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Old 09-28-2004, 10:13 AM   #1
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I'm a fiscal conservative / social liberal. Who do I vote for?

Bush or Kerry?
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:22 AM   #2
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heh well.. I'd say Kerry..

Because Bush is neither fiscally conservative or socially liberal.

Kerry is at least socially liberal..
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:23 AM   #3
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Perhaps you could hope for a democratic Pres, and a republican congress, that did good things for the budget in the 90's.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:23 AM   #4
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the one you hate least.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:32 AM   #5
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you got a choice, you can go with the "tax and spenders", or with the "don't tax, but spend like mad anyway" party.
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:33 AM   #6
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I'm in the same boat man and this time I'm voting for Kerry...


Bush pissed me off on too many issues to let him ride another 4...
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Old 09-28-2004, 10:35 AM   #7
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IPK, please please please vote for Kerry.
It's time for a change.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:12 AM   #8
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Or do something even more different and vote for Michael Badnarik.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:14 AM   #9
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I have same problem - It always comes down to fear of socialism for me... so I usually shoot for Republican.
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:14 AM   #10
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fuck bush vote for kerry
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Old 09-28-2004, 11:14 AM   #11
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Or do something even more different and vote for Michael Badnarik.
Badnarik is the definition of fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:17 PM   #12
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Badnarik is the definition of fiscally conservative and socially liberal.
Yes, but if he doesn't have a chance to be President then that's not going to help you a whole bunch.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:41 PM   #13
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If we had a competative 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' party I am sure they would win by a landslide ... and todays 'republican party' (radical evangelicals being propped up by the business sector) would never wield power again.

But our system is flawed and it's not possible for 3rd partys to be competative. Unless economic conservatives retake the republican party, and demand they adjust their facist social agenda (or lose the hundreds of millions of dollars in support), then the crazies in our midst will continue to roll on with their artifically inflated platform.

Why do you think other countires have been able to phase religious agendas out of government, but not us? It's because they have multi-party systems that give voters a variety of choices without 'throwing your vote away'.

But for now, in the US, it should be obvious to an adult webmaster that the evangelicals are a bigger threat than any liberal social program you object to.

And the neo-conservatives currently in control of the republican party have been spending more than the democats! George W Bush has given over a BILLION dollars to 'Jesus'. (against the wishes of congress; they would not approve the bill so Bush made an executive order to fund religious institutions - and only christian groups have gotten any money)

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Old 09-28-2004, 12:46 PM   #14
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If we had a competative 'fiscally conservative and socially liberal' party I am sure they would win by a landslide ...
actually we do. They are called Libertarians.
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Old 09-28-2004, 12:59 PM   #15
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actually we do. They are called Libertarians.
I said 'competative'....

Our political system needs reforming. Other countires recognized problems in their process and adjusted it; but we act like ours is somehow sacred and unchangeable since it was handed down by god. I believe most americans would be libertarians; at least, when you take everything we say America is supposed to stand for, you get libertarianism. Our constitution is libertarian in nature.

Unfortunately it's too dangerous NOT to vote for the only guy who has a chance of removing Bush this year. If Bush was down 10-15 or more points in the polls, I would have the luxury of voting libertarian.
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Old 09-28-2004, 01:00 PM   #16
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IPK, please please please vote for Kerry.
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Old 09-28-2004, 01:11 PM   #17
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I said 'competative'....

Our political system needs reforming. Other countires recognized problems in their process and adjusted it; but we act like ours is somehow sacred and unchangeable since it was handed down by god. I believe most americans would be libertarians; at least, when you take everything we say America is supposed to stand for, you get libertarianism. Our constitution is libertarian in nature.

Unfortunately it's too dangerous NOT to vote for the only guy who has a chance of removing Bush this year. If Bush was down 10-15 or more points in the polls, I would have the luxury of voting libertarian.

Work to make the party competitive. Dare to vote differently - you've already got it in you, just see it through.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Collectively, we have access to millions of people daily. We should make the libertarian party the "pornographers choice" and back these people. We NEED these freedoms. Our ability to put food on the table in this business requires the system to be corrected. And if "we the people" don't take some responsibility in our own futures, who's going to?

Camchicks - you're half way there.. humor supporting the party this year. Just HUMOR the idea.
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:00 PM   #18
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I'm leaning more and more Libertarian every year. I wish I could vote Libertarian this year, but it's too important to get Bush out.

I'm very fiscally conservative, but I'm voting for Kerry. With our economy doing what it's doing right now, there's nothing to spend, so I'm not too worried about crazy spending under Kerry. Bush is already crazy spending so ...
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Old 09-28-2004, 02:46 PM   #19
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Work to make the party competitive. Dare to vote differently - you've already got it in you, just see it through.

I've said it before and I'll say it again... Collectively, we have access to millions of people daily. We should make the libertarian party the "pornographers choice" and back these people. We NEED these freedoms. Our ability to put food on the table in this business requires the system to be corrected. And if "we the people" don't take some responsibility in our own futures, who's going to?

Camchicks - you're half way there.. humor supporting the party this year. Just HUMOR the idea.

The libertarian party and all the groups that operate outside the "big two" monopoly should work together to make political reform their first priority. It would be a tough fight, because they are not in the offices that make those decisions, but I believe they could force the issue into the public debate. Americans are disenfranchised and, I think, willing to consider alternatives. Until the rules change, all the outsiders are just dreaming. Study the way more modern democracies work and sell that to americans.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:39 PM   #20
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I'm not American so my opinion isn't worth much in this debate But if I were, I'd be voting Democrat. Unless the Dems were a shoe-in, and then I'd be voting Libertarian.
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Old 09-28-2004, 03:52 PM   #21
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kerry. G Dub actually proposed one trillion more in spending than Kerry did.

conservative my ass. he spends money like it's water.
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Old 09-28-2004, 04:38 PM   #22
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Man did I misread this and so clicked on it. I thought it said facial conservative.

"Topic: I'm a fiscal conservative / social liberal. Who do I vote for? "
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Old 09-28-2004, 06:04 PM   #23
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Old 09-28-2004, 06:39 PM   #24
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vote for the party most likely to gain power + most likely to leave the adult community alone

there is only one answer to this...........the answer is Democrat.


Bush has his pitbull dumb dog, John Asshead, poised to harrass us even more. A Republican vote is folly if you are an adult webmaster. Period.
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Old 09-28-2004, 07:27 PM   #25
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Okay I'll vote for Kerry.
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