Heather contacted me, if I remember correctly. At that point, I was not doing any sites other than my own. Her site was in a mess, especially the members area and she didn't have a ccbill account to be able to offer Visa. So I took it on with my plans being to start doing sites for other models and having her site as a reference.

In that sense, it served me well. I have some really awesome models in my network that are very active on their sites, and I would have never gotten them without having a site out there that I was maintaining.

My business plan changed greatly from what I offered to Heather , and is working well for me. Heather was the 1st.....we live & learn :winkwink:

Ivy

ok so call me an asshole...
but if your not smart enough to run a buisness yourself then you set yourself up to get fucked over. I know Ivy a little from running one of my other websites and I know she isn't one who tries to fuck people over.

Ivy the drama queen. It really amazes me how you are the one who decided to make this public, yet you tell Jean that I am the one who started posting on message boards about this.

Did you explain to the rest of your gruopies how you illegally took over my domain name, changed everything to your info and moved it to directnic.com?

As far as the $300 a month, it was me speaking of August's signups. August brought in a lousey $300 and of that I got one check..for a crappy $23. Yes I do realize there are ccbill fee's as well as affiliate fees, on top of the 50%, however it wouldnt drop me to $23...for the whole month. My check showed under $4 in partner payouts. When I questioned you about this Ivy, you locked me out of ccbill and said you were locking me out of my website. YOU terminated our contract.

For the record..yes I did get the implants, HOWEVER I also got a breast lift too. Something that was conveniently left out. The lift alone is a serious surgery. I had 120 stitches from that, on top of the bruising, soreness and getting sick the day after surgery. Still I sent Ivy content before AND after I had the surgery, that had already been shot. It's not my fault that she chose to put all of it up at one time instead of spreading it out over a few weeks.

After that no, I didnt update. Im still bruised, a tad sore, and now had another complication. Even if that wasn't the case I wouldn't have sent her content. Why contribute to a site I no longer own, am locked out of and get no money from?

Ivy, your 2257 isnt compliant. You have stolen content all over that website, no model releases, and no real custodian. I tried calling you to settle this but you didnt wanna take my call, so I am buring all the records. Good luck running that site without proper documentation.

FYI...my signups didnt stop, from me missing a few updates, they stopped from you not promoting me per our contract. Ivy dropped me off google, had me ranked over 500,000 and changed links from my site, to point to hers.

Regardless Ivy, you can try however you want to keep that up until January, but it aint gonna happen. Like Andy said in his email to you, we have the recipt of purchase for the domain name/renewal, and a screen cap showing where you changed all the info to your name. It's been faxed in to the legal department of directnic and will be retreived.

So when I get my domain name back, the site will be gone.

Heather, what are you going to do about the people who sent you $$ are you going to make thing's right with them?

The only one I owe is Donovan Phillips and yes...I will take care of that. I have his address and will be fixing that situation.

Ivy you should edit that stats screen capture to remove the account number. Some nosy people (like myself) can easily look through your portfolio clicking on join pages to see which account that stats page is for.

Nice of you to point that out....but maybe in a "private" message would have been better! :winkwink:

Not without the subaccount. She's got it blocked. Without it, you can't tell. :winkwink:

Yes, let's see the new hamptons :glugglug

I posted the checks that ccbill says were mailed to you in August ( 3 checks ) as well as the stats. So your $23 claim is as bogus as everything else you state.

But here we go, one more time. You recieved $117.02, NOT $23.00 as you stated LMAO Learn how to add and you won't make yourself look like such a fool.

Ivy

http://www.privateivy.com/pix/Forums...eckAmounts.jpg

Okay, it's big drama timez !

Shut up or I'll pop a wheelie on your tricycle, and laugh as you try to look cool as you rattle off the edge of the porch and impale your head in the giant pile of shit I just beat out of you.

I have a copy of your signed contract with all relevant information relating to useage of the content on that site. Your photographer even told you this, as I spoke to her as well.

