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Who cares who was holding the sign? At what age is it ok to assault someone and destroy their property because you disagree with their politics?

what's your point?
are you excusing these scumbags at the ball game or the ones at the airport?

Interesting...... Are you referring the Democratic National convention? The one in Boston where they kept the supporter locked up in big cages? Are those the "republicans" that you are referring to?

Just wondering...

you obviously missed the DNC and the fenced in, tarped over area for the protesters showing up there. :Oh crap

that's exactly what the sign tearer was thinkin as well.

i'm from canaduh, and we even watch in hopeless disbelief that bush actually has people who support his totally moronic ass.

No I am refering to the designated protest zones that are in place anytime Bush is in town.

If someone is violent or starting a riot they should be locked in cages regardless of the party they support.

I'm excusing neither. My point speaks to society in America today. Thought that was obvious?

So I guess you would assault Bush supporters in order to impose your opinion on them?

hmmmmm..... I guess that National Sociolism isn't dead after all...

guess she never served in Vietnam

liberals are well known for their violent protests, conservatives are not.

(think WTO protests, they aren't conservatives or republicans)

the violent rabble need to be kept away from the president. I understand this seems new to you but the facts are, there was never a need to protect clinton from conservative protesters. this liberal rabble needs to be kept far away from Bush.

The protesters in Boston were not violent. The Democrats had the cages set up before the protesters got there, they kept ALL of them inside of the cages.

When Clinton was president, protestors were kept away from him also.......they ALWAYS are kept back from sitting presidents for security reasons. ALL presidents.

what was obvious is your lack of condemnation of the assault on a 3yr old.

Do dems were forced to remove a pro-kerry T-shirt, arrested and handcuffed at a Rep gathering.
That never and will never happen .... :1orglaugh

Your sig says it all, "I'm the brick wall"

quote 12clicks current sig:
"I'm the brick wall morons bang their head against"

So call me the moron and lets moveon.org

Protecting a president is one thing. Making it so a protester can not be heard is another. I wasnt at the DNC in Boston so I don't know the location of this protected area that protesters were put in but I do know Bush is famous for making it impossible for protestors to be heard above and beyond security.

We're all someones children.

In related news, A woman was arrested for heckling laura bush today.

:glugglug

he is mainly concerned about " been shown ".

You NEVER see a protester or a protest sign.
You do see unanimous cheering people and mostly you see him waving constantly ( coming down from the plane ) to a possible crowd. But I think there is nobody when he waves as such, otherwise a shot of the crowd would be done on the spot.

How about at the point someone shoves it in their face. If you were to shove a sign in my face you'd be lucky if that's all that got tore up.:glugglug

In this day and age....if Kerry wins, you will see the same kind of security around him.

Where did you see that it was shoved in anyones face? They were standing at a fence...facing the fence. How could they "shove it in their face"?

BTW, this happened to me at an anti-war rally in Miami. I came with a sign that was for the war, and people were grabbing at it, trying to pull it down..... the only difference was that I'm 6'4" and I held it out of their hands....and pushed back at the people that were pushing at me, but I've seen firsthand how anti-bush protesters act towards people that don't agree with them.:2 cents:

That was the point of a couple of my previous posts. We have no clue what happened. The original poster embellished the story that the girl was holding the sign and that it was thrown back at her while people cheered.

Besides not being able to find any legit source that supports that, we are left with a pic that suggests that after whatever happened her dad stood there calmly and posed for a pic while she cried while pushing a piece of a sign in her hand.

A picture may be worth 1000 words, but you can attatch 1000 words to any pic.:2 cents:

This story is useless without video.

father is guilty of child endangerment

Almost as bad as dangling a baby out a window:glugglug

Actually, I heard the father interviewed this morning on the radio. He was holding a sign, and so was his daughter. They were both taken, and, as far as "posed for a pic", the father says that he turned around and left as soon as it happened. When someone takes a pic in the middle of the action, the action is frozen.... This was obviously a moment after the thug in the green hat had grabbed the sign, the father still has to take several seconds to assess the situation, and turn around and get out of there......"calmly stood for a pic"? Give me a break!

I don't see how ANY person that grabs ANYONE ELSE'S sign because they don't agree with them is justified. That just seems common sense to me.....NO MATTER WHICH SIDE OF THE FENCE YOUR ON

....and the people that assaulted them are guily of what? Nothing? I don't see your point at all... Don't you think that the other people were wrong? I bet if it was your child, or baby sister, or whatever, YOU would be kicking some ass out there.

It's pretty clear you don't have kids. A three year old has a "traumatic situation" on average of once per hour.

please don't make laugh :1orglaugh

That's not nice.

