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  • Killah
    Confirmed User
    • Feb 2001
    • 161
    #1

    Question for SE Gurus

    I have a technical question about the google spiders and the pagerank. Let's say you have a domain and 1000 subdomains for it. under each subdomain you will find real websites, all with different content and text, linked to internal and external pages. All subdomains and pages are on one IP. On each of the html pages under the subdomains you place a link to www.mysite.com at the bottom of the page and a link to a next randomly selected subdomain-page, so the spiders can run through the whole network.
    Would the page rank of www.mysite.com raise, since it's linked from thousands of html pages under these subdomains ?
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    • railz
      Confirmed User
      • Nov 2001
      • 2531
      #2
      Under one IP? Dream on.
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        • netproperty
          Confirmed User
          • Sep 2004
          • 163
          #3
          Originally posted by railz
          Under one IP? Dream on.
          yeah thats kinda important

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            • soukee
              Confirmed User
              • Feb 2004
              • 1108
              #4
              ... so how can I increase my PR?:-)
              I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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                • Killah
                  Confirmed User
                  • Feb 2001
                  • 161
                  #5
                  Okay, so the IP is the key to this all ? I can change a lot of stuff on the system if needed, but the IP would be pretty impossible.

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                    • fr8
                      Confirmed User
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 5074
                      #6
                      Get a host that offers different class C blocks that you can buy.
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                        • WiredGuy
                          Pounding Googlebot
                          • Aug 2002
                          • 34513
                          #7
                          Originally posted by Killah
                          Would the page rank of www.mysite.com raise, since it's linked from thousands of html pages under these subdomains ?
                          The network is useless unless its populated by outside links. You could create a network of 10,000+ pages but if you don't have a single relevant or high PR link coming to you, you're network is as good as dead. The PR system is not based on volume but quality as well.

                          WG
                          I play with Google.

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                            • Theo
                              HAL 9000
                              • May 2001
                              • 34515
                              #8
                              exactly what wiredguy said.

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                                • marttali
                                  Confirmed User
                                  • May 2003
                                  • 265
                                  #9
                                  Why do you worry about PR ? It means shit, actually its the visitors that you want or am i wrong ? Dont put them on the same ip, you most likely get penalized ! If you plan to put them on same ip, you gotta implement a way different linking structure, use your brain.

                                  And about PR - yeasterday i saw a pornsite with PR 10 - yes thats correct. It used the latest bug in algo and voila there it is - pr10 .But no traffic (or very low). So dont hunt PR, instead traffic and links !

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                                    • netproperty
                                      Confirmed User
                                      • Sep 2004
                                      • 163
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by soukee
                                      ... so how can I increase my PR?:-)
                                      the secret is at setiathome.

                                      www.NetProperty.biz
                                      Paypal Friendly

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                                        • WiredGuy
                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 34513
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by marttali
                                          And about PR - yeasterday i saw a pornsite with PR 10 - yes thats correct. It used the latest bug in algo and voila there it is - pr10 .But no traffic (or very low). So dont hunt PR, instead traffic and links !
                                          Is it actually a PR10 or is it being spoofed via redirects to a true PR10 domain? Mind sharing what domain it was?

                                          WG
                                          I play with Google.

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                                            • soukee
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Feb 2004
                                              • 1108
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by marttali
                                              Why do you worry about PR ? It means shit, actually its the visitors that you want or am i wrong ?
                                              But without PR you don't have top positions, am I wrong?

                                              Originally posted by marttali
                                              And about PR - yeasterday i saw a pornsite with PR 10 - yes thats correct. It used the latest bug in algo and voila there it is - pr10 .But no traffic (or very low). So dont hunt PR, instead traffic and links !
                                              I have seen it too...
                                              I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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                                                • marttali
                                                  Confirmed User
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 265
                                                  #13
                                                  spoofed, no i wount share it,we dont need the replicators.

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                                                    • WiredGuy
                                                      Pounding Googlebot
                                                      • Aug 2002
                                                      • 34513
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by soukee
                                                      But without PR you don't have top positions, am I wrong?
                                                      I have quite a few top rankings with PR0. marttali is right, PR is overrated these days. Especially with Google not doing an update in nearly 80 days now.

                                                      WG
                                                      I play with Google.

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                                                        • Killah
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Feb 2001
                                                          • 161
                                                          #15
                                                          Okay to hit the nail on the head: How could or would you use a freehost with the structure username.freehostdomain.com/userpages.html to increase SE traffic to a dating website ? We have mullions of hits on our network and I was wondering how they could be used for SE optimization. I'd flip some coins for the one that helps us with this, since we have no SE-Guys in our team.

