Who here honestly thinks Iraq is less a threat now?

[eroswebmaster]

Before we had a nation that was crippled, but we at least had a dictator in place who would keep things in check.

Now we have control of what less than 50% of the country and more and more insurgents coming in and disrupting things and the potential for a theocracy to develop.

I never fully supported the war, only those subjected to following orders..but if you truly think Iraq is less of a threat now you are sadly mistaken.

Not even humanitarian agencies are safe now.

[Danny_C]

No responses... interesting.

[FlyingIguana]

they weren't a threat before...

korea and iran are much bigger threats than iraq ever was

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
they weren't a threat before...

korea and iran are much bigger threats than iraq ever was

And while we have wasted our time in Iraq they have grown to be even more dangerous.

[TheLegacy]

well from a friendly neighbours point of view, I really dont think its a threat anymore, but the damage must be cleaned up.

As much as he needed to be removed from power I still feel the whole war was a shot in the dark - yet only time will tell whether it had any effect on terrorism or simply made USA look like a bully and lost any worldwide sympathy it had gotten from 9/11

Now russia has the sympathy and its president isnt all to happy with USA.

What im interested in is how you see Iraq as being a threat worldwide on terrorism rather than to USA forces and their safety

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by TheLegacy
well from a friendly neighbours point of view, I really dont think its a threat anymore, but the damage must be cleaned up.

As much as he needed to be removed from power I still feel the whole war was a shot in the dark - yet only time will tell whether it had any effect on terrorism or simply made USA look like a bully and lost any worldwide sympathy it had gotten from 9/11

Now russia has the sympathy and its president isnt all to happy with USA.

What im interested in is how you see Iraq as being a threat worldwide on terrorism rather than to USA forces and their safety

I think you misunderstood my post..or maybe I misunderstood yours.

I never thought Iraq was a threat worldwide, but I think it at least was a contained area...now it's not even contained...Iraq is now more dangerous than it ever was. Not necessarily to us in the US, but to those having to deal with Iraq directly...and if and when we ever do pull out then it may grow to be a worldwide threat.

[justsexxx]

Stupid W Bush proberly

[FlyingIguana]

eros your sig makes me giggle

[CDSmith]

Any country where the situation is so volatile that it could spark more major disputes and even potentially erupt into world war III certainly is a threat.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Before we had a nation that was crippled, but we at least had a dictator in place who would keep things in check.

ahahahaha, yeah, all the world needs is a couple more dictators and you're all set, right brainiac?

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by 12clicks
ahahahaha, yeah, all the world needs is a couple more dictators and you're all set, right brainiac?

You oversimplify things...and seem to forget our history of putting dictators in place to do specifically that job.

[<IMX>]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
You oversimplify things...and seem to forget our history of putting dictators in place to do specifically that job.

interesting...

[Dead13]

Not only do I believe they were no threat before, but we have mass amounts of evidence to prove they were not a threat.

I do not feel Iraq itself is a bigger threat now than before, however I do feel we are much more unsecure because of our actions in Iraq.

We have provided all Al Queada or any other terror group all the recruiting tools they needed. Anyone who was on the fence before is now a terrorist and I am sure an entire generation of children who have just had their parents slaughtered and/or whitnessed the slaughtering or parents, and children are more than willing to become future participants aginst America.

Yes have created an entire generation of future terrorist, and I believe we have added to the current list far more than we killed or arrested in the past.

We have made Iraq a dangerous unlawful and unsecure trading ground for dangerous weapons that are a threat to America as terrorist can now get in and out without being detected at all.

If that was not a big enough problem we have turned a blind eye to Iran and North Korea to allow them to continue to build their necular programs and to upgrade their armies in preperation for our attacks against them. I would assume their intelligence has also been studying the hell out of our military actions so they can counter plan and attack and they know our responces to anything that ever happens now thus making future American soldiers sitting ducks and bait for traps and ambushes.

