ATTN: SHORT your MERCK Stock!!!! - GoFuckYourself.com

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:30 AM

Short and sell your merck stock. And do it fast..

If your mutual fund has it and your manager wants to "ride it out" fire him and move elsewhere.

Tell em boneprone told you to short, and you thus need to short..

The company is done, and wont be able to recover..

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:34 AM

Wanna stock to buy??

Buy Pfizer Inc..

Buy it NOW...............

Promised short term if not long term return with its competiton gone..

But fuck..

You gotta do this fast..

ITs not hype.. Reality is gunna set in within the next few days..

Get in now..

Mark this thread and watch in 2 weeks from now what happens..

Hell mark this thread and watch what happens in 2 days.

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:36 AM

as of right now PFE is at 30.60 (Pfizer Inc)

MRK (Merck) 35.45

matthewC · 09-30-2004, 10:36 AM

your talking to kids who instead of putting their money into investments in stocks they waste it on partying and booze and drugs

lol

go say this to yahoo groups

TonyL · 09-30-2004, 10:37 AM

Yes and Yes

-Tony

sacX · 09-30-2004, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
as of right now PFE is at 30.60 (Pfizer Inc)

MRK (Merck) 35.45

there's an outside chance if vioxx is withdrawn, then scrutiny will go hard on celebrex, and it might also have to be withdrawn.

Juicy D. Links · 09-30-2004, 10:40 AM

word up

sacX · 09-30-2004, 10:43 AM

oh and you can't short your own stock

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:46 AM

A connection I have with merck just told me that entire departments and ventures are closing and on hold..

This is bad.. Training for a particualr position he was moving into is on hold and perhaps canceled altogether.. He's one of thier top guys in this particualr field which is pretty specfic in nature and according to him, not only is wall street in a panic, the company itself and all its managers and big boys are equally in a panic.

Soo much has already been canceled and put on hold..

This is all happening so fast its amazing.

Waking up in the morning loosing a 3 billion dollar a year product will do it I guess.

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
there's an outside chance if vioxx is withdrawn, then scrutiny will go hard on celebrex, and it might also have to be withdrawn.

Difficult to tell.

Drugs are pulled all the time, not to offten to they take out all meds int he same catagory. These drugs may be in the same catagory but that doesnt mean all drugs in the catagory are having the same effects.

Pretty slim chance..

FDA didnt pull the Vioxx, Merck pulled it.

Celebrex isnt about to pull thier product now.

Also the FDA has been warning Merck and the public for a while now of its ties to heart attacks. Something that hasnt been mentioned by the FDA with Celebrex..

There was bad news in the pipeline for Vioxx for a while now. They must have seen the FDA coming and took it off before the FDA would. The warnings have been there.

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by sacX
oh and you can't short your own stock

Post:
"Short and sell your merck stock"

AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE · 09-30-2004, 10:57 AM

Hummm.

Never bought em in the first place.

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ATL_Ryan · 09-30-2004, 10:59 AM

What's the problem with Vioxx?

sacX · 09-30-2004, 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Post:
"Short and sell your merck stock"

Topic: ATTN: SHORT your MERCK Stock!!!!

heh anyway I bet Pfizer won't be funding more studies with Celebrex to find new uses for it.

NoCarrier · 09-30-2004, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by CJ_Ryan
What's the problem with Vioxx?

"US pharmaceutical giant Merck announced a global withdrawal of its blockbuster arthritis drug Vioxx after a study showed it increased the risk for strokes and heart attacks."

".. After 18 months of treatment, the data showed increased relative risk for cardiovascular events, such as heart attack and stroke."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...k_040930174214

HizAzPhun · 09-30-2004, 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boneprone
Difficult to tell.

Drugs are pulled all the time, not to offten to they take out all meds int he same catagory. These drugs may be in the same catagory but that doesnt mean all drugs in the catagory are having the same effects.

Pretty slim chance..

FDA didnt pull the Vioxx, Merck pulled it.

Celebrex isnt about to pull thier product now.

Also the FDA has been warning Merck and the public for a while now of its ties to heart attacks. Something that hasnt been mentioned by the FDA with Celebrex..

There was bad news in the pipeline for Vioxx for a while now. They must have seen the FDA coming and took it off before the FDA would. The warnings have been there.

You're exactly right in that Merck pulled it to avoid an FDA-enforced recall.

What you may not know, however, is that Merck is busy as hell working to get FDA approval for their new drug, Arcoxia, which will either be their saving grace or their last ditch effort. I am working on an ad campaign for the drug as we speak, and it looks to me like they are doing it right ... putting it in front of as many doctors as is financially / techologically possible.

The other plus they have on their side is that we started working on this campaign (I play a very small third party roll, of course) over a month ago.

