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  • PetMyKitty
    Confirmed User
    • Oct 2002
    • 195

    #1

    the hun is black listing registrars now?

    dang.. gotta use certain domain registrars or you won't be listed.

    hmmmmmmm

    ..............................
    from the hun submission


    Congrats, you're confirmed as a human beeing

    Checking blacklist... Doesn't appear on the blacklist

    Sorry, you registered through Parave Networks, they protect whois information and seem to be a safe haven for a lot of cheaters. I can't link to domains registered through Parava anymore


    ......................................

    i'm only at Parava cuz their domains are $10 and they've been a stable registar for my domains for 4 years.. not cuz i'm hiding out..

    but i guess he can do what he wants to it's his tgp!
  • uvort
    Confirmed User
    • Mar 2003
    • 3580

    #2
    Wow... thats pretty insane
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    • mattyboy
      Confirmed User
      • Mar 2003
      • 1070

      #3
      I got that to from domains purchased from Registerfly

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      • block
        Confirmed User
        • Jan 2004
        • 1258

        #4
        Hmm.. that sucks. Damn cheaters ruin it for everyone

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        • Dirty F
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jul 2001
          • 59204

          #5
          Dont blame the Hun, blame all the cheaters. Hes a number 1 target for cheaters and needs to protect himself.

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          • skinnay
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            • Apr 2004
            • 2274

            #6
            i hope godaddy is ok
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            • Strife
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              • Aug 2001
              • 4534

              #7
              wow...that's going a little too far.
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              • Reak
                So Fucking Banned
                • Mar 2003
                • 17920

                #8
                Originally posted by PetMyKitty

                but i guess he can do what he wants to it's his tgp!
                anyone can.

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                • Tempest
                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                  • May 2004
                  • 10217

                  #9
                  That's funny.. I banned Parava almost half a year ago.

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                  • deleteduser
                    Confirmed User
                    • Sep 2001
                    • 2218

                    #10
                    Originally posted by skinnay
                    i hope godaddy is ok
                    hahahha godaddy is the first registrar that pops into my mind when i think about fake whois.
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                    • Manowar
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                      • Dec 2003
                      • 71528

                      #11
                      im sure the profit from being listed will outweigh the fees from a different registrar

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                      • pradaboy
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                        • Dec 2003
                        • 12931

                        #12
                        yup you can't even use whois protection coz he won't list ya... I had to take it off my domain
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                        • Reak
                          So Fucking Banned
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 17920

                          #13
                          Originally posted by CeKilleR
                          hahahha godaddy is the first registrar that pops into my mind when i think about fake whois.
                          what he said

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                          • Drake
                            Hello world!
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 12508

                            #14
                            It improves the quality of the listings that make it on the hun. Less cheaters, more traffic for all the honest webmasters. Unfortunately being able to hide behind whois protection will attract cheaters to that service.

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                            • Tanker
                              Confirmed User
                              • Nov 2000
                              • 9287

                              #15
                              he can do it if he wants

                              he gets thousands of submits a day if he can weed out the cheaters by not allowing certain registrars or hell anyone whos domain that starts with the letter S he will still have to many submits each day so for that he gets props


                              by the way Patrick is a kick ass guy I have been to his house a few times always the best hospitality. Patrick doesnt fuck anyone around so if he can prevent them from fucking him around that awesome

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                              • Tanker
                                Confirmed User
                                • Nov 2000
                                • 9287

                                #16
                                and he has the best sushi catered in too

                                thank patrick for the many dinners and viewings of your robot lawn mower

                                see you soon

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                                • emthree
                                  Dialer Kingpin
                                  • Jun 2003
                                  • 10816

                                  #17
                                  Someone please go bother him for an official ban list.

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                                  • johndoebob
                                    Confirmed User
                                    • Mar 2004
                                    • 3405

                                    #18
                                    Originally posted by emthree
                                    Someone please go bother him for an official ban list.
                                    He seems to check a lot, never got listed because of my EV1 server (also banned).

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                                    • Johny Traffic
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                                      • Apr 2003
                                      • 5461

                                      #19
                                      I got that to from domains purchased from Registerfly
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                                      • cali_22
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                                        • Oct 2002
                                        • 2330

                                        #20
                                        hes " the hun "cause the guy is sharp as a tack and does not miss out on anything

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                                        • polish_aristocrat
                                          Too lazy to set a custom title
                                          • Jul 2002
                                          • 40377

                                          #21
                                          That seriously sucks, that would be like banning all Russian webmasters because many of them are cheaters.