We have spread our military far to thin, we do not have enough soldiers to finish the job in Iraq, and we do not have enough to fight the war on terror, and we are not exactly signing them up by the thousands. No way in hell we could ever go to war with another country at this moment. If we are attacked by China, North Korea, or Iran we are by far way more than fucked.

We have spread our budget to thin, we are in constant danger of attacks against us at home because we do not have the money to create homeland defense. Anyone who says we are safer now is a liar because there is no money and no troops. We simply have run out of resources.

The CIA and FBI are in a total state of dischord right now because they are having to impliment new ideas and new policies on a daily basis and relearn how to do their jobs.

And worst of all, we have massacared our relationships with most of our friends and allies in the world, and made any traveling American's targets for attacks no matter where in the world they are.

It will take a long time before the world trust America again, and it will take a lot to rebuild our friendships. Hopefully Bush will not have 4 more years to make us lose even more friends.


Dick Cheney says if you vote for Kerry you are voting for another 9/11 attack on America, I say if you vote for Bush you are voting for the destruction of our enitre country.

But haY! look at the bright side, Libya has promised to dismantle their necular capabilities and we are no longer worried about Osama (that is what Bush said anyway).

[mardigras]

Iraq is probably the biggest threat facing the world today.
It will likely be singlehandedly responsible for the re-election of the current administration.

[crockett]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Before we had a nation that was crippled, but we at least had a dictator in place who would keep things in check.

Now we have control of what less than 50% of the country and more and more insurgents coming in and disrupting things and the potential for a theocracy to develop.

I never fully supported the war, only those subjected to following orders..but if you truly think Iraq is less of a threat now you are sadly mistaken.

Not even humanitarian agencies are safe now.

Bush supporters seem to be the only ones that think Iraq is better off now.

[zentz]

i think it will always be a threat

[mardigras]

Originally posted by crockett
Bush supporters seem to be the only ones that think Iraq is better off now.

You don't think 1 or 2 car bombs a day isn't better off than a dictator who had been basically minding his p's & q's for a number of years because the world was watching him?

[Downtime]

Wow. Are you actually serious? Iraq is not more dangerous as it was before. Women can walk on the streets without getting raped. Do mass graves mean anything to you? How about torture chambers? You forget that the international media is present in Iraq; where were they when the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were murdered by the hands of Saddam?

You are ignorant; your entire Democratic party agrees that the world is a safer place without Saddam in power; yet now that the election is rolling around you seem to be flip-flopping. What a surprise.

[Dead13]

Originally posted by Downtime
Wow. Are you actually serious? Iraq is not more dangerous as it was before. Women can walk on the streets without getting raped. Do mass graves mean anything to you? How about torture chambers? You forget that the international media is present in Iraq; where were they when the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were murdered by the hands of Saddam?

You are ignorant; your entire Democratic party agrees that the world is a safer place without Saddam in power; yet now that the election is rolling around you seem to be flip-flopping. What a surprise.

Sounds like your the ignorant one. I have seen several interviews with Iraq citizens who were fairly well-off before the attacks and they all say Iraq is much worse than it was before.

Now when someone wants to rape a woman, they just do, when someone wants to kill someone they know can get away with it. I have seen doctors being interviewed that have fled to Canada saying normal law abiding people cannot live in Iraq anymore because there is no law, and MOST people are out on killing spree's. At least when Saddam was in charge people had to pay for their crimes, now their is no law.

So you tell me how the Iraq people are better off with constant exploding, bombs being dropped, bullets flying past their heads every second of the day, constant house invasions by collation troops, car bombs exploding everywhere, suicide bombers walking into crowds and pulling the trigger. And no healthcare at all to take care of these people.

And do you honestly believe Iraq business's are open and running as usual? Do you believe people are able to work to provide food and clothing and shelter for their families? Do you believe except for a few little areas it if life as usual for the people or Iraq?

