Asking out of curiousity...

Do any of you guys visit:

http://www.mma.tv

BJJ is all you need.

All the other stuff is just fluff and good selling points.


You can practice BJJ live without getting hurt.

Good Fucking Point!!!

Ok guys flame on this if you want but:


Most true eastern schools of martial arts are strictly against exhibitions of power. You can go on all day about how they are afraid to get in the ring and mix it up and they are hiding. But look at some of your own philosophies... do you show everything you have off, then why should they? Do you think it is a good idea to put on tape your fighting system so that others can learn how to defeat it? The reason TKD and Karate are so stagnant and their fighters easy to defeat is that you have been watching their techniques your whole life. You know what their kicks look like, their punches, their rolls, their moves, VERY little of it is unknown to you in its essence and so you can fight against it. Go back when the system was secret and new and it was very differant Karate = win on the streets.

Street and Octagon are WAY differant. In the octogon you are both wearing simular clothing, you have a non porous fighting surface and no weaponry, you are also in a climate controled area. What would Hoyce Gracie do if someone threw a garbage can at him and ran in after it to tackle him? How is his roll out effected by hitting a hard non mat surface? BJJ is not any more an ultimate fighting system for everyone than Jun Fan Jeet Kun Do, just because the originator was hardly defeated does not mean it will hand down to you. I know Capoeira Maestros who have hardly been defeated but I think the system relies way to much on being in perfect physical condition, their holes are filled with BJJ but so what. What happens in JuiJitsu when you fall wrong and break your arm.....oh oh no more arm bars or chokes now are there? What do you have to fall back on? At least if the Karate guy breaks and arm he can still kick.

Basing the validity of any system on exhibitions is foolhardy. Sure it shows you some basics but I would not study under any "master" who has multiple high ranks in multiple forms or fighting that is not over 40. Plain and simple how did a 30 year old get enough time to multi master a single let alone MULTIPLE forms. Looking over the info of this guy he had to have started training at 10 to get 20 years of experience. But split all his training up and you get basically about 4-5 years training in each and overlapping is terrible. Karate and the other forms are very differant. BJJ says basically that karate principal does not work throw it out, Karate says Mui Tai is good but is not balanced, Mui Tai says that all others lack the use of all 5 points of the body, Krav Mega (which seems to be his newest mastership) says throw it ALL away it is not direct enough. To me this man is a jack off all trades, a knowledge of many but a master of none..... oh yeah he IS a master, of all of them it seems WOW.

And i know it is rare on the boards but some of us actually care about people. I for one do not know who you are but I would hate for you to spend money with someone who is going to teach you things that might get you hurt. This is another thing in eastern martial arts.... brotherhood of warriors.

Of course.

I'm a blue namer. :)

WOW, some people need to lighten up here :2 cents:

eroswebmaster is just happy to start a new program which teaches self defense and is aimed at putting him back in shape and all of you jump on his case about all this martial art shit and what's best :(

Fact is, 99% of people do not have a clue as to how to defend themselves. So, WHATEVER form of fighting that you know will instantly put you at the head of the pack.

I practise Krav Maga, I'm very happy with it as I lost weight and can kick just about anybody's ass and I can fuck like I was 20 again :banana .

I am not looking to rip anybody's throat or eyes out and I am not looking to go into a pissing match with my buddy who practises capoera. What I like about Krav Maga is that there is no rules and that they teach you how to handle yourselves in just about any situations. On a side note, the dude who teaches me Krav Maga also practises Kempo and Tae Kwon Do, so it makes for quite interesting training sessions :2 cents:

What I don't get is why everyone is so against Eros training in whatever fighting style he wants. It's for exercise, and to learn a little about defending himself. He isn't going out and looking for fights, not going into battle of war or an octagon. It's all for fun.

If I wanted to fight other people I would take BJJ. If I wanted a good work out and to learn a few things along the way, I wouldn't take BJJ, I would chose from the other 200 better work out forms.

BJJ isn't easy on the body, even more so for people really out of shape. If you have problems with bones, muscles, over weight, etc. BJJ will only cause more problems.

Go with whatever makes you feel good, you don't have to train to kill someone. After all, any fighting style can be beat with the simple pull of a trigger.

Well said.

Funny how most discussions on religeon, politics or martial arts almost always degenerate into dick waving "mine is better than yours" crap

LOL no kidding...I don't get it either..and just because I don't follow the prescribed methods of a few others here I get bashed...some interesting thought processes going on here.

Thanks man...you've seen my body and know exactly how out of shape it is...LOL

I am doing this as a way to get back into some sort of physical conditioning as well as learn something interesting.

I can guarantee you if I joined up something like YMCA which is clear across town I would probably talk myself out of going to it at some point..so I figured something like this would keep me interested.

I thought so...I've told Kirik that I thought there were gfy people posting there....:)

that's cool. hope you enjoy it.

MMAGOLD is yours?

I guess I don't have to hammer it in that the armbar from guard is wrong then?

LOL

enjoy man!!

The guy who started it is a real bad ass, but some of the terminate moves seem like they wouldnt really work to me. You will see what I mean once you are involved in the classes for a little while. Overall its very good training, how often are you going to need to kill someone anyway? I hope not often:1orglaugh

Yeah the Gracies are some bad asses, their family had a very long undefeated streak until Sakuraba put it on them. They are the best submission fighters out there.

If you want to be trained the best for fight only situations then you should look for some place that trains mma fighters. If you are really interested in learning about how to disarm someone then I guess Hagganah is as good a place as any.

Nope....no hammer needed....:)

So, I guess the reasoning that his arm is broken didn't fly, huh? LOL

Not my site...but I was involved....heavily...