We had been planning for several months to do a project involving Vioxx, and everything was on schedule until a month ago when they called us and said "Sorry, change of plans, we have no room in our budget for ANY of the projects we've been discussing which involve Vioxx". At the time it made no sense and we were blown away ... this morning it all came clear.

Please don't quote me on any of this.

I'll deny it.

Look for Arcoxia in the news tomorrow AM.

PornGeneral · 09-30-2004, 11:16 AM

Boneprone is right, I have a friend who works for Merck... He hasn't said much but "NOT NOT GOOD"!

Jace · 09-30-2004, 11:22 AM

my sister in law is a pharm rep for merck, she told me almost 6 months ago that she might be in need of a new job around this time

makes you wonder how long ago they knew about this

boneprone · 09-30-2004, 11:25 AM

My Cat is Pissed he wont get his Vioxx anymore.

sacX · 09-30-2004, 11:26 AM

The reason i think the problem would potentially affect celebrex and any new anti-COX 2 inhibitors is because is exactly because of it's mechanism

COX-2 inhibitors like celebrex, and vioxx inhibit a specific enzyme cyclooxygenase but they inhibit a specific form of it, the result is LESS chance of gastrointestinal bleeding, so it's safer for something like arthritis.

Good old fashion aspirin inhibits cyclooxygenase too, but it's not specific, as a result there are bleeding risks, a lot of people get bleeding ulcers and a lot of people do die from it..

HOWEVER this thinning of the blood prevents clots from forming and decreases the rate of heart attacks. It's huge, and millions of people are on aspirin exactly for this fact.

The reason people in these trials had an increased risk of heart attacks is because they weren't getting the blood thinning effect.

Anyway you cut it, I'm fairly sure cox-2 inhibitors in older age groups (those most likely with arthritis) is doomed.

pood · 09-30-2004, 03:17 PM

HAHAH, I KNEW IT

i predicted last year that Merck is gonna go down soon, HAHAHA
FUCKING KNEW IT

it's short-term was pretty good, but their long-term was pretty grim

Nicky · 09-30-2004, 03:27 PM

wow, I wish I had the money to get into US stock market.......im bussy with the Swedish

Babagirls · 09-30-2004, 03:47 PM

good thing i never bought that shit in the first place. heh.

09-30-2004, 10:30 AM	#1
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09-30-2004, 10:34 AM	#2
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	Wanna stock to buy?? Buy Pfizer Inc.. Buy it NOW............... Promised short term if not long term return with its competiton gone.. But fuck.. You gotta do this fast.. ITs not hype.. Reality is gunna set in within the next few days.. Get in now.. Mark this thread and watch in 2 weeks from now what happens.. Hell mark this thread and watch what happens in 2 days. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

09-30-2004, 10:36 AM	#3
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	as of right now PFE is at 30.60 (Pfizer Inc) MRK (Merck) 35.45 __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

09-30-2004, 10:46 AM	#9
boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	A connection I have with merck just told me that entire departments and ventures are closing and on hold.. This is bad.. Training for a particualr position he was moving into is on hold and perhaps canceled altogether.. He's one of thier top guys in this particualr field which is pretty specfic in nature and according to him, not only is wall street in a panic, the company itself and all its managers and big boys are equally in a panic. Soo much has already been canceled and put on hold.. This is all happening so fast its amazing. Waking up in the morning loosing a 3 billion dollar a year product will do it I guess. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

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boneprone Hall Of Fame Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Portland Oregon USA Posts: 34,415	My Cat is Pissed he wont get his Vioxx anymore. __________________ Industry Hall Of Fame Legend Mike Jones Bow to the Power - Still BP4L http://gfyawards.com/hall-of-fame Learn about it kids.

09-30-2004, 11:26 AM	#20
sacX Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: New Zealand Posts: 2,998	The reason i think the problem would potentially affect celebrex and any new anti-COX 2 inhibitors is because is exactly because of it's mechanism COX-2 inhibitors like celebrex, and vioxx inhibit a specific enzyme cyclooxygenase but they inhibit a specific form of it, the result is LESS chance of gastrointestinal bleeding, so it's safer for something like arthritis. Good old fashion aspirin inhibits cyclooxygenase too, but it's not specific, as a result there are bleeding risks, a lot of people get bleeding ulcers and a lot of people do die from it.. HOWEVER this thinning of the blood prevents clots from forming and decreases the rate of heart attacks. It's huge, and millions of people are on aspirin exactly for this fact. The reason people in these trials had an increased risk of heart attacks is because they weren't getting the blood thinning effect. Anyway you cut it, I'm fairly sure cox-2 inhibitors in older age groups (those most likely with arthritis) is doomed.

09-30-2004, 03:17 PM	#21
pood Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Seattle Posts: 1,609	HAHAH, I KNEW IT i predicted last year that Merck is gonna go down soon, HAHAHA FUCKING KNEW IT it's short-term was pretty good, but their long-term was pretty grim

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