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                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                              • 34513
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by marttali
                                                              spoofed, no i wount share it,we dont need the replicators.
                                                              No problem, I know the exploit you're talking about.
                                                              WG
                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                • soukee
                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                  • Feb 2004
                                                                  • 1108
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                  Is it actually a PR10 or is it being spoofed via redirects to a true PR10 domain? Mind sharing what domain it was?

                                                                  WG
                                                                  http://www.momsinsex.com/
                                                                  I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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                                                                    • netproperty
                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                      • Sep 2004
                                                                      • 163
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                      I have quite a few top rankings with PR0. marttali is right, PR is overrated these days. Especially with Google not doing an update in nearly 80 days now.

                                                                      WG
                                                                      I was wondering about that. I thought I missed one

                                                                      I have a site that should go from 0 to 5 on the next update

                                                                      www.NetProperty.biz
                                                                      Paypal Friendly

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                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                          • 34513
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by Killah
                                                                          Okay to hit the nail on the head: How could or would you use a freehost with the structure username.freehostdomain.com/userpages.html to increase SE traffic to a dating website ? We have mullions of hits on our network and I was wondering how they could be used for SE optimization. I'd flip some coins for the one that helps us with this, since we have no SE-Guys in our team.

                                                                          The hits is irrelevant, its the links and how you setup your pages/content that's important from a SE's perspective.

                                                                          WG
                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                            • marttali
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 265
                                                                              #20
                                                                              Pr ensures u only frequent crawling and easier to exchange links.
                                                                              Although it has its place in algo, its importance is like 2 - 10 % (maybe 0.5 % ) of the overall ranking criterea.

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                                                                                • WiredGuy
                                                                                  Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                  • Aug 2002
                                                                                  • 34513
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by soukee
                                                                                  http://www.momsinsex.com/
                                                                                  Yeah, that's what I thought, seen quite a few people doing this spoof now. All the backlinks are those of Google.com, not the target domain: http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...insex%2Ecom%2F

                                                                                  WG
                                                                                  I play with Google.

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                                                                                    • Killah
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                      • 161
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      WiredGuy, drop me a line on icq please (436541)

                                                                                      Jan

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                                                                                        • WiredGuy
                                                                                          Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                          • Aug 2002
                                                                                          • 34513
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Originally posted by Killah
                                                                                          WiredGuy, drop me a line on icq please (436541)

                                                                                          Jan
                                                                                          I'm not a free consultant
                                                                                          WG
                                                                                          I play with Google.

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                                                                                            • marttali
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                                              • 265
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              wonder how much he's making on ebay though, selling links to noobs who want PR ?

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                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  Originally posted by marttali
                                                                                                  Pr ensures u only frequent crawling and easier to exchange links.
                                                                                                  Although it has its place in algo, its importance is like 2 - 10 % (maybe 0.5 % ) of the overall ranking criterea.
                                                                                                  you are very wrong on these numbers.

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                                                                                                    • Killah
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Feb 2001
                                                                                                      • 161
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                      I'm not a free consultant
                                                                                                      WG
                                                                                                      It shall be rewarded...

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                                                                                                        • marttali
                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                          • May 2003
                                                                                                          • 265
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                          you are very wrong on these numbers.
                                                                                                          U work for google ?
                                                                                                          The point was it's just a small piece in overall ranking

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                                                                                                            • WiredGuy
                                                                                                              Pounding Googlebot
                                                                                                              • Aug 2002
                                                                                                              • 34513
                                                                                                              #28
                                                                                                              Originally posted by Killah
                                                                                                              It shall be rewarded...
                                                                                                              Tomorrow, I'm about to goto bed.
                                                                                                              WG
                                                                                                              I play with Google.

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                                                                                                                • Theo
                                                                                                                  HAL 9000
                                                                                                                  • May 2001
                                                                                                                  • 34515
                                                                                                                  #29
                                                                                                                  Originally posted by marttali
                                                                                                                  U work for google ?
                                                                                                                  The point was it's just a small piece in overall ranking
                                                                                                                  I don't. Think of a middle traffic search term and search for it on google. Have a look on the first page results. Rarely you'll see pages with low PR, but very often you'll see pages with low keyword relevance, domains not matching the search terms etc. PR is by far the most important thing now.