If you think so then you need a serious reality check.

[Rich]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
You oversimplify things...and seem to forget our history of putting dictators in place to do specifically that job.

Ignore him, he can only remember what was on Rush this morning. Talk about anything beyond that and he'll just post smile faces and pretend he has a mind of his own.

[eroswebmaster]

Originally posted by Downtime
Wow. Are you actually serious? Iraq is not more dangerous as it was before. Women can walk on the streets without getting raped. Do mass graves mean anything to you? How about torture chambers? You forget that the international media is present in Iraq; where were they when the hundreds of thousands of Iraqis were murdered by the hands of Saddam?

Here's a clue for you buddy.

Abu Gharib

[sperbonzo]

I find it interesting that the the evidence that the Russian goverment came out with two and a half months ago that showed that Saddam Hussain was actively planning attacks against the US has gone so unreported by the world media.

A brief mention, then *poof*

Guess it didn't fit with the world view that we had nothing to worry about from Iraq.

[Dead13]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Here's a clue for you buddy.

Abu Gharib

Ya no shit!

I have a friend in the army who had a few soldiers from his unit stationed at Bagdad prisions and he said these guys are coming home more fucked up then the ones who were in serious combat.

From what he says Abu Gharib does not even scratch the surface of what is really going on there. Out of all of the soldiers who have commited suicide upon returning from Iraq the largest percent of them by far were stationed to do prision guard.

[Dead13]

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I find it interesting that the the evidence that the Russian goverment came out with two and a half months ago that showed that Saddam Hussain was actively planning attacks against the US has gone so unreported by the world media.

Because they were fucking dated since before the invasion of Kuwait!!!

And they were reported, thats how I know about them, and obviously that is how you know about them as well.

[sperbonzo]

Originally posted by Dead13
Because they were fucking dated since before the invasion of Kuwait!!!

And they were reported, thats how I know about them, and obviously that is how you know about them as well.

Perhaps we are talking about different reports. The ones I'm referring to were relating to actions in the last three years.

Nevermind. I've gotten tired of getting into policital discussions on this board. No one seems to believe in the freedom to have different views, anyone that disagrees is a "sheep", or an idiot or brainless, or evil, or shouldn't be allowed to vote.

[Rich]

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I find it interesting that the the evidence that the Russian goverment came out with two and a half months ago that showed that Saddam Hussain was actively planning attacks against the US has gone so unreported by the world media.

A brief mention, then *poof*

Guess it didn't fit with the world view that we had nothing to worry about from Iraq.

lol, do a little research and you'll understand for yourself.

[<IMX>]

yeah b/c we all know how credible the russians are

lol

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I find it interesting that the the evidence that the Russian goverment came out with two and a half months ago that showed that Saddam Hussain was actively planning attacks against the US has gone so unreported by the world media.

A brief mention, then *poof*

Guess it didn't fit with the world view that we had nothing to worry about from Iraq.

[12clicks]

Originally posted by Rich
Ignore him, he can only remember what was on Rush this morning. Talk about anything beyond that and he'll just post smile faces and pretend he has a mind of his own.

poor bitter nobody.

[AlienQ - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Iraq is just one of those stepping stones to clearing up the Isreali, Palestinian conflict.

Somthing had to be done. Everyone wanted the USA to tend to the matter after all...

Ya think Islamic Extremists understand Peace treatise or Live in Peace?
They can never get enough, nor come to any negotiations.

Its True Saddam Supported terrorists on many fronts with Arms and Money, with trail's leading to Palestine.

Now is Iraq Safer?
No, but thats what its all about. Islamic Extremism is being dealt with.

[Goose]

well not too much changed in peace direction...everything rather shifted a little, and new threats arose

[DaLord]

I'm pretty sure more are being killed in Iraq today than before.

[theking]

Originally posted by Dead13
Not only do I believe they were no threat before, but we have mass amounts of evidence to prove they were not a threat.

