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09-09-2004, 11:51 AM
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2257 Docs & Sobe Content
I just talked to the guy that sold me 200 videos a time ago.....because i wanted to ask for the 2257 Docs, what every serious content provider sends with the sold sets/videos.
SOBE wants to charge for this documents for the 200 Videos 650 $$$ .....sorry, but i have no words for this |
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09-09-2004, 12:00 PM
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 mabe he does not have them, so charging you such a high amount of money is a 100% guarantee you will not ask for those 2257 documents again
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09-09-2004, 12:20 PM
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That´s fucked up.....
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09-09-2004, 12:24 PM
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09-09-2004, 12:26 PM
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09-09-2004, 12:39 PM
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That's fucking extortion... Sobe has been pulling that absolute bullshit for a while, trying to soak a few more dollars out of everyone. What a retard.
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09-09-2004, 12:41 PM
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Whats wrong about asking for administrative fees?
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09-09-2004, 12:42 PM
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sobe is a fucking idiot
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09-09-2004, 12:42 PM
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this is fucked up and soemtimes i wish to live in the US, to be sure, that i am closer to such people
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09-09-2004, 12:53 PM
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bitchslapping zebras!!!!!
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09-09-2004, 12:54 PM
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people still deal with that guy?
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09-09-2004, 12:59 PM
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09-09-2004, 01:00 PM
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Its because SOBE is a fucking moron.
 
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09-09-2004, 01:02 PM
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09-09-2004, 01:04 PM
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We have our 2257 stuff on one CD, how much does that cost? 50 cents?
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09-09-2004, 01:12 PM
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and why the hell doesn´t he sell this shit in the same time with the videos ???  why asking for more money after all ???I also bought other blowouts, but never had such problems...this sucks |
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09-09-2004, 01:15 PM
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if he was honest and not a scammer, he would make this a known fact on his site and put a place to add the 2257 into your cart also...but he wants you to wonder and then ask, so he can extort the money from you |
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09-09-2004, 01:18 PM
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CORRECT !!! arrrghhhh i could punch the shit out of him ........
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09-09-2004, 01:21 PM
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What a idiot....
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09-09-2004, 01:47 PM
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Well I can see his point if he had already supplied the 2257.
I'm having to go through sets and send out 2257 documents for people who suddenly had a disc self destruct. Amazing how many discs self destructed the moment the owners went to look for the documents, not saying they wre foolish enough to throw them away. If you bought content before this change to the law without 2257 documents or you "Lost" them, it's your fault. So now you have to spend some money to put right your mistakes. Seems about right. Mind you I always supplied content with 2257 documents and urged everyone to buy content with documents, so no flaming me please.  |
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09-09-2004, 01:56 PM
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Is it even legal to charge an "administrative fee" for providing documents he legally has to provide or am I wrong?
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09-09-2004, 02:24 PM
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09-09-2004, 02:24 PM
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We give 2257 docs...for free
We give 2257 docs with every content purchase. No extra charges. for exemple, this video comes with model ID's and model release, like all of our products. pissing fetish video http://www.asian-amateurs-hardcore.c...e1demonet1.wmv Regards MajorTom
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09-09-2004, 02:30 PM
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09-09-2004, 02:49 PM
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i know your page, but since today i am blocked....
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09-09-2004, 03:13 PM
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For $650, you can have almost 70% my entire site of content, WITH ALL 2257 DOCS!!!
Just keep at him, he'll back down at some point. He was flamed about this a few weeks ago. He's just a swcumbag trying to get whatever he can from a business that doesn't make him money anymore REGARDLESS of what he or his alter-egos post here about how well his sales are going. |
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09-09-2004, 03:44 PM
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That is illegal NO!
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09-09-2004, 03:56 PM
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I paid for all the docs when I bought the content..
At that time I could get 200 sets for 5 dollars each and he charged me 2 dollars each set for the docs. So that makes is a 7 dollars a content set. Still the best deal on the net !  |
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09-09-2004, 04:40 PM
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09-09-2004, 04:42 PM
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09-09-2004, 05:23 PM
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WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO PULL for you Sobe 
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09-09-2004, 05:30 PM
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Let this Motherfucker rest in Peace.....i am sure one day he will pay for all the bullshit he did...
