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VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 04:41 PM

I wonder how many people we know and do business with are being affected by this latest round of lawsuits.

Leslie
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Microsoft sues more spammers

Ongoing crusade totals 100 cases as software giant looks to stop spam blight.
September 23, 2004: 7:20 PM EDT

SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. filed nine new lawsuits against spammers who send unsolicited e-mail, including an e-mail marketing Web hosting company, the world's largest software maker said on Thursday

With the latest batch of lawsuits, Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft (MSFT: Research, Estimates) said it is involved in more than 100 legal cases against spammers, including more than 70 lawsuits filed in the United States.

Microsoft has launched a barrage of lawsuits against spammers over the past year in an attempt to curb the spread of unsolicited e-mail pitching everything from get-rich-quick schemes and herbal remedies to penis enlargements.

Microsoft said it filed a lawsuit last week in Washington State's King County Superior Court against Web hosting company National Online Sales and its owner Levon Gillespie, as well as those who used his services, for offering ``bulletproof'' services for those seeking to send marketing email.

Gillespie was not immediately available for comment and e-mails sent to his company's site were not immediately answered.

Aaron Kornblum, an attorney for Microsoft, said the Web hosting company, which offers space on computers for serving Web pages and sending e-mail, based its operations in China so the sites would not be shut down.

``This is the first action against a Web host catering to spammers,'' Kornblum said, ``they're providing a safe place for spammers to drive customers to.''

The other recent lawsuits filed by Microsoft were against spammers sending unsolicited e-mail.

Kornblum said that by taking legal action, Microsoft is ``trying to change the economics of spam'' by making it costlier for spammers to continue their activities.

TheJimmy · 09-23-2004, 04:43 PM

so, I wonder how many spammers are closing up shop today now that they heard the news...

it is a valid approach they're taking that I'm shocked hadn't happened yearrrrrs ago....

hydro · 09-23-2004, 04:43 PM

Gillespie = levon Gillespie = cheapbulletproof.com = scammer

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 04:44 PM

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Originally posted by hydro
Gillespie = levon Gillespie = cheapbulletproof.com = scammer

You have a picture of the dude? I am horrible with names but remember faces... Don't know if I've ever met him or not.

Thanks!
LS

crockett · 09-23-2004, 04:44 PM

so what exactly gives Microsoft the right to sue these guys? They can't just say hey you are a spammer and sue them.. Has to be something that is affecting microsoft.

Phoenix · 09-23-2004, 04:45 PM

seems like a waste of the legal system as well..all for one mans quest

hydro · 09-23-2004, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie
You have a picture of the dude? I am horrible with names but remember faces... Don't know if I've ever met him or not.

Thanks!
LS

nope no pic, but i know that he's black

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
so what exactly gives Microsoft the right to sue these guys? They can't just say hey you are a spammer and sue them.. Has to be something that is affecting microsoft.

GOD COMPLEX.

They are the only ones allowed to monopolize and be unethical, LOL!

Leslie

BRISK · 09-23-2004, 04:46 PM

awww.....boo hoo for the spammers

hydro · 09-23-2004, 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
so what exactly gives Microsoft the right to sue these guys? They can't just say hey you are a spammer and sue them.. Has to be something that is affecting microsoft.

CAN spam is why they sue. Pointless since the people they try to sue are fake names behind even more fake names

chupachups · 09-23-2004, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
Gillespie = levon Gillespie = cheapbulletproof.com = scammer

OMG OMG OMG... they got that prick

ztik · 09-23-2004, 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
so what exactly gives Microsoft the right to sue these guys? They can't just say hey you are a spammer and sue them.. Has to be something that is affecting microsoft.

hotmail?

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
nope no pic, but i know that he's black

If someone has a picture of this Gallespi guy, please post it.

Thanks!
Leslie

crockett · 09-23-2004, 04:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
CAN spam is why they sue. Pointless since the people they try to sue are fake names behind even more fake names

yea but if these are off shore spammers then can spam dosen't apply to them.

Rich · 09-23-2004, 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
Gillespie = levon Gillespie = cheapbulletproof.com = scammer

No fucking way

benoitlc666 · 09-23-2004, 04:56 PM

Spammer, never heard of spammers... Ghost hosting, never seen it either ;)
And what is Microsoft???

Realistically, one has to look at what makes sense. As surfers get more aware of what's going on, they will stop answering spams, so cash in as long as it's possible. Won't last for ever.

Deceptive business practices can only be ephemerous.

