them. For gay and transgendered people, I'm ok with it. It's all about history and empowerment, though.

People who don't understand it in a personal way, shouldn't be using it.

BigasMoe · 10-01-2004, 12:33 PM

I don't think fag in offensive but if someone says " You Fag Ass Bitch" now those are ground to get your ass choked

European Lee · 10-01-2004, 12:35 PM

[sarcasm] No i think you should use that term on all of your marketing materials aimed at gay surfers ;) [/sarcasm]

Itll leave more money on the table for the rest of us then

Regards,

Lee

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Jdoughs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 5,794	Fag... Is fag an offensive term All right i understand that fag in its basic use is pretty derogatory. But im very curious what people think about it ( i mean gay people). I mean, i think nothing to laugh and call one of my friends a fag for being compulsive about his hair or something. And this is something many of us do from a young age. I spoke on the phone with someone from the business tonight and his thoughts were that the term "fag" was probably frowned upon by gay surfers. Is the word Fag a hurtful word towards gay men? I only personally know 3 and the answer from them was "fuck off..thats stupid" Any thoughts? If not carry on with political banter and milkshake videos. __________________ LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250 Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month. AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!

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AndrewKanuck Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Cleveland & Atlanta Posts: 6,706	fag is offensive to fags maybe... shrugs __________________

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Spunky I need a beer Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: ♠ Toiletville ♠ Posts: 133,943	It's not offensive in the UK __________________ *YOUR INFORMATION HERE*

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Bigjohn Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Deep inside my mind Posts: 1,118	I think the politically correct term is.... cigarette

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Mike Okitch Confirmed User Join Date: May 2004 Location: Guantanamo Bay, Cuba Posts: 4,126	Fag is a word. And no matter how hard you try, words will always please some and offend others. That being said, I have seen posters advertising "Fag night" at a local gay club. I hardly see why one of the most popular night clubs in the gay community would use such word if it was offensive. I say go ahead and try it out. Some people will get pissed off but that will happen no matter what you do and you can't please everyone. If it gets to be too much, you'll know. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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lazycash Troll Patrol Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Local Socal Posts: 15,214	My presumption is that it's offensive to most homosexuals. I recently was going to bid on a nice expiring domain with "fag" in it, but basically decided that if I was going to use it to market to the gay niche that I would be turning many of them off rather than on. __________________ "WTF, on google you can find the answer to every question in human history, EXCEPT how to convert cams.. Its crazy..." VenusBlogger

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Dawgy Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 5,856	for marketing porn, its not going to do u any good. as for daily life, its sort of like ni*er and blacks. theyll call each other that all day long, but as soon as a white guy says it, he's dead meat. thats about the only way i can explain it simply. 99% of the time when someone says fag, they are saying in a derrogatory way. like you said, joking about something a friend did that you think is stupid. thats basically calling gay people stupid, because youre saying he's a fag for being so stupid. silly, but u get my point? i also think history has a lot to do with it. if people had used the word fag 30 years ago in an affectionate way, not in a derrogatory way, it would have a different meaning today. __________________ the revolution is coming. Last edited by Dawgy; 09-30-2004 at 11:30 PM..*

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Holly Lez! She's back Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 3,480	I would not use the word "Fag" to market to gay surfers especially if you are straight. I guess a good rule of thumb is if you are not sure a word is offensive dont use it..... __________________ [email protected] Skype: hollyruprecht

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Gynecologist Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,184	It is like the word "fag". You gotta be a fag to use the word fag. Unless you are in the UK where a fag is a cig.

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Fukeneh Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Location: Location: Posts: 1,245	i dont think its offensive. i call lots of people fags.

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Jdoughs Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 5,794	Interesting replies. I wasnt so curious about using it for marketing (allthough i was curious) but more interested in some of the gay webmasters input on whether or not it is concidered offensive ar just another word by there gay surfers. Not on a marketing level but on a personal level. (yes i know it boils down to the same shit) __________________ LinkSpun - Premier Adult Link Trading Community - ICQ - 464/\281/\250 Be Seen By New Webmasters/Affiliates * Target out webmasters/affiliates based on niches your sites are for less than $20 a month. AmeriNOC - Proudly hosted @ AmeriNOC!

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lesbodojo Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: San Francisco Posts: 2,839	I find it pretty offensive when it's used by people who are not embrassing it as a term that's been used against them. For gay and transgendered people, I'm ok with it. It's all about history and empowerment, though. People who don't understand it in a personal way, shouldn't be using it. __________________ Adult DVDs + Amateur Video Mobile Porn (iPad, Android, iPhone, + Palm Pre) Promote SkinVideo! Payoneer Payouts Available! Let's talk! icq 328.047.782 aim/yim/skype: lesbodojo or lesbodojo at skinvideo dot com

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European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	[sarcasm] No i think you should use that term on all of your marketing materials aimed at gay surfers ;) [/sarcasm] Itll leave more money on the table for the rest of us then Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT