Ok will you make a web ring here ? Where will the traffic come from ? Ill make a new tgp from scratch I have a domain hot free Pics sitting about , will you link all these sites together.
Bake

Wolfshade
The rules look good. Do you mind if I copy them for my tgp?
I like the part about
"You like to get our traffic and we like to be able to send it to you, so do the honourable thing and link back. As a bonus we have set our script to count hits back and the more you send the higher you will get listed!"
My tgp is already setup with a script like that plus it archives.
http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif
Oz

Erotic Candyland Tgp


[This message has been edited by OzKaNoz (edited 07-26-2001).]

Morning everybody...

Nice to see that this idea didn't die overnight. Now after good sleep I'm convinced we will make this thing work.

Btw, http://www.babe-tgp.com/tgp2/ does not load load for me http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/frown.gif

Cncr

Ack...OK...fair enough...let the TGP owner decide. It's the fairest way to go and I'll apologize for starting down that path.

I like those rules too. Simple enough for even a moron to understand why he got blacklisted.

Now, I need a decent TGP script to do this. Any suggestions? I'm using auto-gallery now, but would like something a little better and easier to admin maybe.

Suggestions? I'll start working on this over the weekend.

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So we have an The Unofficial TGP2 List. So what about a official tgp2 list?

Anyway, you can count Erotic Candyland Tgp in.

Oz

Erotic Candyland Tgp

one thing is I would not recommend
some of ya to switch your regular TGP's to tgp2 standard as this affect your traffic greatly..

i heard someone say they wouldn't wanna piss off a surfer,,,well let me tell you this a surfer will not like TGP2 site at all,,,so you can just forget about trying to please a surfer...
most of the traffic going to this TGP2 standard are from professional porn surfers that now where to get porn pics,,,
Don't be surprised to see productivity to these types of sites extremely bad. as they would not like the galleries

It is very important that rules would need to be place,,,you can't have some galleries with 20 pix and other galleries with 4..

also IMHO,,you thought converting regular galleries hard,,these "new" galleries would be 10 times harder

don't get me wrong,,,i ain't against it,,,i like the idea,,,but will it work?

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We'll see that in no time...

And personally I'm not be worried about traffic decrease. I make no money with my TGP, so if I lose the surfers I still make no money http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

We must get fresh traffic to get this thing going... and link trades to other new generetion TGP's.

And I really think tgp2 auto-submission thingy would be great thing to have...

Cncr

I just want to throw in a few ideas.
I'm thinking TGP2 will need something different and something that will make surfers want to come back and check out the galleries.
1. Come up with a creative name for the type of post it will be. This is a big one, the name should be something that makes them want to check out these new type of TGPs.
2. The galleries need to have something more desirable to them to want to keep viewing them. Not so much that they don't go to a sponsor.

I'm pretty new to all of this but I would like to suggest something, why not add a few words under the linked pics, the others just say sample, and let them know if they want the rest of the story so to speak to check out the sponsor.

Here are 2 examples of this type of gallery. http://www.goodgirlsswallow.com/ns1d/clean.htm
http://www.goodgirlsswallow.com/ns1/clean.htm

This might take a little creativity, but look how creative everyone is with different ways to send traffic.

From the little experience I have, those galleries there get 20 times more click thrus to the sponsor then with out a few words or sorta story.

Just a few ideas

gg

Hahah you go to sleep and the next morning this thread grew doubled http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Ok lets ge my take on it starting from the post where I left off yesterday:

Bake:

Using one list of galleries would kind of defeat the purpose of multiple TGP2's as everybody would have the same galleries and therefor be nothing more then a doorway page.
I think we should exchange links, perhaps start an exchange but also promote on our own and get induvidual submissions for varieties sake http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

OzKaNoz

Sure buddy take what ya need from the rules http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Ludedude:

try Elite TGP It's free it ranks and has a great admin section http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Playa:

I think it should be like this:

Established TGP's wanting to do this should create a new TGP2 version next to their original TGP others can just convert. We need to grab traffic from all sources we can, and as for keeping the surfer we should join forces for that. Perhaps offer an adult chat on all TGP2 sites linking to a shared Chatroom for all surfers? Something like that, because interactive content always works great for pulling and keeping the surfer http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Goodgirl:

Nice gallery you posted for example but ehm all thumbs are clickable and lead to a big pic? I think that was not the idea for TGP2 http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

I plan on being live on Monday(right before my vacation http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif )

Wolfshade



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its to premature to tell,,
but i'll give this tgp2
a 50/50 chance,,,
hell this is how CJ2 got started,,

all you need is like 25 tgp2 to trade with
and all webmasters bringing fresh traffic and it'll work,,,but prolly the hardest part is getting posters to post,,,unless you plan on posting your own tgp2 galleries

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wolfeshade,
I was just showing the type of gallery, with words underneath each pic.