I do not feel Iraq itself is a bigger threat now than before, however I do feel we are much more unsecure because of our actions in Iraq.

We have provided all Al Queada or any other terror group all the recruiting tools they needed. Anyone who was on the fence before is now a terrorist and I am sure an entire generation of children who have just had their parents slaughtered and/or whitnessed the slaughtering or parents, and children are more than willing to become future participants aginst America.

Yes have created an entire generation of future terrorist, and I believe we have added to the current list far more than we killed or arrested in the past.

We have made Iraq a dangerous unlawful and unsecure trading ground for dangerous weapons that are a threat to America as terrorist can now get in and out without being detected at all.

If that was not a big enough problem we have turned a blind eye to Iran and North Korea to allow them to continue to build their necular programs and to upgrade their armies in preperation for our attacks against them. I would assume their intelligence has also been studying the hell out of our military actions so they can counter plan and attack and they know our responces to anything that ever happens now thus making future American soldiers sitting ducks and bait for traps and ambushes.

We have spread our military far to thin, we do not have enough soldiers to finish the job in Iraq, and we do not have enough to fight the war on terror, and we are not exactly signing them up by the thousands. No way in hell we could ever go to war with another country at this moment. If we are attacked by China, North Korea, or Iran we are by far way more than fucked.

We have spread our budget to thin, we are in constant danger of attacks against us at home because we do not have the money to create homeland defense. Anyone who says we are safer now is a liar because there is no money and no troops. We simply have run out of resources.

The CIA and FBI are in a total state of dischord right now because they are having to impliment new ideas and new policies on a daily basis and relearn how to do their jobs.

And worst of all, we have massacared our relationships with most of our friends and allies in the world, and made any traveling American's targets for attacks no matter where in the world they are.

It will take a long time before the world trust America again, and it will take a lot to rebuild our friendships. Hopefully Bush will not have 4 more years to make us lose even more friends.


Dick Cheney says if you vote for Kerry you are voting for another 9/11 attack on America, I say if you vote for Bush you are voting for the destruction of our enitre country.

But haY! look at the bright side, Libya has promised to dismantle their necular capabilities and we are no longer worried about Osama (that is what Bush said anyway).

Long post full of misinformed and misguided opinion.

[theking]

Originally posted by Dead13
Sounds like your the ignorant one. I have seen several interviews with Iraq citizens who were fairly well-off before the attacks and they all say Iraq is much worse than it was before.

Now when someone wants to rape a woman, they just do, when someone wants to kill someone they know can get away with it. I have seen doctors being interviewed that have fled to Canada saying normal law abiding people cannot live in Iraq anymore because there is no law, and MOST people are out on killing spree's. At least when Saddam was in charge people had to pay for their crimes, now their is no law.

So you tell me how the Iraq people are better off with constant exploding, bombs being dropped, bullets flying past their heads every second of the day, constant house invasions by collation troops, car bombs exploding everywhere, suicide bombers walking into crowds and pulling the trigger. And no healthcare at all to take care of these people.

And do you honestly believe Iraq business's are open and running as usual? Do you believe people are able to work to provide food and clothing and shelter for their families? Do you believe except for a few little areas it if life as usual for the people or Iraq?

If you think so then you need a serious reality check.

Misinformed and misguided opinions.

[theking]

Originally posted by Rich
Ignore him, he can only remember what was on Rush this morning. Talk about anything beyond that and he'll just post smile faces and pretend he has a mind of his own.

As you pretend to have a mind of your own. Better seek help for those voices in your head...Richy boy.

[VeriSexy]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
You oversimplify things...and seem to forget our history of putting dictators in place to do specifically that job.

[theking]

Originally posted by Dead13
Ya no shit!

I have a friend in the army who had a few soldiers from his unit stationed at Bagdad prisions and he said these guys are coming home more fucked up then the ones who were in serious combat.

