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manuelk · 07-31-2001, 06:12 AM

Good morning,

Before you ask why I write this .. I started a small CJ2 site ~1 week ago to send some 404 etc. traffic to it and this morning I saw that a new "webmaster" joined .. I don´t want to post the domain here but this domain is alredy on a "CJ Trading Request" forum on a well know board :o(
That his site had more onjoin TopList popups and Exit popups then my IE could handel shouldn´t be more then a "click the remove and blacklist button" problem but I had to saw that he had some .. underage .. thumbnails and photos on the site to get traffic. Not one of these 18 years old girls which still look like they are 14 .. childs which are at least 4-5 years old. After I wanted to see who his host is (dns server first) I had to see that I got redirected from the "host site" to a pay site where I had to read this:

"only for members
The most young and hot girls 4-11 y.o. only on my site! My name is Denis and I'm interested in photos of very young girls for a long time. Recently I have decided to make this site to facilitate life to all fans of tiny little girls. I started to collect these photos in 1997. Some models look very sexually. "

In fact this domain is realy at least since over a year online. On that "adult site" site the users can join for "only" $39.95 for 1 month or $29,95 for 2 weeks. In the last years i saw on news groups or some sick toplists a few of "young" photos .. but a paysite with also a webmaster referal program (3rd party payment system) ?! Where is the end of this crap ?!?

Since a mail from my company to his hoster or to the webmaster itself (he joined with a mail.ru address and icq uin) I am sure wouldn´t help .. please give some ideas what you would to or what can be done ? To take the sites "offline" with some uncommon methods would work but I don´t think its a solution to fight against a illegal site with illegal systems. I also posted this message on another big webmaster board so don´t get confused or slap me if you read it twice today. I think its a real problem for the real adult buisness and the new surfers out there ..

Thank you already and have a "nice" day

Manuel K

manuelk · 07-31-2001, 06:52 AM

Thats a example quote from the 2nd paysite they offer .. of course with 60% webmaster refer system:

"Don't be surprised if, you find photos of your next door neighbors daughter having her tiny pussy or bottom unmercifully penetrated by her school teacher, or with her sweet little mouth learning to lick and suck your friends penis. These are extreme pictures of little girls first venture in to sex with older men!"

dank · 07-31-2001, 08:06 AM

manuelk-

yes, it is controversial, but it's natural. Kids will be kids......what can you do?

Besides, you're in the adult website business. Seeing this kind of shit is very common....even expected. Being in this business your destined to bump into this kind of shit sometimes. There's probably so many of these kind of sites out there that to just try to stop this one wouldn't really solve anything.

My advice, report them to net nanny or one of their affiliates. It's all you can do.

manuelk · 07-31-2001, 08:19 AM

dank - You might be right but if everyone says that there is no way to stop it so we leave them alone they will get more and more I think. As I said if i see such crap on topsites, cj sites etc. i also just click them away but paysites with a webmaster referal system .. I dunno.

I talked with the hoster of the sites and they told me to write a mail to their abuse department so they will get back to me. And which host who charges $6 / gb (they do) wants to kick such a client .. who even has anonymous registerd domains...
Even if I can get these 2 sites offline for a while - as you said these are not the only ones ...

[This message has been edited by manuelk (edited 07-31-2001).]

E-van · 07-31-2001, 08:38 AM

report it at http://www.asacp.org

feels good when you see the site go down:

Thank you for writing HELMY Enterprises. The web site has been
reported to the 'U.S. Customs Child Pornography Enforcement
Program' and the F.B.I. If we can be of any further assistance please
feel free to contact us.

p.s. Thank you for your support !

Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:31:44 -0400 (EDT)
To: [email protected]
From: [email protected] ()
Subject: ASACP.ORG - Child Porn Report

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Kimmykim · 07-31-2001, 10:16 AM

"Seeing this kind of shit is very common....even expected. "
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Hmmm, somebody in need of a brain transplant this morning I see.

manuelk · 08-01-2001, 05:20 AM

Hello again,

I am very happy to say that both websites I talked about in this post are down since this morning. After I got the abuse contact address through a talk with their hosting company I wrote them a kinda long email where i added their urls, servername, quote from an example text etc etc. and got the following answer today from them (within ~15 hours):

"Genesis II Networks Adult Division , Xsite Hosting , does NOT allow illegal content
and will not tolerate this type of abuse. We are shutting down these client's servers
until they are brought under compliance and pay a hefty fine for violation."