I bet if this was at a Bush rally you guys would be crucifying him for hating children already...

These guys made some documentaries about what happens
when people from the "right" show up at "left" protests.

http://www.protestwarrior.com/

I would assume similar footage exists from the other perspective; I've just never seen it.
:helpme

it was ALL PLANNED PEOPLE!!!
Bush scarifaces your kids in rally's now
knows people are gonan act that way

that or Iam just losing it
eitehr way.. had to give my :2 cents:

now :321GFY

Election year drama......

lol, was she at a kerry edwards speech or something? if so that was dumb

Translation: I refuse to condemn the assault of a 3 yr old.

Who cares? You see people that watch Fox too much forget the importance to find the truth. How do we know they were at a kerry rally? I dont see any kerry signs or shirts or buttons? How do we know she was the one that tore it up and was crying because she didnt want to be at the boring rally anymore. Also How can you and 12 clicks even have the balls to talk about freedom of speech. When it was a ok for a Boss to fire a worker over a Kerry bumper stick. The couple that was arrested on the 4 th of july for wearing anti bush t shirts at a bush rally. The woman that was arrested for asking the first lady why did my son die.

just to expose your liberal bullshit, lets take this piece by piece.
fair enough, you don't know because you weren't there.

so you weren't there either but because Bush isn't your man, you'll believe what you'd like to.

typical liberal rabble.

The assult has been condemed already asshat! Most people here have already said it was fucking wrong.

Now condemn the asshole that put his daughter in harms way.

I bet you won't :winkwink:

Its because you are a righ wing moron hypocrite :)

great post :thumbsup

:thumbsup

The voice of reason is always so soothing :)

luckily for you, you don't need your brains to make a living.
I know the facts because I hear the father interviewed.
I also clearly see the "IUPAI for Keryy Edwards" shirt on the scumbag to the left.

who said it was ok? me? grow up child. Business owners always need rabble for meanial tasks. I think he's wrong and foolish to fire her.
There's no need to lie, honey. When you cause a disturbance near the president or first lady, you are arrested.
pretending that the couple "were only" wearing anti bush shirts and the woman was "only asking mrs. Bush" is a lie.

stop embarrassing yourself child.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh


Honestly I think it's the fathers fault for taking his daughter to an opposing candidates rally to taunt them.

You can clearly see the asshat on the left with some of the sign still crumbled in his hand. The same asshat that probably supports Kerry/Edwards because he knows that eventually his family is going to depend on welfare and food stamps. Fucking loser! :321GFY

And comparing a Bush supporter holding a sign at a Kerry rally to going into a Mosque holding a sign saying Muslims suck is just plain asinine!

True...

Like here, for the Gay Pride Parade, I didn't bring my sign that said:

" You dipshit faggot little boy abusers "

A friend of mine said it could be perceived as provocation ... I think he was right ...

Stop embarrasing yourself, self-righteous asshole.

You listened to an interview with the father? WOW! I bet everything he had to say was nothing but the truth :1orglaugh

And how the FUCK do you know anything that happened in ANY of these events? You just automatically assume everyting you make up in your mind is correct and what everyone else has seen in video footage is incorrect?


12clicks would have us all believe he is the almighty messiah seeing as how he seems to have the perfect handle on everything and he is right about everything and he seems to have also seen everything there is to see.

Your to easy to get at dude its like beating up a 3 year old :winkwink:

OK, so there was a thug in a green hat. This is why I was digging for details. The original post said "sign torn up by Kerry-Edwards supporters" which apparently boils down to 1 person who apparently behaved badly regardless of what if anything provoked him.

The original post went on to say "The sign was then thrown back at the little girl while other Kerry supporters cheered." If the father "left as soon as it happened" the picture doesn't support a bunch of people around cheering. I see mostly people that look unaware that something has happened or slightly aware/confused about what is happening. One guy right next to them is smiling toward the girl like he has said something to try to console her crying and a lady who doesn't appear to be cheering but shouting. She could be yawning or yelling at him for having the child in the middle of his dispute.

Again, I'm not condoning anyone's actions, I just wanted to sort out the story which apparently was obviously quite embellished by the original poster.

why? its clear your father imposed his stupidity upon you before you could make an informed choice.

Link? Video? Pics with the girl holding the sign? Did the sign even say anything pro Bush?

Maybe Daddy tore up the sign and pinched her on the leg...
Maybe the girl tore up the sign in a furious rage because she couldn't get any candy...

This thread is wothless :glugglug

With a deep passion. Kerry supporters are, in fact, even cannibalistic by nature.. she's lucky to be alive really, she looks like a very tasty morsel.