                                          ( sure affiliate programs do it, by I haven't heard of TGP's doing it ).


                                          But then again, it's his site.
                                          I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                          • HarlotCash Dyker
                                            Confirmed User
                                            • Sep 2003
                                            • 1828

                                            #22
                                            Originally posted by Tanker
                                            he can do it if he wants

                                            he gets thousands of submits a day if he can weed out the cheaters by not allowing certain registrars or hell anyone whos domain that starts with the letter S he will still have to many submits each day so for that he gets props


                                            by the way Patrick is a kick ass guy I have been to his house a few times always the best hospitality. Patrick doesnt fuck anyone around so if he can prevent them from fucking him around that awesome

                                            Never met the guy, but for certain he has put up with a load of shit over the years.
                                            He has the best tgp and a simple few rules to follow - Follow them and there is cash to be made right down to the overflow. Those fools who try to screw him, are actually screwing every webmaster (Re the theme of this thread).

                                            At the end of the day, got nothing to hide and no reason to hide it? Get registered somewhere else compatible with the Dutch guy's rules.
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                                            • garett
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Mar 2004
                                              • 683

                                              #23
                                              I blacklist Parava .. and it seems that a lot of other sites do now too (like the hun obviously).

                                              The reason is because I've just had too many issues with domains registered there. I've only come accross one site that was registered there who I'm just starting to trust as a trade partner.

                                              But I get cheaters every single day trying to get partner accounts to my TGPs and traffic trades .. they all do percentage redirects to dialers etc. and they're all registered at Parava.

                                              Sorry to say it .. I know it's descrimination and I'm sure some honest webmasters register with them .. but it just seems like they're a safe haven for cheaters as Mr. Hun said.

                                              If you want $10 domains register through maindomain.com or namecheap.com.

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                                              • SleazyDream
                                                I'm here for SPORT
                                                • Jul 2001
                                                • 41470

                                                #24
                                                that's a GREAT idea. my hat goes off to the hun - AWESOME.
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                                                • MrJackMeHoff
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                                                  • Mar 2004
                                                  • 4569

                                                  #25
                                                  I wouldnt go thru too much trouble over it as quality traffic goes the hun is at the bottom of the bottom list.

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                                                  • More Booze
                                                    Confirmed User
                                                    • Mar 2004
                                                    • 5116

                                                    #26
                                                    50% of all submissions he gets is probably from cheaters. I cant blame him.
                                                    I would go with paid spots only if I where him. *dreaming*

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                                                    • johndoebob
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                                                      • Mar 2004
                                                      • 3405

                                                      #27
                                                      Originally posted by More Booze
                                                      50% of all submissions he gets is probably from cheaters. I cant blame him.
                                                      I would go with paid spots only if I where him. *dreaming*
                                                      Everybody would be willing to pay, even the cheaters, it'd be the same thing again beside those crazy submissions are missing.

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                                                      • Crypt
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Apr 2004
                                                        • 2225

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                        Everybody would be willing to pay, even the cheaters, it'd be the same thing again beside those crazy submissions are missing.
                                                        no, cheaters will move to another registrar

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                                                        • More Booze
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Mar 2004
                                                          • 5116

                                                          #29
                                                          Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                          Everybody would be willing to pay, even the cheaters, it'd be the same thing again beside those crazy submissions are missing.
                                                          Hmm maybe, but what about ~250$/year or something just to be able to submit, not a guaranteed listing.
                                                          I dont think the cheaters really afford to pay 250$ for every listed gallery that they redirect to their shit.
                                                          Or maybe they can, it depends on how fast thehun deletes it.

                                                          Im glad its not my problem heh...

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                                                          • zentz
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Nov 2003
                                                            • 8062

                                                            #30
                                                            so if i protect my whois info on registerfly i wont be able to submit my galleries ?
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                                                            • polish_aristocrat
                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                              • Jul 2002
                                                              • 40377

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by zentz
                                                              so if i protect my whois info on registerfly i wont be able to submit my galleries ?
                                                              Apparently yes.

                                                              I started my own thread about it and it seemed like only GoDaddy's whois feature is blacklisted.

                                                              http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...ighlight=whois

                                                              Now it seems like every domain registrar who offers whois protection will get blacklisted.

                                                              I understand the reasons behind it ( eliminating cheaters ) but there are also guys who have been already submitting for years and - - for privacy reasons - want to switch to anonymous whois and won't be able to do it.