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                                                                                                                    • marttali
                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                      • 265
                                                                                                                      #30
                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
                                                                                                                      I don't. Think of a middle traffic search term and search for it on google. Have a look on the first page results. Rarely you'll see pages with low PR, but very often you'll see pages with low keyword relevance, domains not matching the search terms etc. PR is by far the most important thing now.
                                                                                                                      Hey there's no point in arguing in this matter, especially none of us works for the google therefore we dont know it. It's pure speculation. I m still saying links are much more important than pr.
                                                                                                                      (both of them - inbound and out)

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                                                                                                                        • netproperty
                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                          • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                          • 163
                                                                                                                          #31
                                                                                                                          Originally posted by marttali
                                                                                                                          Hey there's no point in arguing in this matter, especially none of us works for the google therefore we dont know it. It's pure speculation. I m still saying links are much more important than pr.
                                                                                                                          (both of them - inbound and out)
                                                                                                                          Ive got pr5 sites with no traffic at all. I agree with you, pr isnt everything.

                                                                                                                          www.NetProperty.biz
                                                                                                                          Paypal Friendly

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                                                                                                                            • Trax
                                                                                                                              [----------------------]
                                                                                                                              • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                              • 14486
                                                                                                                              #32
                                                                                                                              marttali: stop talking as if you have any idea what you're saying.
                                                                                                                              The PR10 example is the best proof for that lol

                                                                                                                              You are obviously a 100% clueless newbie.

                                                                                                                              Stop giving people wrong insights into something you don't understand yourself
                                                                                                                              Last edited by Trax; 09-12-2004, 02:36 AM.

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                                                                                                                                • {fusion}
                                                                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                  • Sep 2003
                                                                                                                                  • 1650
                                                                                                                                  #33
                                                                                                                                  you need relevant anchor text links coming from your network, like wired guy and S/R point out, its just about linking structure and how you use them with your anchors.

                                                                                                                                  its very simple rules and formulas, the only thing you need to worry about is people reporting you, copying your pages and just causing trouble.

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                                                                                                                                    • marttali
                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                      • 265
                                                                                                                                      #34
                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                                      marttali: stop talking as if you have any idea what you're saying.
                                                                                                                                      The PR10 example is the best proof for that lol

                                                                                                                                      You are obviously a 100% clueless newbie.

                                                                                                                                      Stop giving people wrong insights into something you don't understand yourself
                                                                                                                                      And who are u, sir ?
                                                                                                                                      I leave you with your opinion.

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                                                                                                                                        • chupachups
                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2002
                                                                                                                                          • 6576
                                                                                                                                          #35
                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by marttali
                                                                                                                                          Pr ensures u only frequent crawling and easier to exchange links.
                                                                                                                                          Although it has its place in algo, its importance is like 2 - 10 % (maybe 0.5 % ) of the overall ranking criterea.
                                                                                                                                          Oh, how I wish that was true....

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                                                                                                                                            • SEObot
                                                                                                                                              So Fucking Banned
                                                                                                                                              • Sep 2004
                                                                                                                                              • 223
                                                                                                                                              #36
                                                                                                                                              Ok this is what you need to do. Spidering get your site hard linked on high pr sites the more the better. Your webpage must be of quality and not like the rest and keyword enriched. You try to cheat you wont last long search engines are not stupid so dont think your going to pull a fast one play it stright.

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                                                                                                                                                • Trax
                                                                                                                                                  [----------------------]
                                                                                                                                                  • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                  • 14486
                                                                                                                                                  #37
                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by marttali
                                                                                                                                                  And who are u, sir ?
                                                                                                                                                  haha
                                                                                                                                                  I'm the one that knows that people who think sites like momsinsex.com are real PR10s have no fucking clue about SEO.

                                                                                                                                                  I could prove 90% of your points being wrong

                                                                                                                                                  Why do you worry about PR ? It means shit, actually its the visitors that you want or am i wrong ?


                                                                                                                                                  Pr ensures u only frequent crawling and easier to exchange links.
                                                                                                                                                  Although it has its place in algo, its importance is like 2 - 10 % (maybe 0.5 % ) of the overall ranking criterea.
                                                                                                                                                  I would really love to see you proof those numbers haha. Maybe we can get swami to tell you why this is complete bullshit

                                                                                                                                                  Hey there's no point in arguing in this matter, especially none of us works for the google therefore we dont know it. It's pure speculation.
                                                                                                                                                  Pure speculation?
                                                                                                                                                  Wrong again

                                                                                                                                                  Please post more from your great SEO knowledge.