It was just an example, I understand the 5 pics clickable part.

gg

If you could buy allot of traffic and send it to a link page with a auto scroling list would you do it ???

I'm sure everybody can make a gallery per day, and then there's Kat who makes the rest http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

I think it will be no prob to get submission after a while... people still like to make money I guess?

Sure we need fillers at the beginning...

Cncr

Bake, sure if it's not 10$ / surfer http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

This idea just hit me but I am working on a clickthrough program. What if I added a list with only TGP2 sites to the exit chain?

That should get good traffic I'd say http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

I'm also working on an exit proggy with Duke same could go there.

Any thoughts on this?

Wolfshade


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I think its time for a list of tgps so far:
mine: http://www.mypinkhole.com
submit: http://www.mypinkhole.com/cgi-bin/agp2/post.cgi
(we must get a good set of rules by now so we are all on the same level, make it the owners choice for the free host or not)
trade: http://www.mypinkhole.com/cgi-bin/ucj/webmaster.cgi

greetz Jim

I´ll glady make 2 galleries a day on paid hosting http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

I think this is a great idea and I´ll gladly give a hand.
When your finished setting up the rules and are ready to take submissions just let me know and I´ll start pumping galleries out http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

hell,
this stuff is far more popular I though it could be http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif
I am happy u guys like this ...
my rules about . series,paid host was to give some quality to a surfers if we don't give him quantity .. just to keep them visitng the TGP2 .. the accepting of normal galleries is for newbies on free hosts and to keep surfers comming too ..

Ok Im in I bulid a site on www.hotfreepics.net but this will only work if we stick together and trade traffic among us with out traffic where doomed before we start. when we get a liitle closer can someone put there hand up to gather us all together. Maybe we have a forum here to work together ???
Bake

If anyone gets a page up with all the rules and participants for the TGP2 please post the link here on GFY.

By the way, I agree with most people here that it should be up to the indiviudual TGP2 owner whether to post galleries on free adult hosts or not. I plan to, but I do prefer paid hosts. Galleries usually look better on bannerless hosts, at least in my experiences.

TGP2 might be a good idea and is worth trying.

Automatic exclusion of free hosts is a bad idea.

Hundreds of thousands of webmasters and probably millions of sites are hosted by free hosts these days and that counts for a sizable chunk of the worlds bandwidth consumption - thats free bandwidth to the webmasters. Making money from tgp traffic has never been easy and free hosts make it easier for the webmaster. Banning them may help exodus out of its financial quagmire (or not) but I don't see anyone else benefitting. Many experienced webmasters use free hosts alongside their paid hosts - it makes sense as bandwidth costs and you can't be sure that you'll make any sales from the 100,000+ hits you get from tgp's in a day but you can be sure it will cost you an arm & a leg. Very few individual webmasters have the buying power to get affordable bandwidth - free hosts can and do so its easier for us to absorb the costs and make some money. For the webmaster its a win win situation - costs nothing and any sale is a bonus! For the tgp its also good - more better quality galleries will be posted and linked to more high traffic sites which means more surfers and more money.

One of the biggest gripes I hear (and I share) from webmasters about tgp's is their rules - they all have these silly rules designed to boost their ego's and income while minimizing webmaster income. Nobody likes too many rules and webmasters will just go elsewhere - there is ALWAYS an elsewhere to go to.

As has been said there are people who will try to screw tgps and hosts and sponsors any way they can - doesn't matter where they host. I mean there are loads of HIGHLY illegal sites hosted by commercial hosts/isps *somewhere* and with their own domains - you think they care about rules? You think they wont screw you for an extra dollar just because they pay for hosting?