I would love to pull the site offline right now, but there are members rebilling and I will not do that to them.

My contract and all facts are backed up on paper. If you are so clueless about that, go ahead and hire an attorney. I look forward to it. It will be nice for me to collect the $1500 early termination fee as mentioned in the contract.

Ivy

If you want the site that badly Ivy, keep it, but list yourself as the custodian. You were listed as the custodian of records until we parted ways. What all of a sudden made you list ME as the custodian?

One solution to prevent this kind of shit from happening is for the model to take a few weeks and shoot literally a TON of content, using different hairstyles each few days, taking tons of digital stills to go with each vid, mix up the locations and any clothing and props etc.... and you should have updates for a site for an entire year, maybe more.

I'm telling you, with myself working the cameras and one model, In 2 weeks I could have one hell of a shitload of content shot for a site like this. It solves the problem some people have of keeping to a weekly update schedule, I know that many really squirm under such a repetitive ongoing obligation like that after a while. Some have the ability and the dedication to put in the daily/weekly work, but others do not.

Shooting content in bulk solves a lot of other problems besides the meeting deadlines thing. For example, if the model does put on weight and starts looking less than her usual level of shall we say... "Marketablility".... you have a ton of content to keep the site going with, adding small amounts every week or every few weeks so the members are happy. The members don't have to know that the model is going through some things or "having issues."


With a little work and care and dedication a site like that could be making $1500 a week rather than $1900 in what, 9 months? Jeezus we're talking peanuts here. Think what a bitter mess this thread would be if we were talking serious money here.

Exactly, CD !!! I spend 2 or 3 days once every 3 monthes or so and shoot non-stop. I'm sitting on a good 6 monthes or more of my own content. If I ever fall below having 6 monthes worth of my own content, I know it's time to do some major shooting.

I do the same thing with Kasey ( one of my other sites, KaseyKline.com ) I shoot all of her content myself, so I go and shoot her or she comes here once every 3 monthes. I shoot enough pics and videos to keep me with updates ready for several monthes.

4 of the other sites in my network do the same thing, so I never have to badger them for their updates, I have them filed and pull out new stuff each week.

I can't imagine doing it any other way. It's working smarter, not harder. And leaves me with time to run my business and still have a life away from the internet.

:2 cents:

Ivy

You have a life away from the internet? Where do I sign up? :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Damn - almost wish I'd got sig. placement in this thread. Loads of drama on GFY but this is actually genuine.

Time for more popcorn.

Whats up with the fact that Heather says she only owes Donovan Phillips cash, though others claimed there are several people that are owed cash? :glugglug

haha :winkwink: yea, imagine that ! In my other life I'm really a homely housewife with 3 kids :-

LOL

Ivy

I already answered that question. I have everything I need to have me covered , in the contract. If you destroy those records that you are contracted to provide until January, you on the other hand may be in trouble.

And it's not that I "want the site" , but I have an obligation the the members to keep it online. Of course today actually was a kick ass day for signups..... so who knows , maybe the site will pick up for the few monthes before I pull it. Well........... you have another site up now......but wait, I forgot that you won't be processing with VISA on your site, so not much of a threat there LMAO

Ivy

lol, I hear ya, sweetie, lol. I'm in charge of four kids, a dog, two cats, a snake, and of course my husband, lol.
It's like leading a double life.....
I step into my deep dark secret labratory........ooops, I mean office :1orglaugh :1orglaugh and into a whole different world than diapers and Dora the Explorer.

OMG !!! I think I'm clinical with 3, but 4 would definately be call for institutionalizing :1orglaugh

Thank goodness no more diapers.....they are ages 13, 9 and 4 so it's more like Cheerleading, football and basically being a taxi driver with a guarantee that there are always at least 2 extra kids hanging around my house . It's never quiet around my house :winkwink:

Ivy

yay, this thread got some nice drama going

from what it sounds like, heather didn't know one thing about anything, and is now mad cause she thought she would make millions of dollars....haha, we all learned that ain't true real quick

I missed most of this whole blowup and drama from before, but I'm wondering one thing.....

