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European Lee · 09-22-2004, 12:20 PM

According to Mark Lender

I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

Regards,

Lee

Johny Traffic · 09-22-2004, 12:21 PM

give more details please

MattO · 09-22-2004, 12:21 PM

I think it's E-motion that they won.

bluff · 09-22-2004, 12:23 PM

sig placement

boobmaster · 09-22-2004, 12:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
According to Mark Lender

I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

Regards,

Lee

Whether they won or lost, it still doesn't look good for them. They still need to find a solution.

Johny Traffic · 09-22-2004, 12:25 PM

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sig placement

I for once got mine in first. I hope its true though

SpaceAce · 09-22-2004, 12:25 PM

I thought everyone got the hint and left iBill after the last massive wave of problems they had.

SpaceAce

Reak · 09-22-2004, 12:25 PM

Johny Traffic · 09-22-2004, 12:26 PM

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Whether they won or lost, it still doesn't look good for them. They still need to find a solution.

Dont they have one starting at another date, isnt the motion to hold things as they are till then? I could be wrong but thats how I understood it

PornGeneral · 09-22-2004, 12:26 PM

Denied, Granted, or whatever... Still doesn't fix the problem...

Is he trying to sell share of IBD?

tootie · 09-22-2004, 12:27 PM

Hmm, very odd situation.

scoreman · 09-22-2004, 12:27 PM

They lost. Lee try asking further up the chain than Lender.

.:St Ides:. · 09-22-2004, 12:28 PM

If the motion was granted this gives them time to move set up and keep going.

We need ibill as much as it needs us

Drake · 09-22-2004, 12:28 PM

Hope you're right Lee

stocktrader23 · 09-22-2004, 12:29 PM

Can see the people processing with Ibill scurrying for any good news to hold on to. Hope you are right but it's doubtful.

body · 09-22-2004, 12:29 PM

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 12:29 PM

Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.

Johny Traffic · 09-22-2004, 12:29 PM

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They lost. Lee try asking further up the chain than Lender.

Why would they lie? If they lost we'd all know about it anyway, this is getting crazy, surley someone will confirm soon, can't be doing them any good either way like this

xxxoutsourcing · 09-22-2004, 12:30 PM

.:St Ides:. · 09-22-2004, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.

There laywers have put a gag order on them, since this is a public domain it could be used against them in court.

They are waiting until they have everything in order "even if it's not good news" to post and make a statement

Shap · 09-22-2004, 12:35 PM

Rick, Garrett is no longer CEO of ibill. The guy calling all the shots is Mark Smith. He often posts here. I think in this situation they can't make any public comments on the situation.

Shoplifter · 09-22-2004, 12:35 PM

Win or lose it doesn't matter if they freeze payouts. All the major clients will be gone in a day or two and there will be no incoming cash stream.

Brujah · 09-22-2004, 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
According to Mark Lender

I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

Regards,

Lee

Rick Latona's source is inaccurate ?

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 12:37 PM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Rick Latona's source is inaccurate ?

No

boobmaster · 09-22-2004, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.

I (unfortunately) have to agree. Ibill has only processed 5% of my normal business volume today on all of my master accounts. FUCK! Anyone else who uses ibill seeing similar stats?

PornGeneral · 09-22-2004, 12:39 PM

They are a public company. I do not believe it is a gag order but for the reason anything made public be it bad or good could come back to bite them. They need to watch what is said in public.

BigWebRev · 09-22-2004, 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least.

Garrett is not iBill's CEO.

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 12:40 PM

If anyone doesn't believe me, try joining a site through I-Bill.

Calvinguy · 09-22-2004, 12:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
If anyone doesn't believe me, try joining a site through I-Bill.

US client or EU client?

The clients country is shown at the bottom

Brujah · 09-22-2004, 12:49 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
No

I didn't think so. Can I stab Lee now ?

Ray@TastyDollars · 09-22-2004, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
If anyone doesn't believe me, try joining a site through I-Bill.

I did, it worked. Ibill EU

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 12:50 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
I did, it worked. Ibill EU

U.S. This whole day has been about the U.S.

Anthony_A · 09-22-2004, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rick Latona
If anyone doesn't believe me, try joining a site through I-Bill.

Shoplifter · 09-22-2004, 12:53 PM

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Originally posted by Ray
I did, it worked. Ibill EU

They are not paying out to EU webmasters so it is a moot point.