From what he says Abu Gharib does not even scratch the surface of what is really going on there. Out of all of the soldiers who have commited suicide upon returning from Iraq the largest percent of them by far were stationed to do prision guard.

Pig shit.

[69pornlinks]

, were they ever a threat...they had that 10 year war with iran(this was when they were u.s. "friend') then right after that 1st bush invaded, then after they had snactions, so within the last 20 years they either been in wars or snactions yeah they WERE a BIG THREAT and if anyone beilive that need to get a bullet in their head before they even have a chance to conceive becasue i hate to see kids to grow up as dummies

[PenisFace]

Originally posted by theking
Misinformed and misguided opinions.

Yeah because Iraqi's who fled Iraq because its so unstable and dangerous now don't know what they're talking about, right?

[theking]

Originally posted by PenisFace
Yeah because Iraqi's who fled Iraq because its so unstable and dangerous now don't know what they're talking about, right?

Wrong.

[69pornlinks]

if iraq was such a threat why you fags are still on GFY, wouldn't it be best if you join this fight, i'm sure they can use the extra bodies.......or are you too fagish to fight for what you believe in, fucking homos all for the 'war' but scared to join the armed forces

[Mojiteaux]

Well, there was no terrorism before the US invasion.
Now the country seems to have become God's gift to islamic terrorists. They don't have to travel far anymore to blow American soldiers to pieces.

[phonephucker]

iraq was never a threat to the US bush is a gun/bomb happy dick that killed so many innocent people

[zvik]

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
they weren't a threat before...

korea and iran are much bigger threats than iraq ever was

that's true although saddam hussein wanted to enter the history book as a hero and he would do about anything, well not anymore

i think after the us will get out of iraq the country will be like Iran, more religious.

anyway it would take a long time for iraq to be a serious threat again.

[stev0]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I think you misunderstood my post..or maybe I misunderstood yours.

I never thought Iraq was a threat worldwide, but I think it at least was a contained area...now it's not even contained...Iraq is now more dangerous than it ever was. Not necessarily to us in the US, but to those having to deal with Iraq directly...and if and when we ever do pull out then it may grow to be a worldwide threat.

It could be a bigger threat worldwide once US troops are withdrawn. It never was a heaven for terrorists before, but easily could be now that Saddam is out of power.

In a way i think it may have been good that Saddam was taken out of power, simply because I would never want to see his sons in control of anything; let alone an entire country.

But now they will probably just end up having to instate another dictator sooner or later, probably one of the clerics that they've been waging war against, because they're the only ones most of the Iraqi people will listen to.

[Goatse]

Now that there's a puppet regime more or less in place, Iraq is no longer a threat to Israel, which is the reason the obedient American government invaded the country in the first place.

[sixxxthsense]

this thread is full of idiots, i dont even know where to start or who to pick apart

[Centurion]

Originally posted by Downtime
Wow. Are you actually serious? Iraq is not more dangerous as it was before. Women can walk on the streets without getting raped.

Yeah now they just get blown up before they can be raped.

[Centurion]

Originally posted by sperbonzo
I find it interesting that the the evidence that the Russian goverment came out with two and a half months ago that showed that Saddam Hussain was actively planning attacks against the US has gone so unreported by the world media.

A brief mention, then *poof*

Guess it didn't fit with the world view that we had nothing to worry about from Iraq.

yeah..the Russians are KNOWN these days for their great intelligence! That's why there haven't been any terrorist attacks there for years.

Ooops!

[Centurion]

Originally posted by theking
Misinformed and misguided opinions.

You just can't cut it anymore with anything that supports that these "opinons" are mis-informed or misguieded can you?

You just make your blah comments.

[Ironhorse]

Originally posted by eroswebmaster
Here's a clue for you buddy.

Abu Gharib

This guy needs all the clue he can get, I don't know why people like that even bother opening their mouth about shit they obviously know nothing about..