Goes both ways... It's a lousy campaign based on bs...

But Bush attacks and bend the truth ( he is good at that) about Kerry as much...

Too bad nobody with both Balls AND brains ( McCain would have been nice ).

The verdict isn't out on Iraq yet. The Kerry campaign is saying its a cluster fuck because they think its good for their campaign...

Some of the adminstration says a worst case scenario is a civil war. Some say otherwise... It's simply to early to tell..

However, we know from the head of the IRaq Weapons Program that Iraq could of made WMD's very quickly (NY Times Interview) and we know they had ties to Al Queda (Zarqawi). We also know that while we were playing around with the UN to see if they would support action in Iraq... Saddam had 6 months to move whatever WMD's we know he had at one point...

So the argument the Kerry campaign is making that Iraq and the world were better off before US action is simply not true. I haven't heard anyone ask the president if the disbanning of the Iraqi Army was a bad idea.. So I don't know how he feels now... I do know that he feels Iraq will eventually turn out alright and I think we as a whole should hope so too..

Is it good when you have 8 different positions on a war in less then 2 years? I wonder how WW2 would of ended up if Churchill, or Roosevelt had 8 different positons on WW2...

When has he ever claimed he gets messages from god? Please prove it if you can...

He went to Paris as a naval officer, during the peace talks to talk to the enemy? The Nixon Adminstration did not send him....

He shouldn't apologize to the vietnam vets for defaming them?

I am no bush fan but I am willing to bet lots of money on him winning

Kerry is for security, just a different type of security.. It's not like he wakes up in the morning and asks himself how can I help the terrorist...

Your argument however about losing personal liberties... Tell me which you'd lose with Bush in power, and not Kerry...

Americans are the only ones that own Fords and Chevy's huh...

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I'm sorry but this picture just owns. :1orglaugh

It's a shame reality is currently also disgusting isn't it?

When there is a law saying a naval officer is not allowed to meet with foreign leaders because as you might imagine its a conflict of interest... He should not be meeting them... He was not commisioned by anyone to talk to the enemy... So why did he? Can you answer something Kerry wont even?

Yeah reality is disgusting.

http://www.iconoclast.ca/databases/i...OCITY--NEW.jpg

It is too early to tell how things will end in Iraq. We are probably 5-10 years from a final outcome on that but one thing is clear. The bush administration has picked thier course and will not vear from it no matter what. Only recently ( in the last couple of weeks ) did they divert some of the money that was going to go to elections help over there into helping with security because the situation was to dangerous and threatening to hold a serious and effective elections. Apparently the months of car bombings and kidnappings previously were not that threatening.

also as for Ireaq's connection to Al Queda being Zarqawi, CNN seems to thing that he and Osama are actually competitors http://www.cnn.com/2004/US/09/24/who.zarqawi/index.html is the story where it talks about him asking Al Queda for help and basically being turnned down. Also, it looks like this Zarqawi guy only went to Iraq after our invasion, he's actually from Jordan.
I haven't heard Kerry say that the world would be better off if we didn't invade Iraq. I have heard him say it would be better off if we would have waited for a UN collalition.

Defaming them? He blamed the gov't and what the gov't made them do. All his claims are also documented fact. There were war crimes and atrocities committed. As some of you are so keen on pointing out, its a war, civillians die and bad things happen.

She has nothing to do with the running of the company she is a share holder

got it! nice one!:thumbsup

you dont know yet that Iraq had nothing to do with 911. . The Iraqi people did nothing to us for the 1000 th time.

Adner = DarkJedi, you are talking to a brick wall.

the brick wall must be you. :glugglug

Well, I'm not sure this changes anything but CNN has 2 employees working on the Kerry Campaign... So I'm not sure how credible they are...

Zarqawi, was in afghanstan training the taliban for 2 years prior to the US attack on Afghanstan... He then got injured on the battlefield and went to Iraq to recover in a hospital ran by Uday...

I just heard the sound bytes from the Kerry saying the world would be better without a war in Iraq... I don't think it matters if he said for UN approval or not.. Because, there is no way the UN would of approved the war in Iraq.. Too many people with veto power there where doing business with Saddam... So at the end of the day, its just rhetoric for Kerry, he's on the wrong side again.

The pic you are quoting has to do with terroist not the iraqi people.. there is a difference... And just because Iraq didnt help plan or carry out 911. Doesnt mean they are innocent in the war against terrosim.

Yea, the govt he blamed where generals and people too.. Orders that never happened... This can be verified by 265 or whatever the number of swift boat vets against kerry members there are...

Also, if you read those transcripts.. Kerry admits to himself commiting these atriosities...

Still no problem? What is a problem then?

SSSSSHHHHHHH! He is doing us a big favor right now by showing everyone exactly how ignorant and desperate Republicans are.

Sit back relax and... :glugglug

How are republicans desperate.. Republicans aren't screaming on TV about Lieing to the Nation and Betraying America... Nor are they saying anything and everything to get elected even if it means contradicting yourself...

Its not desperate to switch your campaign 50 days out of the election?

Or how about to have the Michael Moore's and the MoveOn's spreading outright lies to swing the election.

If thats not all you got CBS and Rather doing stories based off of forged documents...

What exactly isnt desperate about the Democrats?

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Once again, point proven!

Typical democrat.. don't answer the question.. just say something off topic and act like you are smarter...

So I ask again...

What exactly is not desperate about democrats?

Your post was so funny there is actually not one single intelligent thing that could be said about it.

But funny how Republicans always start shit, then blame Dems for doing it. You guys are fucking stupid and everyone sees right through all of you.

If nothing Bush has done to date has made you lose faith in your president and your government, then what would? Nothing? Nuclear war? (this has nothing to do with republican vs. democrat)

Why should I lose faith? Tell me on a non-partisan, no bullshit basis... please

In my opinion the personal liberies are the Patriot Act, those type of laws, I know there are others but don't remember their names; the policies/laws that were establish after 9/11 as a result of terrorist attacks to help build security but invade personal freedoms.

Also John Ashhahahahaha, and the justice departments stance against pornography and obscenity. That would affect me directly because of my work.

What did republicans start then blame on Dems? You are spinning pretty bad here.... Bullshit after Bullshit, but no facts...

i'll just give up now because this will never go anywhere...

Kerry voted for the Patriot Act....

I hear this argument alot from people here about the Bush admin's policy on pornography and obsenity? What have they done specifically to any legit businesses in this industry?

LOL, is this the democrat way of admitting defeat?

You should g et a job at Fox News.

Unless you actually believe your own bullshit, then I actually do truly feel sorry for you.

most than expected response... feel free to answer the question

Again, don't answer.. just say something off topic.. and pretend you are smarter...

You crack me up....

The CNN employees working for the Kerry campaign are on an opinion and debate show. They are not reporters and never claimed to be impartial. That has no reflection on the news reporting of CNN.

The problem with people and being uninformed is exactly what you just said. They heard sound bytes. The meat and context don't matter. In a fuller context he said the world was a safer place sans Saddam, but the ensuing chaos has also made the world a much less safe place to be.

Just because it goes over your head, does not mean it was off-topic.

I forget you have to speak slowley to Rush listeners. :1orglaugh