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09-09-2004, 05:44 PM
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I've got about 5000 DVD titles web ready, never mind that they have the 2257 for them, I'll sell them to you for an extra buck each... |
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09-09-2004, 05:50 PM
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He also went on to say that he plans to continue the practice of not providing the 2557 docs with future purchases, and will ony supply them if the consumer requests and pays a extra fee for each document. Not that I would ever purchase his crap content in the 1st place, but if it was good... after reading his statements, I will never give him my business
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09-09-2004, 09:24 PM
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09-09-2004, 09:34 PM
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Take down that idiots site and stop his moronic extortion rampage.
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09-09-2004, 09:39 PM
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It's not unreasonable to charge a small administration fee, even a per set fee but it should be capped at a maximum total. Don't penalise people who have made large purchases, you should be rewarding them...
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09-09-2004, 09:52 PM
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he did the same shit to me for 200 vids i got back when he had that sale a long time ago
fuck him
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09-09-2004, 11:32 PM
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I've had only one experience with the guy... Creepy Dude... prospective clients have asked me if I had anything to do with him, b/c if so they didn't want to deal... Here's my question. Why settle for a copy on disk? when I send out my content you get a HARD copy of my 13 page model release form, ID's, and video taped testimonials... WHy would someone even settle to accept content without proper documentation to begin with? Either way, SOBE is fucked in the head and 100% wrong... Ya throw a client a bone or a favor and they remember you for it... Shit anyone loses their 2257, gimme a couple of days, you got it... It's not hard... Shit goto Kinkos for Christ Sake.. Sorry that happened to you. He'll get his, his rep is shit in Miami.
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09-09-2004, 11:33 PM
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ya that is fucked up but what can you expect from that fucking douche bag
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09-10-2004, 05:23 AM
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I still don't see what the problem here is. So instead of paying 5 dollars a set when I bought 200 sets I paid 7 dollars and got the docs... I am happy with this deal and have made a ton of money from the investment. SoBeGirl rocks and I love them. :-) |
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09-10-2004, 05:39 AM
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It's a bit like buying a car and being told "Hey, seats and tires will cost you an extra xxxx$"...not a way paying customers should be treated
It's not like docs are some optional "luxury" |
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09-10-2004, 06:06 AM
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Us webmasters have to understand that when we get content from a provider such as SoBeGirl you are not buying the content. You are leasing it. You never own it. The producer owns it. Look at any web license agreement. It gives you the Webmaster a right to use the content in a particular way. Therefore the docs are not intrinsic in that right.
Until the laws pass giving out the docs is an extra service. SoBe told me this when I bought the content the first time. He said you could get the docs for a small extra fee or go without them and save some money. I choose to purchase them because I know that it builds value into my purchase and only costs me a little bit. I choose to go with SoBeGirl for my bulk buy because after contacting him I found that he was the most up front and honest provider out there. He had the largest selection and the best service. I paid with a credit card and downloaded my entire order of 200 sets. You all are always poking fun at http://www.************* but I can see that you are all jealous of his great and continued success. I think that after the content blowouts happened almost all other content providers besides SoBeGirl who do resale content are gone and out of business. SoBeGirl still sells new release sets for as low as 10 dollars each including the docs. While most other content providers selling re sale content (not exclusive) are gone or the ones that are still around have not updated their sites in months ? SoBeGirl continues to rock on. Any of you who buy affordable content for whatever reason should be thankful SoBeGirl is still around, still producing and still providing great affordable deals. |
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09-10-2004, 06:37 AM
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all the other people he fucked are ALL Liars, right ?????? Go home man and Fuck OFF and be happy that no one will take you motherfuckers down......... |
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09-10-2004, 07:05 AM
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I have not seen anyone that was fucked over by sobe. You think you were but I don't think you were. I was in the same position as you. I chose to purchase the docs for 2 dollars extra.
You are cheap to do it and that is why I am happy I have them. There are several people in this thread that say it is OK what SoBe is doing. Read the posts. I am sorry you are not making money with your content you got from sobe because I have made my money back 20 times and more already. Check out my site. I suggest you contact him and work it out. Make a deal. It seems that you will not be happy until you get everything for FREE. Even though you got the content at an insanely low price you are just cheap and will not be happy until all is FREE. Be reasonable and I am sure SoBe will too. He was with me. |
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09-10-2004, 07:18 AM
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Crazy1- THE DUDE IS A FUCKIN' SCAM artist, he's always been... Take it from someone who knows his local reputation as well as his reps with WEBMASTERS... I provide content, and that's NOT how you win friends, and do business.
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09-10-2004, 07:27 AM
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Disgraceful .. If you purchase content then personally speaking, the id's/documentation should be freely available to the customer, whenever they want it.
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