Dawgy · 09-22-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by Shoplifter
They are not paying out to EU webmasters so it is a moot point.

why & where do u see that info?

MetaformX · 09-22-2004, 12:54 PM

Im hearing they lost. I believe your sources are wrong Lee

PornGeneral · 09-22-2004, 12:54 PM

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Originally posted by PornGeneral

Is he trying to sell share of IBD?

http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=192882

justsexxx · 09-22-2004, 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
According to Mark Lender

I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

Regards,

Lee

You suck, and your info is wrong. Now go back you

Shoplifter · 09-22-2004, 12:58 PM

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Originally posted by Dawgy
why & where do u see that info?

I've not been able to find one that was paid this week. And believe me I am looking.

Are there any EU sponsored merchants who have been paid here?

Rick Latona · 09-22-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
According to Mark Lender

I would rather beleive the news from the horses mouth myself

Regards,

Lee

Do you honestly think I'd put my name out there on breaking this story if I wasn't 100% correct with verifiable sources?

alan-l · 09-22-2004, 01:01 PM

Happily we left the IBill ship 2 years ago

European Lee · 09-22-2004, 01:05 PM

Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

Regards,

Lee

StuartD · 09-22-2004, 01:06 PM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
Do you honestly think I'd put my name out there on breaking this story if I wasn't 100% correct with verifiable sources?

No need to back yourself up... given the two choices of people to believe... I think you'll get 99% of GFY'ers votes any day.

.:St Ides:. · 09-22-2004, 01:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

Regards,

Lee

So it had nothing to do with anything important lol

European Lee · 09-22-2004, 01:09 PM

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Originally posted by .:St Ides:.
So it had nothing to do with anything important lol

Um yes it was.

First Data was in breach of contract with iBill

Thats really important for iBill i would say ;)

Regards,

Lee

MickeyG · 09-22-2004, 01:14 PM

well since u had him on the phone did he happen to mention whats next?

European Lee · 09-22-2004, 01:16 PM

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Originally posted by MickeyG
well since u had him on the phone did he happen to mention whats next?

Nope.

Regards,

Lee

John3 · 09-22-2004, 01:18 PM

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Originally posted by PornGeneral
http://www.avn.com/index.php?Primary...tent_ID=192882

ouch

But then, I'm with SpaceAce and don't see why anyone still was relying on them anyway.

PornGeneral · 09-22-2004, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by European Lee
Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract.

Just wanted to clarify that ;)

Regards,

Lee

Fishy, doubt the Court ruled on trial issues. Only thing the Court would rule on now is Emergency TRO and injunctions.

PornGeneral · 09-22-2004, 01:32 PM

Are you pulling this information from you ass?

They filed this case this week. I know from experiance in legal matters that breach of contract is a trial issue. What is your game?

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Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	Why doesn't Garrett Bender, iBill's CEO come on this board, like Epoch's and CCBill's have, and state for the record that they won their motion? The NY Court Records are public, so if he is telling the truth, he should post. The facts are clear. They were Denied and they are not processing in the USA, at least. __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

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Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Rick, Garrett is no longer CEO of ibill. The guy calling all the shots is Mark Smith. He often posts here. I think in this situation they can't make any public comments on the situation.

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Shoplifter Richest man in Babylon Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Posts: 10,002 Posts: 5,734	Win or lose it doesn't matter if they freeze payouts. All the major clients will be gone in a day or two and there will be no incoming cash stream.

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PornGeneral Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In front of computer Posts: 564	They are a public company. I do not believe it is a gag order but for the reason anything made public be it bad or good could come back to bite them. They need to watch what is said in public. __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -Patton "Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato

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European Lee Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Daytona Beach Posts: 7,133	Just got off the phone with Mark and he told me that his comment was in relation to yesterdays Motion about First Data being in breach of contract. Just wanted to clarify that ;) Regards, Lee __________________ YOUR TRAFFIC IS SAFE WITH US - CONDOM CASH PUTTING THE GAY ADULT INDUSTRY ON YOUR PC!! AFFORDABLE 2257 COMPLIANT GAY + BI CONTENT

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PornGeneral Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In front of computer Posts: 564	Are you pulling this information from you ass? They filed this case this week. I know from experiance in legal matters that breach of contract is a trial issue. What is your game? __________________ "The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his." -Patton "Only the dead have seen the end of war." -Plato