I know that you will say now that there are still thousands around but I don´t think or better I don´t hope that there are soo many CP >pay sites< around.
This mail gave my day a great start so thank you all for your support and have a nice day ;o)

V · 08-01-2001, 03:30 PM

Hmmmm, if you see child porn report it to the FBI...simple as that. They have a special unit that handles this shit! And it is not a "oh, we'll get to it eventually" matter. You can simply email the url to the FBI. I have reported a child predator this way.
most of the FBI field offices are hyperlinked even.

Manuelk-- GOOD FOR YOU! You did the right thing and that's totally awesome!!!!

[This message has been edited by V (edited 08-01-2001).]

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NickB. · 08-02-2001, 02:46 AM

Great man, you're great nail these bastards
at asacp.com!<- great site1
It really does on my nerves knowing bastards like these exists

Burtman · 08-02-2001, 03:27 AM

manuelk,

Thats great! I hope my last post on the other thread didn't come off too harsh because I totally admire the fact that you were trying to shut them down.
It's a great feeling when those sites go down!

Burtman

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Gemini · 08-02-2001, 03:39 AM

It'd be even more satisfying to have a wav file sent back hearing the cell door clank shut, lock turn and the BIG guy in the dark cell corner saying C'mere lil' man... Heh Heh Heh... Maybe a few squeals from the dark...

07-31-2001, 06:12 AM	#1
manuelk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: dot com Posts: 146	Child Porn Paysites ... Please read & help Good morning, Before you ask why I write this .. I started a small CJ2 site ~1 week ago to send some 404 etc. traffic to it and this morning I saw that a new "webmaster" joined .. I don´t want to post the domain here but this domain is alredy on a "CJ Trading Request" forum on a well know board :o( That his site had more onjoin TopList popups and Exit popups then my IE could handel shouldn´t be more then a "click the remove and blacklist button" problem but I had to saw that he had some .. underage .. thumbnails and photos on the site to get traffic. Not one of these 18 years old girls which still look like they are 14 .. childs which are at least 4-5 years old. After I wanted to see who his host is (dns server first) I had to see that I got redirected from the "host site" to a pay site where I had to read this: "only for members The most young and hot girls 4-11 y.o. only on my site! My name is Denis and I'm interested in photos of very young girls for a long time. Recently I have decided to make this site to facilitate life to all fans of tiny little girls. I started to collect these photos in 1997. Some models look very sexually. " In fact this domain is realy at least since over a year online. On that "adult site" site the users can join for "only" $39.95 for 1 month or $29,95 for 2 weeks. In the last years i saw on news groups or some sick toplists a few of "young" photos .. but a paysite with also a webmaster referal program (3rd party payment system) ?! Where is the end of this crap ?!? Since a mail from my company to his hoster or to the webmaster itself (he joined with a mail.ru address and icq uin) I am sure wouldn´t help .. please give some ideas what you would to or what can be done ? To take the sites "offline" with some uncommon methods would work but I don´t think its a solution to fight against a illegal site with illegal systems. I also posted this message on another big webmaster board so don´t get confused or slap me if you read it twice today. I think its a real problem for the real adult buisness and the new surfers out there .. Thank you already and have a "nice" day Manuel K

07-31-2001, 06:52 AM	#2
manuelk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: dot com Posts: 146	Thats a example quote from the 2nd paysite they offer .. of course with 60% webmaster refer system: "Don't be surprised if, you find photos of your next door neighbors daughter having her tiny pussy or bottom unmercifully penetrated by her school teacher, or with her sweet little mouth learning to lick and suck your friends penis. These are extreme pictures of little girls first venture in to sex with older men!"