                                                              Blacklisting whole registrars isn't a good slution, simply because many cheaters use fake whois anyway ( it's easier and cheaper ). So the honest guy who wants to order whois privacy for his domain won't be able to submit, and the real cheater won't care about it, since he will simply put fake whois info for his domain, like many people ( including top GFY posters ) do.
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                                                              • Nysus
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Aug 2001
                                                                • 7817

                                                                #32
                                                                They're all offering it. GoDaddy, NameCheap to name two bigger ones... Network Solutions likely will too to try to increase revenues.

                                                                Mind you, I believe it really should be default.

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                                                                • Lee
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                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                  • 2977

                                                                  #33
                                                                  There is one cheater in particular right now who uses that registrar for shitloads of domains, goes by the name of Sven Olafsson or something like that.

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                                                                  • Honeyslut
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                                                                    • Jan 2001
                                                                    • 6436

                                                                    #34
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                                                                    • alexg
                                                                      IL4L.com
                                                                      • Aug 2003
                                                                      • 11287

                                                                      #35
                                                                      wow... that's a new step in security

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                                                                      • Za Ha
                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                        • Oct 2001
                                                                        • 5112

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Stop crying.
                                                                        He doesnt need to list your gals if he doesnt want to.
                                                                        If you dont like the rules, dont submit.

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                                                                        • slavdogg
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Jan 2001
                                                                          • 3570

                                                                          #37
                                                                          Hun has once again showed himself to be a moron
                                                                          but who can blame him, he's allowed to be a moron for as long as gfy sheep support him.
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                                                                          • garett
                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                            • Mar 2004
                                                                            • 683

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                            Hun has once again showed himself to be a moron
                                                                            but who can blame him, he's allowed to be a moron for as long as gfy sheep support him.
                                                                            He's allowed to be a "moron" for however long he runs his own site.

                                                                            The Hun doesn't owe anything to anyone .. not to GFY .. not to his submitters .. not to the cheaters etc.

                                                                            I run TGPs and I can completely understand where he's coming from. There just isn't enough time during the day to do a freakin' background check on every single submission to weed out the possible cheaters.

                                                                            Time is better spent growing traffic and making money so you can relax and not have to worry about how so many people out there want to screw over everyone else to make a dime.

                                                                            The TGP world is headed towards partner only .. and after the partners start cheating .. FHG only.

                                                                            The only reason webmasters list submitted gals to begin with is to offer variety to their bookmarkers. But the time will come where it's less time consuming just to make 20-30 new galleries promoting different sponsors each day themselves than to weed through all the submitteted gals that are fucking over their surfers and hurting your traffic.

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                                                                            • jawanda
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Feb 2003
                                                                              • 6040

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
                                                                              I wouldnt go thru too much trouble over it as quality traffic goes the hun is at the bottom of the bottom list.
                                                                              You are an idiot.

                                                                              -P

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                                                                              • bluff
                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                • Jan 2004
                                                                                • 6253

                                                                                #40
                                                                                Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                Hun has once again showed himself to be a moron
                                                                                but who can blame him, he's allowed to be a moron for as long as gfy sheep support him.
                                                                                explain such bashing

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                                                                                • jimmyf
                                                                                  OU812
                                                                                  • Feb 2001
                                                                                  • 12651

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by Manowar
                                                                                  im sure the profit from being listed will outweigh the fees from a different registrar

                                                                                  yep
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                                                                                  • jimmyf
                                                                                    OU812
                                                                                    • Feb 2001
                                                                                    • 12651

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Originally posted by bluff
                                                                                    explain such bashing

                                                                                    they can't
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                                                                                    • Big Monkie
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                                                                                      • Feb 2003
                                                                                      • 382

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      Originally posted by johndoebob
                                                                                      Everybody would be willing to pay, even the cheaters, it'd be the same thing again beside those crazy submissions are missing.
                                                                                      Not if it was done correctly. If you require payment by credit card or debit card or certain other means, even if its for small money, it identifies people. The way tgps try to control fraud now by banning domains etc is just stupid and always has been. Its the PEOPLE who need to be banned. Otherwise you are just wasting time, both yours and honest submitters.
                                                                                      I dont understand why Patrick and other industry leaders havent gotten together and formed some type of system for a submitters permit or something similar. Most other tgps and possibly linklists too would quickly begin to require it because identifying people is the only real way to cut down the cheating by any significant amount. Banning domains, ip ranges, and even registrars is bullshit and doesnt work very well anyway. And does the hun have all of his banned info posted anywhere? No. You probably have people submitting for months and not having any idea their registrar is banned. This is just more bullshit from the tgps which will affect honest people more than anyone else. And like most of the other methods they use to deal with cheating, it wont work.

