I believe you can be a slodier and then a christian by salvation.... but I do not believe you can go to kill and call yourself a christian at the same time...
it is the ulimate oxymoron.
christians believe that they live after god takes them from here anyway, so why would they fear death enough to break one of the holiest of comandments?
and if they are killing to fight somekind of evil, do they not have enough faith in God to fight that battle?
it is I would propose impossible to be both at the same time.
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Originally posted by Joesho I believe it is impossible, an oxymoron....
I believe you can be a slodier and then a christian by salvation.... but I do not believe you can go to kill and call yourself a christian at the same time...
it is the ulimate oxymoron.
christians believe that they live after god takes them from here anyway, so why would they fear death enough to break one of the holiest of comandments?
and if they are killing to fight somekind of evil, do they not have enough faith in God to fight that battle?
it is I would propose impossible to be both at the same time.
I have to say, sometimes you make me shake my head in dismay
Originally posted by <IMX> Can you be in the military AND a "true" christian?
I'm watching this fundamentalist christian general...on 60 minutes very interesting...
Hmmm. I would answer "of course". As a matter of fact I think a more challenging question is the reverse; can you be a Christian in America and a pacifist at the same time?
Afterall, there is a huge difference between following the (reported) teachings of Jesus Christ and being a Christian...
Most would say that Jesus Christ cared for the poor; yet American Christians overwhelmingly vote Republican and against any social programs to help the poor.
Most would say that Jesus Christ was a peaceful man; yet many American Christians would rather be dead than denied their firearm ("from my cold, dead fingers").
Most would say that Jesus Christ would not support the death penalty; Christians overwhelmingly do.
Most would say that Jesus Christ didn't believe in vengance; Christians do, of course.
Most would say that Jesus Christ railed against religious hierarchy and the injustice it inevitably creates; yet Christians give billions to their church leaders, and stand by them even as they cover-up the molestation of children.
Modern Christianity has nothing to do with Jesus Christ.
I would say that Christians have exactly the mean streak and the killer instinct that American military recruiters are looking for - and they come in with minds that have been demonstrated to be easily molded to boot.
I've heard people say that fundamentalist Christians have infiltrated and taken over the Republican party. I don't know about that - I think it's the reverse - the bullies have infiltrated and taken over Christianity.
Killing your enemies is not at all against the bible, it happens throughout the entire book. Killing someone who is not your enemy is against biblical teachings. Therefore, being a soldier is not only compatible with christianity, but darn near mandatory.
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"Just as a man who has fallen into a heap of filth ought to seek the great pond of water covered with lotuses, which is near by: even so seek thou for the great deathless lake of Nirvana to wash off the defilement of wrong. If the lake is not sought, it is not the fault of the lake."
The answer has to depend on whether you define a Christian as someone who believes in Christ and his teachings, or merely as someone who is nominally a member of a "Christian" church.
Let's face it, if JC appeared in any so-called Christian country today, hardly a line of the new testament would need changing. Alter the place names, update the language, and you are done...
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