Inclusion of a gallery, in my opinion, should only be based on QUALITY of the gallery as long as the fundamental (sensible) tgp2 rules are also adhered to.


*Disclaimer*
I run and host a load of free hosts so I may be biased.. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif



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I agree 100% and will built my TGP2 that way http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/wink.gif

Wolfshade


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Now I just need some galleries http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

If anyone want to share some galleries with me, feel free to email them to me, [email protected] .

thanks.

hi all, I'm in the need of some tgp2 galleries for my lesbo tgp, you can post non lesbo for the time being so we all can get started http://www.mypinkhole.com/index.shtml
or you can email your galleries to:
[email protected]

greetz Jim

[This message has been edited by thumbmatrix (edited 07-27-2001).]

Hi the biggest polish TGP changed today from TGP to TGP2 .I think this positiv react is a good sign for us all and that big TGPs also like the TGP2

If this is not for TGP owners only, but also for the gallery maker(s), count me in.

I'll transform our celeb galleries into the new form and see if it converts better.

(LM, I submitted to your drunkslut-program, I will put that on every gallery next to the celebsponsor, or do you suggest another program that might convert better on celebgalleries(love those drunk sluts though http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif).


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[This message has been edited by Naughty (edited 07-27-2001).]

This seems like a good idea, but it seems one problem still has not been addressed - traffic! Since TGP2s will be at a competitive disadvantage as far as traffic goes, we've got to generate and keep our own traffic.

Also, there's some other problems:

Does TGP2 allow pics on html pages? Now, does that mean the reviewers are all going to check the pages manually for consoles and timed consoles? Or are the TGP2s going to be required to have good link checking software?

Free hosts: Probably should be up to the individual TGP2, but I wouldn't allow them.. If you can't convert TGP2 galleries enough to pay for the minimal bandwidth - can you convert anything? Why bother? The only person it would be making money is the freehost, which is of course why Lightning made his impassioned plea.

Very interesting, I'd almost be interested in starting one up myself.

Cheers,
Backov

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what about a list of TGP2s ?? http://www.dailysexxx.com/submit/submit2.htm
submit your newage galleries here http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

I think the list is being vreated here: http://www.babe-tgp.com/tgp2/

Here is two TGP2 galleries from me so far for those who needs them:
Anal - http://www.x3mporn.com/tgp/anal02/tgp2.html
Lesbo - http://www.x3mporn.com/tgp/lesb01/tgp2.html

Regards,
x3m
[email protected]

Ok Converting Picuniversity.com into tgp2 only. Sign up for trades http://picuniversity.com/webmaster.php or email [email protected] with galleries.

Wolfshade: Thanks for the pointer to Elite TGP, but umm....guess what? They're gone...404 redirect.

Any other suggestions?

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Great idea guys!!

I'm in, I could do a couple of nice galleries on paid hosting per day.

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How about movie gallerys? What should the rules be for them. And should moviegallerys be allowed at all?

I've made a quick one here.
http://www.amaturporn.com/tgp2/index.html

So when do we start ?

I already did http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/biggrin.gif http://www.mypinkhole.com

greetz Jim

me too...
http://www.nasty-porn.net/

http://www.nasty-porn.net/webmasters.html

BTW, when somebody makes a signup from a tgp2 gallery please let us know it http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Cncr

[This message has been edited by Cncr (edited 07-27-2001).]

Wow, a lot has happened since I've been gone. http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

My server went down while I was gone, but now it's back up and I see the list is slightly larger than when I checked it last. Anyway, I encourage people to list your sites here so we have a "master list" of participating TGPs:

http://www.babe-tgp.com/tgp2/

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Hey all,

I´m in too! TGP2 has a great concept and I truly believe it will work!

About the rules.. I´d go with:

Rule 1: 12-16 thumbs with 120 to 150 pixels of size.

Rule 2: 5 thumbs must link to big pics - but you can pick random thumbs - not the first 5, because this way the visitors will look at the whole page, not only the 5 first thumbs.

Rule 3: Galleries must be clean, and all the yadda yadda we all know http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Take care all of you! And feel free to email me or reach me on ICQ - It´s all on my profile http://bbs.gofuckyourself.com/board/smile.gif

Bruno

I thought there were going to be no recips?