PornGeneral · 09-23-2004, 05:14 PM

Most all operations have some sort of US assets that can be attached in judgment enforcement.

CAN-SPAM Act + State Laws + Hotmail = Right to sue, more then likely.

CAN-SPAM Act section which allows state laws to remain enforceable.

SEC. 8. EFFECT ON OTHER LAWS.

(b) STATE LAW-

(1) IN GENERAL- This Act supersedes any statute, regulation, or rule of a State or political subdivision of a State that expressly regulates the use of electronic mail to send commercial messages, except to the extent that any such statute, regulation, or rule prohibits falsity or deception in any portion of a commercial electronic mail message or information attached thereto.

jmk · 09-23-2004, 05:24 PM

woah!

elric · 09-23-2004, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by crockett
so what exactly gives Microsoft the right to sue these guys? They can't just say hey you are a spammer and sue them.. Has to be something that is affecting microsoft.

It means they are going to be heavily involved in the laws determining who controls the sending of e-mail.

Control = ability to charge = Microsoft-run spam in the future

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 05:38 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by elric
It means they are going to be heavily involved in the laws determining who controls the sending of e-mail.

Control = ability to charge = Microsoft-run spam in the future

Absolutely. They are setting themselves up for even more control over what happens on everyone's computer.

MSN = Bill Gates'

My Sovereign Network

ha ha ha ha ha ha!

Leslie

jmk · 09-23-2004, 05:42 PM

time for some microsoft pics ;)

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmk
time for some microsoft pics ;)

Now that shit is funnnnnnyyyyy!

Leslie

jmk · 09-23-2004, 05:45 PM

I am secretly in love with Baghdad Bob!

pornguy · 09-23-2004, 05:46 PM

I have about 20 e-mail addresses, and get tons and tons of spam.

But I would rather hit the delete button a few times a day then to have to mess with getting rid of a virus. That takes hours. The spam takes minutes.

If thay put more effort in getting the people with the trojans and things like that, they would also shut down the majority of spamming.

ronbotx · 09-23-2004, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by hydro
Gillespie = levon Gillespie = cheapbulletproof.com = scammer

AAh yes , another dirtbag who was posting here and advertising his fine services in last couple of weeks. I remember....

I can't wait till Microsoft or the Feds go after WebAir(SpamAir) and shut down that cesspool of scumbags, criminals, scammers, and ROKSO spammers.

They need to shut down the spam supporting sponsors and webhosts, not just the spammers themselves.

hydro · 09-23-2004, 06:23 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ronbotx
AAh yes , another dirtbag who was posting here and advertising his fine services in last couple of weeks. I remember....

I can't wait till Microsoft or the Feds go WebAir(SpamAir) and shut down that cesspool of scumbags, criminals, scammers, and ROKSO spammers.

They need to shut down the spam supporting sponsors and webhosts, not just the spammers themselves.

break the legs and the body will fall, if ms is going to fight spam with lawsuits this is the best way to do it. They do go after sponsors, hosts, datacenters, and mailing services. Webair does have a fair share of spammers but remember that alot of the sponsors around gfy also support spam.

XPays · 09-23-2004, 06:37 PM

what is the over/under on how long before all the jon does are provided by the named defendants?

ms is after the bphosting guy's customer list.

american pervert · 09-23-2004, 07:13 PM

lawsuits, lol.... makes me wish I went to law skool

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
what is the over/under on how long before all the jon does are provided by the named defendants?

ms is after the bphosting guy's customer list.

No kidding! I can totally see them finding a way to get their dirty little fingers on the lists and banging them out themselves... Who is going to sue them, right?

I am usually not too pissie when it comes to spam but those folks over at www.cheapseats.com have me close to melting point. They keep trying to opt me into their list and I've replied to be removed, gotten confirmation that I was removed, then I still get 5 damned emails a day trying to opt me in. That's the kinds shit that pisses me off.

If someone says remove, then f*ing REMOVE THEM!!!

If they don't, they deserve to have a big Hawaiian pineapple grow up their butt and get sued!

LS

D-Money · 09-23-2004, 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XPays
what is the over/under on how long before all the jon does are provided by the named defendants?

ms is after the bphosting guy's customer list.

XPays never turned over customer info and settled with them.

How many others could say the same?

Long live XPays!

american pervert · 09-23-2004, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by VividLeslie

I am usually not too pissie when it comes to spam but those folks over at www.cheapseats.com have me close to melting point. They keep trying to opt me into their list and I've replied to be removed, gotten confirmation that I was removed, then I still get 5 damned emails a day trying to opt me in. That's the kinds shit that pisses me off.