Why does Ivy have to be involved or negatively affected by Heather or Heather's site at all? I mean, it's HEATHER'S SITE, right? Why doesn't Heather just run her site, have it hosted somewhere on her own dime, promote it herself, feed it, grow it, and produce the content for it that it needs? Why would Ivy have to be brought into the picture at all? And for that matter.... why should Ivy or anyone else have to be telling Heather to provide updates for Heather's own site??

Man I must have missed a chapter of "running a paysite for dummies" or something, I always thoiught a solo girl site is run by the girl herself. No one needs to be telling or reminding me to update my own sites.

Whatever, not really my business but..... *shrug*

yep, that's about the jist of it :winkwink:

Ivy

That's all fine and well and good, but you do realize taht if she got processing for you, the domain would HAVE to be her in name, or Visa would have told her (and by proxy, you) to fuck herself? Have a nice day... Btw, how much of that boob job was paid for by your lovely thread all that time ago? I'm just curious :)

How many models know how to do that?

*crickets chirping*

Yeh, thought so...

Well obviously I do...and many, many others around here, but not all do .

Ivy

:bowdown


:drinkup


Ivy

You aren't a model. You're a webmistress. You just happen to model as well.

We had extended houseguests for a year; they just moved out in July. It was a family of four...a messy family of four. I was so stressed out I told my husband I was ready to fake a mental breakdown so I could get a break, lol. He says, "No way, You can't leave me with all these kids!" and I told him that he knows my family would help him if I was in a mental institution, lmao. So he says, ok, but I'm next!
LMFAO

:angel

Thanks :-


Ivy

I can think of dozens, around here.

Yea, there are lots of beautiful and intelligent women on this board ! And many more that don't frequent here that run their own sites :winkwink:

A partnership can work really well if it is just that and both people are equally invested and working towards the good of the site. Some models prefer not to bother with all the technical stuff and just have fun with their members and shooting, which is good too. ( That's the other half of my income, so of course I think that's a good idea ...hehe...)

Ivy

Heather is a scamming crack whore.
Everyone that gave her money is a sucker.
Ivy needs to be a better judge of character.

That should sum it all up.




p.s. any single girl sites that can't make more then $500 a month hit me up I got some ideas:winkwink:

Heather: since these are pictures of you provided by you --how is it "stolen" ? it's your site --sounds like it's your job to provide content for it, not Ivy's.

looks like #15 to me. unless your going for some other search term than "heather hamptons" ...

Ivy: you oughtta burn her site to a CD or two, fedex `em to her and yank the site. sounds like she knows how to run her site better than you do. sure doesn't sound like it's worth hassle your getting over it ...

Good lord. SEVERAL on-going lawsuits? No driver's license? Wash your hands of this one quick.

Heather u fucking stupid whore, shouldn't have given up your asshole on cam :Graucho Don't u know internet whores get played and webmasters get paid? :thumbsup

Hey Kcat ! LMAO ... I have:winkwink:

Ivy

Hey Ivy, did you get the message from the Richard's Realm reviewer guy? They are wanting to review your site but can't get in touch with you.

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh

man this whole thing sounds so fucking familiar!

Funny she makes it seem SO rough to be at home with two kids... I'm at home with three, and I run two home business, and I still manage to be able to keep my 4500 square foot house clean WITHOUT a maid... FUCKING IMAGINE THAT! :P

I sure did, thanks sweetie! :angel

Ivy

Imagine it... I LIVE IT !!! She was preaching to the fucking choir on that one LMAO 3 kids here too and all yousaid but we're in a 2800 sq ft house :-

Ivy

Welcome, hun.

I hear ya both...I've got four kids, (two school-aged boys and two toddlers, 1 & 3) in a 1600 sqft house, lmao! Yes, it's less space to clean, but imagine how messy it can get in no time whatsoever!:1orglaugh :1orglaugh