Man what a twisted sense of reality you have.

ibill is a publicly traded company who?s stock has been frozen, They CAN NOT comment. It's not that they don't want to, they simply can't.

Any one who doesn't think ibill had a backup plan in place is obviously not very smart and ibill has proven them wrong by already switching to another bank and resuming processing as if nothing has changed. Everyone has a backup plan its just common sense.

The part of processors claiming everything fine right up till the last minute is unfortunately true, most of them do go down like that.

Now this part of people trusting ibill being newbies is completely ridiculous. That statement should have been used for this new biller in the topic. Offshore with an anonomous domain just registered last month.. now that?s something to worry about.

Hey BadDog-

The fact that your domain was registered by proxy, coupled with your need to resort to spamming to attract new business, speaks volumes about you and your company.

You might be better off working
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So then the points that they made in the court filings in regards to going out of business if the TRO was lifted were bogus???

kinda tasteless if you ask me.

Honestly I can't answer that question but I feel it was more posturing for the courts then anything else.

:321GFY sybianguru

Thanks baddog, I'm going to go check this out, always good to have the eggs scattered around just in case shit hits the fan :thumbsup

Your eggs will be more than scattered if you make that move... more like scrambled!

I am a HUGE advocate for spreading the transactions and making sure I have a backup.. but a questioniable one that is just coming out of no where.. gee where do I sign up!

Of course it was . you want a judge to go your way,your going to paint rosy pictures? No your going to be overly dramatic about the pain and suffering that will be endured. Comeon guys thats business law 101

Only offshore banks offering adult via ecommerceglobal??

jake knows his shit, i would never waste the money with a 3rd party processor.

sorry, just saw this . .. requesting authorization now

idiot

I believe I answered that question already

A little update.

I happen to know the GM at eCommerceGlobal and just got done talking to him.

I pointed out that .50% discount he was giving people that mentioned they heard about eCommerceGlobal from me wasn't really much, and was there anyway that he could bump the discount to 1% so that there was a significant savings for the low volume merchant. He agreed to it.

So, if you tell them you learned about them from baddog, you will save 1%.

That will be $1 per $100, $10 per $1,000, or $1,000 per $100,000. How is that?

The fact of life is all companies come and go.

It's a matter of not being a client when they go.

Third party processors are no different, whether they have some "VISA compliant" shit as a label or not.

... you are one useless prick.

hmm i didnt see the questions about domains by proxy question addressed

I'd like to know why they are hiding aswell ... :-/

and i am in the market for a processer aswell

As I stated last night, these guys are new to adult, and did not fully comprehend how stuff like that does make a difference to adult webmasters.

I spent a considerable amount of time on the phone with them today, and they eventually agreed that they should eliminate the proxy. Look for that to be modified ASAP.

Your opinion is so important to me.

I guess I could have started a new thread announcing the increased discount, but did not feel it was necessary.

Next time I will be sure to consult with you ahead of time.

well what im lookin to set up is not really adult ... so you still got all the pimp features for non adult ? like no setup fee .. no monthlys?

of course :thumbsup

it never ceases to amaze me on here when people slam/ bitch and moan about any new processor. Im not vouching for ecommerceglobal in any way, and no we dont use em. But fucking hell open your eyes, at this moment their are only 2 decent bill companies left in the USA, can it not be seen that more options on the market worlwide is better for the industry ?
Sure billers will always go down somplace, but at least some new billers are coming through. Without them we are all fucked!

And remember their is life outside of the USA, and yes they are webmasters outside of the USA who do not need to comply with US rules if they choose not to.

It could well be in the long term their are NO US based billers left at all. This would not surprise me with the current climate in the US which is on witch hunt for porn. So the more EU processors the better. And as for us we full incorporation in both the EU and the USA and over all our companys spread our bets. I trust no one biller in the biz no matter how fucking good they are.

Dont bitch but welcome new billing companies no matter where they and make your own choice from their if you should use em or not.

My rant for this morning - flame me. :mad:

I think that was well said. You made some good points :thumbsup

No physical contact informations and a domains by proxy whois, looks way too shady for me.Phone numbers can be forwarded everywhere without you knowing who's behind it. :2 cents:

We get our share of slamming...but thanks for your concern.

Like I said, they understand more now, and I have emphasized this to them even more this evening. They now understand and will be changing that ASAP.

When dealing with mainstream consumers you can do things a little differently than you can with adult, they are learning this and are modifying their position to reflect this understanding.

any time :)

Don't make me google, give me some links to support what you are saying...

You're fired!

links to support that they are new to adult?

I agree. :mad:

http://www.ecommerceglobal.com/demos/order.htm

Go any better looking join forms than that? That's horrible man :2 cents:

Okay

http://www.prweb.com/releases/2004/9/prweb155069.htm

http://avnonline.com/index.php?Prima...tent_ID=189261

http://www.adultnewsline.com/anl/article_8492.shtml

http://www.albumside.com/news_piece.php?id=5069

http://www.cozyfrog.com/press/index.asp

http://www.mgoldmine.com/maculator_updates.htm?clk=IN10

I honestly don't know . . . will check and get back to you on that

Dog, pay no nevermind to abner advertising. From what I hear he is really David Foote, but regardless, from what I've seen of his posts he is about as dumb as a fleshlight packed full of bellybutton lint.

To be honest, I am not too concerned, but I do bring up these issues (like the join form design) to the GM, because feedback, even from trolls can be valuable . . . like they say, out of the mouths of trolls, or something like that.

Anyway, I just got done talking to the GM, and he said he would "jazz it up." Like I mentioned before, they do seem very sincere when it comes to wanting to build the confidence of the adult community.