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Discuss what's fucking going on, and which programs are best and worst. One-time "program" announcements from "established" webmasters are allowed.

 
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:31 AM   #1
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Common for PPS programs to shave?

Im not going to say which program I have in question but here is my situation.

My sales were strong with a PPS program averaging 1:500 for 2 months.

Once I emailed the programs support team and left a few messages in their forum I think i broght attention to my account. "hmm lets see if this guy is retaining".

Now emmediately after using their forum and contacting support with a question my sales are averaging 1:4500.

I havent had a ratio drop that fast and that bad in all my years in this business.

Do you think that its common for PPS programs to take a peak at your account after you email or have a question for them? Will they set a shave if your rentention sucks??

I questioned the program about it and they said they have the longest beard in the business.
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:33 AM   #2
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It happens, difficult to find the ones that do shave though.

Ask them for a membership pass, and see if you think it's worth it to promote rev share wise.

There are a couple of strong rev share programs out there which make you more than the PPS programs.

Hit me up if you need help
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:41 AM   #3
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there are sponsors out there who offer PPS and also revshare. I mostly test both of the options, its weird that when I buy some spots, I get mostly much more hits to the revshare program, than from the same gallery, same amount of traffic to the PPS program, also more sales, of course. But when I compared the long term incomes, the numbers were very similar. So at least the programs knows how to shave. lol
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:45 AM   #4
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Perhaps your bookmarkers got tired of seeing the same old shit? Perhaps your trades bookmarkers did also? Did they recently make changes to the tour?
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:54 AM   #5
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Perhaps your bookmarkers got tired of seeing the same old shit? Perhaps your trades bookmarkers did also? Did they recently make changes to the tour?

I very rarely change my sponsors on my sites. I use thumbnail links with a text link under them naming the site. I do change the thumbnails ever so often. The thumbs up now are the same ones I had when doing 1:500. I just have this awful feeling my account was reviewed and because my retention wasnt high enough its being skimmed now.

I will say the word PIMP is in the sponsors name. eh hem...
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Old 09-22-2004, 02:56 AM   #6
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Can you recommend a sponsor with Ebony sites that you KNOW doesnt shave? Id really appreciate it. I already use ClickmeMedia, they are great but also saturated within my trades.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:00 AM   #7
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I will say the word PIMP is in the sponsors name. eh hem...
Like that wasn't a dead giveaway. I haven't promoted them but their tours look promising. Sign up a new account and see what happens with your ratios.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:03 AM   #8
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There are quite a few sponsors with the word PIMP in it. haha. But if you say so...

Yeah i was told before anytime my sales ratio drops drastically, to sign up for a new account. Im tired of this deception!
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:06 AM   #9
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There are quite a few sponsors with the word PIMP in it. haha. But if you say so...

Yeah i was told before anytime my sales ratio drops drastically, to sign up for a new account. Im tired of this deception!
I clicked through to your site and saw the sponsor you are referring to right away.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:08 AM   #10
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Can you recommend a sponsor with Ebony sites that you KNOW doesnt shave? Id really appreciate it. I already use ClickmeMedia, they are great but also saturated within my trades.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:08 AM   #11
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HAHAHA! OPPPPSSS!!! Im not admitting anything. hehe!
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:10 AM   #12
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Im not going to say which program I have in question but here is my situation.

My sales were strong with a PPS program averaging 1:500 for 2 months.

Once I emailed the programs support team and left a few messages in their forum I think i broght attention to my account. "hmm lets see if this guy is retaining".

Now emmediately after using their forum and contacting support with a question my sales are averaging 1:4500.
if they were converting at 1:4500 and after complaining, you would convert at 1:500, that would be an indication that they were shaving before.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:12 AM   #13
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if they were converting at 1:4500 and after complaining, you would convert at 1:500, that would be an indication that they were shaving before.
I was converting at 1:500 and after complaining I converted at 1:4500. I think you had it backwards.
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Old 09-22-2004, 03:16 AM   #14
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I was converting at 1:500 and after complaining I converted at 1:4500. I think you had it backwards.
I know what you meant.... I am just saying that if you had it this way, i don't think they are shaving.
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