If someone says remove, then f*ing REMOVE THEM!!!

If they don't, they deserve to have a big Hawaiian pineapple grow up their butt and get sued!

LS

I feel ya on that.. I opt'd out to a casino, now I get 3 spams a day instead of 1.. but that why I use a filter ;-)

09-23-2004, 07:27 PM

holy fucking shit....

VividLeslie · 09-23-2004, 07:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by D-Money
XPays never turned over customer info and settled with them.

How many others could say the same?

Long live XPays!

PaaaaaaaaahPaaaaaaaaaaah!

You guys are back!

Remembering the days when Xpays fed us all ontime after a wonderful Player's Ball, aaaaaaaaaaaah! The good ole days!

Calling you guys in a little bit to see how your trip went.

xoxoxoxoxoxo
Leslie

Persius · 09-23-2004, 10:39 PM

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Originally posted by bdjuf
holy fucking shit....

SlutFinder · 09-23-2004, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Phoenix
seems like a waste of the legal system as well..all for one mans quest

Fukeneh · 09-24-2004, 12:19 AM

you do also realize that MS is trying to get into bed with ironport systems, which also owns spamcop.com. biggest, best spam machines buying the largest and most widely used anti-spam/spam reporting website.

ms ought to be working on securing thier software prior to its public release rather then trying to fight a battle it can not win.

kenny · 09-24-2004, 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by pornguy
I have about 20 e-mail addresses, and get tons and tons of spam.

But I would rather hit the delete button a few times a day then to have to mess with getting rid of a virus. That takes hours. The spam takes minutes.

If thay put more effort in getting the people with the trojans and things like that, they would also shut down the majority of spamming.

Viruses and spyware should be the more important priority.

It will be eventually..

CamJack · 09-24-2004, 07:12 AM

I hope those spammers rot in jail.

jmk · 09-24-2004, 09:37 AM

I use mailblocks.com ... FUCK spam

Persius · 09-24-2004, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by geoGUERILLA
I hope those spammers rot in jail.

rot in jail ... hah

sperbonzo · 09-27-2004, 07:23 AM

hmmmmmm....... veeeeeeeeerrrrrrry interesting....

Khun · 09-27-2004, 07:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by jmk
time for some microsoft pics ;)

Lol! Good read. I agree that the current infestation has moved from spam to spyware and viri but with the law being a consistant 8 years or so behind the times, I doublt we are going to get that fixed anytime soon

09-23-2004, 04:41 PM	#1
VividLeslie Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 500	Microsoft sues more spammers I wonder how many people we know and do business with are being affected by this latest round of lawsuits. Leslie ------------------------------------------------------ Microsoft sues more spammers Ongoing crusade totals 100 cases as software giant looks to stop spam blight. September 23, 2004: 7:20 PM EDT SEATTLE (Reuters) - Microsoft Corp. filed nine new lawsuits against spammers who send unsolicited e-mail, including an e-mail marketing Web hosting company, the world's largest software maker said on Thursday With the latest batch of lawsuits, Redmond, Washington-based Microsoft (MSFT: Research, Estimates) said it is involved in more than 100 legal cases against spammers, including more than 70 lawsuits filed in the United States. Microsoft has launched a barrage of lawsuits against spammers over the past year in an attempt to curb the spread of unsolicited e-mail pitching everything from get-rich-quick schemes and herbal remedies to penis enlargements. Microsoft said it filed a lawsuit last week in Washington State's King County Superior Court against Web hosting company National Online Sales and its owner Levon Gillespie, as well as those who used his services, for offering ``bulletproof'' services for those seeking to send marketing email. Gillespie was not immediately available for comment and e-mails sent to his company's site were not immediately answered. Aaron Kornblum, an attorney for Microsoft, said the Web hosting company, which offers space on computers for serving Web pages and sending e-mail, based its operations in China so the sites would not be shut down. ``This is the first action against a Web host catering to spammers,'' Kornblum said, ``they're providing a safe place for spammers to drive customers to.'' The other recent lawsuits filed by Microsoft were against spammers sending unsolicited e-mail. Kornblum said that by taking legal action, Microsoft is ``trying to change the economics of spam'' by making it costlier for spammers to continue their activities. __________________ Leslie Sharp www.VividCash.com

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jmk Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 5,391	time for some microsoft pics ;)

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buddyjuf Guest Posts: n/a	holy fucking shit....

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