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Old 09-13-2004, 03:55 AM   #1
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Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

As stated.. whats up with this ?
Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?

James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?

Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?

I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:01 AM   #2
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:03 AM   #3
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:12 AM   #4
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don't forget your tinfoil hat.
Obviously, you don't understand what a question is. It ends with one of these --> ?

Now that we have established that, do you have any information at all about anything I just posted ? It's very simple and I used short questions and sentences on purpose for your small mind to understand better. Which of the statements or questions, is incorrect ? Do you know or do you just spew rehearsed bullshit ?
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:23 AM   #5
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I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

Moore's an idiot.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:24 AM   #6
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As stated.. whats up with this ?
Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis
A: You're a porn webmaster, poking your nose around in these places isn't in your best interest.

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Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?
A: Yes.

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James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?
A: Who was it that doesn't understand what a question is again?

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Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?
A: Is there a question here?

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I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
A: You're the target audience for F911. Enjoy.
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Old 09-13-2004, 04:28 AM   #7
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Thanks TTH for confirming that my questions could all be answered with a "Yes." I wasn't sure on all points before.

Vote Bush!

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Old 09-13-2004, 05:20 AM   #8
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:43 AM   #9
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I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

Moore's an idiot.
Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:47 AM   #10
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Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.
I know
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:48 AM   #11
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Where you like Moore or not isn't the point of the film, he presents the facts, it's up to you to disregard his biases and interpret them for yourself.
the film is almost all bias and so are his other projects.
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Old 09-13-2004, 05:52 AM   #12
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I watched F9/11 and I hated it.

Moore's an idiot.
so do you support Bush?
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Old 09-13-2004, 06:42 AM   #13
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Every time a Bradley Fighting Vehicle is destroyed the Bush family and the Saudi royal family profits. They want Americans to be attacked and killed.
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:37 AM   #14
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All your questions are answered in "Dude, Where's my Country" by -- yes -- Michael Moore.
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:49 AM   #15
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This is classic.

Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).

Q: Where was Bush in 1972?

A: Typewriters don't exist! I challenge you to a duel!

Simply classic!
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Old 09-13-2004, 07:51 AM   #16
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:16 PM   #17
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:20 PM   #18
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Q: Where was Bush in 1972?
The correct answer is:

A: Who gives a fuck?

and the same answer applies to John Kerrys military service.

Nobody in the real world gives a fuck about either.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:24 PM   #19
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This is classic.

Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).

Its the Ad Hominem responose..attack the person, not his actual arguements. The best is when it comes to Michael Moore:
"Whatever, that guys a fat bastard"
Like...so what if he's fat?! Does that really change what he has to say?
"Whatever. He's fat"
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:26 PM   #20
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Its the Ad Hominem responose..attack the person, not his actual arguements. The best is when it comes to Michael Moore:
"Whatever, that guys a fat bastard"
Like...so what if he's fat?! Does that really change what he has to say?
"Whatever. He's fat"
Someone who has studied logic or philosophy





sometimes the Ad hominem is a valid argument..but most times not
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Ignore and misdirect actual questions of concern over actual things that actual people are involved with, and deride a film maker or message bearer (moore, CBS, etc).
by the way, have you EVER seen a Democrat being interviewed?

I've YET to see one answer the question they were asked.

q: what do you think of john kerry flip flopping on the war issue?
a: george bush is the devil.

q: what do you think of john kerrys voting record?
a: george bush stole my sisters scooter.

q: what's your name?
a: george bush is a space lizard and the face you see is only a mask.


and so on.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:31 PM   #22
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hehe, musta hit pretty close to the mark.
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:35 PM   #23
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I have read several well researched articles in Fortune, Forbes and Business Week magazine over the last 3 or 4 years on the Carlyle Group and the type of influence peddling they do and investments they make. Just try to access the archives online of those magazines and you will have tons of info.
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sometimes the Ad hominem is a valid argument..but most times not
Indeed, if the ad hominem arguement called into question things that actually related to the validity of the arguement at hand...
but as wel all know this isn't the case here
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Old 09-13-2004, 12:58 PM   #25
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go checkout the carlyle group online . it will tell you a bit about them


btw they recently bought cineplex odeon theatres
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As stated.. whats up with this ?
Need info on WTC, James Baker, Carlyle Group and Saudis

Did James Baker defend the Saudi's against the families of those who died in WTC on 9/11 ?

James Baker, former secretary of state ? Close personal friend of the Bush family ? Business partner in Carlyle Group with the Bush family, and the Saudi's ? Envoy in charge of restructuring the debt in Iraq now ?

Robert Jordon also of Baker's firm ? Also US Ambassador to Saudi Arabia ?

I haven't seen F 911 yet, but I hear some of this is covered in that. Looking forward to seeing it when it's out on DVD on Oct 5th.
Links for your research:

http://www.usatoday.com/money/media/...lex-sold_x.htm

http://www.wirelessweek.com/article/...ess+In ternet

http://www.rotten.com/library/conspiracy/carlyle-group/

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/s...7/daily76.html
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go checkout the carlyle group online . it will tell you a bit about them


btw they recently bought cineplex odeon theatres
yes, and Verizon Hawaii:

http://www.bizjournals.com/pacific/...17/daily76.html
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by the way, have you EVER seen a Democrat being interviewed?

I've YET to see one answer the question they were asked.

q: what do you think of john kerry flip flopping on the war issue?
a: george bush is the devil.

q: what do you think of john kerrys voting record?
a: george bush stole my sisters scooter.

q: what's your name?
a: george bush is a space lizard and the face you see is only a mask.


and so on.
you're so fucking retarded
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