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Old 09-14-2004, 12:15 PM   #101
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How is 10,000 resonable? You should go down to an amatuer boxing ring and talk to the coaches and ask them how many knock outs they see in competition. These are guys who train multiple times a week and box all the time and they are not knocking each other out usually. 3 rounds of footwork, feeling each other out, left jabs, whiffed uppercuts and right crosses. Few flurries when they hear the woodblock then decision time.

So do you think these two are going to get into the ring and have an epic battle like Muhammad Ali and Joe Frazier? I mean I do not know these guys personally but I do not think either one of them has been training to fight in any form. Ever seen two people who are not trained strap on boxing gloves and throw akward arching punches with clumsy footwork at each other? 10,000 is not a small amount of money, I do not care how much money you have 10k on something this abstract is a lot of money.

I am not trying to play into any mancho bs or insult anyone to get them to do it but 10k is not reasonable it is a request to make it worth his time but it is not at all reasonable. He does not really want to fight (not saying he is scared or anything) just saying he does not see this worth his time is all and nothing short of being payed what IS a pretty good amount of money is going tomake it happen. If you were asked to put the money up to see this would any of you do it? If so, like the man says start up a pool and put the money in till it gets to 10k, if it does not get there then give everyone their money back, this is kinda like selling tickets in a way
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:23 PM   #102
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what? they won't make it 3 rounds and definately won't be "feeling each other out". they will flap at each other in a wild panic for about 1 min and all we can hope for is that someone will get lucky before they collapse of exhaustion.

amateur fights are always more entertaining than pro fights. good boxers are boring to watch.

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Old 09-14-2004, 12:30 PM   #103
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I called Rodriguez Boxing Club, but didn't get an answer. Evidently they host charity events all the time.


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10k U.S.D. Purse for winner.
(possible sponsor sixnine)


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Physical for tdf
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Referee (what $60/hr? for a certified ref?)

Ring (can't be that expensive, again maybe $150/hr?)
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:40 PM   #104
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what? they won't make it 3 rounds and definately won't be "feeling each other out". they will flap at each other in a wild panic for about 1 min and all we can hope for is that someone will get lucky before they collapse of exhaustion.

amateur fights are always more entertaining than pro fights. good boxers are boring to watch.

Exactly, there will be no technical boxing, if there is a ref there will be a lot of breaking them up as they collapse on each other, exhausted from throwing lots of power punches with no effect. You would be suprised how heavy those little gloves get after a few minuits. The muscles used to throw punches and hold your hands in a defensive position are not often used for anything else so it does not matter how strong you are, it is akward!

Depends on what you want to see, if you like the art of combat then amatuer or the lighter weight fighters will be your thing. If you want knock outs, which is what the masses care about, then it is heavy weight pro all the way. Lewis is thought to be one of the most boring heavy weight boxers because he is a technical boxer same with hollyfield.

So once again, who is going to pay 10k+ for this?
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:48 PM   #105
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This has just taken a total turn

I say we just let this thread die, and save further aggravation. No one is going to fight, and its very obvious. I don't understand the need for all sorts of crazy requests and shit talking.
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Old 09-14-2004, 12:49 PM   #106
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in alaska, there have these amateur fights in bars that are very cool. they just ask them what experience they have... everyone says "huh... i have no experience" and then a bunch of semi-pro fighters proceed to beat the shit out of drunk idiots. I saw the same in Orlando. very entertaining.

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Old 09-14-2004, 12:53 PM   #107
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It is...amateur fights are the best.
Nothing like seeing ppl get fucked up and jaws broken.

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in alaska, there have these amateur fights in bars that are very cool. they just ask them what experience they have... everyone says "huh... i have no experience" and then a bunch of semi-pro fighters proceed to beat the shit out of drunk idiots. I saw the same in Orlando. very entertaining.

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Old 09-14-2004, 01:08 PM   #108
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Old 09-14-2004, 01:34 PM   #109
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:10 PM   #110
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TDF is ready, I'll be in his corner.. He needs a crazy ass cracker to yell and scream...

TDF you got this!! Represent yo shit!!!!
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:16 PM   #111
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I'm still here...
If Sixnine puts up the $10,000 to the winner..
we get a ref and some unbiased judges....

I'll pass on my previous demand of TDF needing a physical..
just want some legal writing that clears me of lawsuit/liability of possible medical injuries

Also someone needs to pay for my airfare...
Toodamnfli said he would..
but don't know if thats still a green light...

I'm good to go on this...

BTW..
when is the phoenix convention?
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:36 PM   #112
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I've met platinum at a couple of shows that dude is pretty big...i wouldnt mess with him
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:37 PM   #113
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Update...

10k U.S.D. Purse for winner.
(possible sponsor sixnine of http://www.soulcash.com)


Flight/Hotel
(tdf covered by pleaurepays of pleasure labs)
(PL covered (possibly ) by tdf)

Referee (what $60/hr? for a certified ref?)

Ring (can't be that expensive, again maybe $150/hr?)
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Old 09-14-2004, 02:48 PM   #114
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I'm still here...
If Sixnine puts up the $10,000 to the winner..
we get a ref and some unbiased judges....

I'll pass on my previous demand of TDF needing a physical..
just want some legal writing that clears me of lawsuit/liability of possible medical injuries

Also someone needs to pay for my airfare...
Toodamnfli said he would..
but don't know if thats still a green light...

I'm good to go on this...

BTW..
when is the phoenix convention?
everyone has to clear a physical, that will be a requirement for every potential fighter, the venue will kick ass, and be at a resort, not some boxing training gym ( want to train strart now)

The prize purse will be announced in about 30 days, and the 10K can be bet on, ( as will all the fights be able to be bet on through an online casino I have a deal with) so if you want to bet any cash on this either way it will be possible.

look for more details to ome over the next few weeks.
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Old 09-14-2004, 03:21 PM   #115
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WTF?

I've known you both forever. PL since
he was 18 minus a few hustlin' ARS to death. TDF is part of my family as far as I'm concerned.

How about you both zip it up before I put the money up and call both your hoe cards?

Discuss...

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Old 09-14-2004, 04:38 PM   #116
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It sounds to me like PL is trying to sell some wolf tickets...

This shit should just get handled.. Just step into the ring and go apeshit.. When we were all kids if we wanted to fight we would fight.. If we got kicked out of school we didnt give a shit, cuz that was how it went down..
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Old 09-14-2004, 04:46 PM   #117
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I've met platinum at a couple of shows that dude is pretty big...i wouldnt mess with him
i've met tdf at a couple shows and he was probably the biggest guy there. that doesnt mean anything though, if you're big and dont know how to fight it doesnt help you that much. has anyone seen either pl or tdf fight?
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Old 09-14-2004, 06:58 PM   #118
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