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                                                                                      • garett
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Mar 2004
                                                                                        • 683

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        Originally posted by Big Monkie
                                                                                        Not if it was done correctly. If you require payment by credit card or debit card or certain other means, even if its for small money, it identifies people. The way tgps try to control fraud now by banning domains etc is just stupid and always has been. Its the PEOPLE who need to be banned. Otherwise you are just wasting time, both yours and honest submitters.
                                                                                        I dont understand why Patrick and other industry leaders havent gotten together and formed some type of system for a submitters permit or something similar. Most other tgps and possibly linklists too would quickly begin to require it because identifying people is the only real way to cut down the cheating by any significant amount. Banning domains, ip ranges, and even registrars is bullshit and doesnt work very well anyway. And does the hun have all of his banned info posted anywhere? No. You probably have people submitting for months and not having any idea their registrar is banned. This is just more bullshit from the tgps which will affect honest people more than anyone else. And like most of the other methods they use to deal with cheating, it wont work.
                                                                                        You're absolutely right that honest webmasters will get hit hard .. and do get hit hard by this. Cheating hurts everyone.

                                                                                        And as a submitter I hate to say this ... but why should a TGP webmaster take all the time and resources to work out the "perfect system" for indentifying submitters etc. ???

                                                                                        Personally, I want to spend my time building traffic and profiting. When I list submitted galleries I'm giving away free traffic .. sure it helps make my bookmarkers happy but there are alternatives even if it means slightly more work.

                                                                                        The fact is I don't have the time or the patience to deal with BS .. so I just won't. I've gone partner only and if my partners start cheating on me then fuck it .. if they can't play honest they won't play at all .. I'll go FHG only .. I've already got a DB with over 1k of FHG gals .. it would simply take one click to delete all submitted gals from my TGPs.

                                                                                        And I'm sure I'm not the only TGP owner who feels that way and would do similar.

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                                                                                        • Living For Today
                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                          • Feb 2002
                                                                                          • 3970

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by slavdogg
                                                                                          Hun has once again showed himself to be a moron
                                                                                          but who can blame him, he's allowed to be a moron for as long as gfy sheep support him.
                                                                                          you are a fuckin tool. thats all.

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                                                                                          • Big Monkie
                                                                                            Confirmed User
                                                                                            • Feb 2003
                                                                                            • 382

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            Originally posted by garett
                                                                                            why should a TGP webmaster take all the time and resources to work out the "perfect system" for indentifying submitters?
                                                                                            Mainly because it would save them a lot of time and aggravation in the long run. I can only imagine what a hassle it is for guys like the hun to deal with all the fucktards out there, i wonder how many hours he and his staff waste every week dealing with it. Your point is well taken about saying fuck it and going completely partner or fhg, thats for sure what i would do too. And in the huns case you know he could sell every single spot everyday for damn nice money. You and i would probably agree that the benefits he gets from accepting public submissions isnt worth the hassle, but he obviously thinks different and thats his right. My point is, if you are gonna do that then why not do it right? It should be obvious after all these years that banning domains and similar stuff doesnt work very well. As a tgp owner, forget about fairness and convenience for submitters, just from your own standpoint, if you take public submissions the type of system i suggested would save you a lot of time and trouble. Some major players like the hun, shemp, and others could get together and establish such a system, which would pay for itself and solve a lot of problems. It wouldnt be perfect, but the way things are done now arent worth a damn for either owners or honest submitters. But you know who it IS good for, because there sure are a lot of them out there.

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                                                                                            • Basic_man
                                                                                              Programming King Pin
                                                                                              • Oct 2003
                                                                                              • 27360

                                                                                              #47
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                                                                                              • polish_aristocrat
                                                                                                Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                • Jul 2002
                                                                                                • 40377

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Originally posted by Living For Today
                                                                                                you are a fuckin tool. thats all.
                                                                                                But I am quite sure he makes more $$$ than The Hun
                                                                                                I don't use ICQ anymore.

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                                                                                                • M_M
                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                  • May 2004
                                                                                                  • 1167

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Originally posted by PetMyKitty
                                                                                                  but i guess he can do what he wants to it's his tgp!
                                                                                                  that sums it up
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                                                                                                  • WicKed NinJas
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                                                                                                    • Jun 2003
                                                                                                    • 965

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    Originally posted by Lee
                                                                                                    There is one cheater in particular right now who uses that registrar for shitloads of domains, goes by the name of Sven Olafsson or something like that.

                                                                                                    FUCK SVEN that dirty fuckin piece of shit.
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