07-31-2001, 08:06 AM	#3
dank Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2001 Posts: 1,674	manuelk- yes, it is controversial, but it's natural. Kids will be kids......what can you do? Besides, you're in the adult website business. Seeing this kind of shit is very common....even expected. Being in this business your destined to bump into this kind of shit sometimes. There's probably so many of these kind of sites out there that to just try to stop this one wouldn't really solve anything. My advice, report them to net nanny or one of their affiliates. It's all you can do.

07-31-2001, 08:19 AM	#4
manuelk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: dot com Posts: 146	dank - You might be right but if everyone says that there is no way to stop it so we leave them alone they will get more and more I think. As I said if i see such crap on topsites, cj sites etc. i also just click them away but paysites with a webmaster referal system .. I dunno. I talked with the hoster of the sites and they told me to write a mail to their abuse department so they will get back to me. And which host who charges $6 / gb (they do) wants to kick such a client .. who even has anonymous registerd domains... Even if I can get these 2 sites offline for a while - as you said these are not the only ones ... [This message has been edited by manuelk (edited 07-31-2001).]

07-31-2001, 08:38 AM	#5
E-van Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Mex Posts: 447	report it at http://www.asacp.org feels good when you see the site go down: Thank you for writing HELMY Enterprises. The web site has been reported to the 'U.S. Customs Child Pornography Enforcement Program' and the F.B.I. If we can be of any further assistance please feel free to contact us. p.s. Thank you for your support ! Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2001 21:31:44 -0400 (EDT) To: [email protected] From: [email protected] () Subject: ASACP.ORG - Child Porn Report ------------------ Phat Sites Need Phat Hosting Get PHAT And Now You can Get even Phatter! TGP Hosting Special!

07-31-2001, 10:16 AM	#6
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	"Seeing this kind of shit is very common....even expected. " -------------------- Hmmm, somebody in need of a brain transplant this morning I see.

08-01-2001, 05:20 AM	#7
manuelk Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: dot com Posts: 146	Hello again, I am very happy to say that both websites I talked about in this post are down since this morning. After I got the abuse contact address through a talk with their hosting company I wrote them a kinda long email where i added their urls, servername, quote from an example text etc etc. and got the following answer today from them (within ~15 hours): "Genesis II Networks Adult Division , Xsite Hosting , does NOT allow illegal content and will not tolerate this type of abuse. We are shutting down these client's servers until they are brought under compliance and pay a hefty fine for violation." I know that you will say now that there are still thousands around but I don´t think or better I don´t hope that there are soo many CP >pay sites< around. This mail gave my day a great start so thank you all for your support and have a nice day ;o)

08-01-2001, 03:30 PM	#8
V Registered User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: California Posts: 2	Hmmmm, if you see child porn report it to the FBI...simple as that. They have a special unit that handles this shit! And it is not a "oh, we'll get to it eventually" matter. You can simply email the url to the FBI. I have reported a child predator this way. most of the FBI field offices are hyperlinked even. Manuelk-- GOOD FOR YOU! You did the right thing and that's totally awesome!!!! [This message has been edited by V (edited 08-01-2001).] [This message has been edited by V (edited 08-01-2001).]

08-02-2001, 02:46 AM	#9
NickB. Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 8,855	Great man, you're great nail these bastards at asacp.com!<- great site1 It really does on my nerves knowing bastards like these exists

08-02-2001, 03:27 AM	#10
Burtman Registered User Join Date: Feb 2001 Posts: 484	manuelk, Thats great! I hope my last post on the other thread didn't come off too harsh because I totally admire the fact that you were trying to shut them down. It's a great feeling when those sites go down! Burtman ------------------ Thumbspot TGP ISPrime Web Hosting for $2.50 a Gig!

08-02-2001, 03:39 AM	#11
Gemini Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: o-HI-o Posts: 7,183	It'd be even more satisfying to have a wav file sent back hearing the cell door clank shut, lock turn and the BIG guy in the dark cell corner saying C'mere lil' man... Heh Heh Heh... Maybe a few squeals from the dark...