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                                                                                                                                                    • soukee
                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                      • Feb 2004
                                                                                                                                                      • 1108
                                                                                                                                                      #38
                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by netproperty
                                                                                                                                                      the secret is at setiathome.
                                                                                                                                                      I don't want to hunt aliens, I want to have positions in Google:-)
                                                                                                                                                      I am still looking for new mature trades. Let's trade

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                                                                                                                                                        • Scootermuze
                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                          • Dec 2001
                                                                                                                                                          • 4513
                                                                                                                                                          #39
                                                                                                                                                          There was a test made awhile back where a site had no relevant keywords, but they put a number of text links on various sites and used the keywords in those links. The site ended up at the top of Google for those search words..


                                                                                                                                                          Go from there.......

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                                                                                                                                                            • EscortBiz
                                                                                                                                                              Fuck Checks, CASH only!
                                                                                                                                                              • May 2002
                                                                                                                                                              • 19422
                                                                                                                                                              #40
                                                                                                                                                              forget ip, if you got inbound links (quality) you dont have to worry

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                                                                                                                                                                • marttali
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                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                  • 265
                                                                                                                                                                  #41
                                                                                                                                                                  hey trax, where did you get the idea that i thought momsinsex is for real, u should read the post before u start accusing people.
                                                                                                                                                                  i actually wondered howmuch could that someone owning that site could make on ebay selling textlinks to noobs who think pr is everything.

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                                                                                                                                                                    • marttali
                                                                                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                      • 265
                                                                                                                                                                      #42
                                                                                                                                                                      those numbers are taken straight from the ceiling, as i mentioned before - Pr is just a small piece in overall pie.

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                                                                                                                                                                        • AdultNex
                                                                                                                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                                                                                                                          • Feb 2003
                                                                                                                                                                          • 8985
                                                                                                                                                                          #43
                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                                                                                                          There was a test made awhile back where a site had no relevant keywords, but they put a number of text links on various sites and used the keywords in those links. The site ended up at the top of Google for those search words..


                                                                                                                                                                          Go from there.......
                                                                                                                                                                          ... Or you just could have said "anchor text" in links are important.

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                                                                                                                                                                            • warlock5
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                                                                                                                                                                              • Jan 2004
                                                                                                                                                                              • 2808
                                                                                                                                                                              #44
                                                                                                                                                                              Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                                                                                                              There was a test made awhile back where a site had no relevant keywords, but they put a number of text links on various sites and used the keywords in those links. The site ended up at the top of Google for those search words..


                                                                                                                                                                              Go from there.......
                                                                                                                                                                              I remember one involving the white house's or george bushe's website. Can't remember the keywords..

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                                                                                                                                                                                • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                  in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                  • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                  #45
                                                                                                                                                                                  Originally posted by WiredGuy
                                                                                                                                                                                  I have quite a few top rankings with PR0. marttali is right, PR is overrated these days. Especially with Google not doing an update in nearly 80 days now.

                                                                                                                                                                                  WG
                                                                                                                                                                                  I just got bumped out of my number 1 position on a few terms by a guy using a bunch of spam pages. All the pages are pr0's and are new sites. Is this some kind of stealth program they are using to make fake SE pages for googlebots to see and people see the other page? Is this the reason for the PR0's?
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                                                                                                                                                                                    • VeriSexy
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                                                                                                                                                                                      • Apr 2002
                                                                                                                                                                                      • 25463
                                                                                                                                                                                      #46
                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Scootermuze
                                                                                                                                                                                      There was a test made awhile back where a site had no relevant keywords, but they put a number of text links on various sites and used the keywords in those links. The site ended up at the top of Google for those search words..


                                                                                                                                                                                      Go from there.......
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                                                                                                                                                                                        • Trax
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                                                                                                                                                                                          • Aug 2001
                                                                                                                                                                                          • 14486
                                                                                                                                                                                          #47
                                                                                                                                                                                          Originally posted by crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                          I just got bumped out of my number 1 position on a few terms by a guy using a bunch of spam pages. All the pages are pr0's and are new sites. Is this some kind of stealth program they are using to make fake SE pages for googlebots to see and people see the other page? Is this the reason for the PR0's?
                                                                                                                                                                                          yes and no
                                                                                                                                                                                          the reason for the Pr0s might be that the indexed pages are very new (which is going to be the case i'd say)

                                                                                                                                                                                          there is no "stealth program"
                                                                                                                                                                                          what you are talking about is called cloaking

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                                                                                                                                                                                            • fr33pr0n
                                                                                                                                                                                              Registered User
                                                                                                                                                                                              • May 2004
                                                                                                                                                                                              • 67
                                                                                                                                                                                              #48
                                                                                                                                                                                              HAHHAHA - Wiredguy don't bother ICQing this german fucktard "killah" He is a scammer and if you see a fucking nickel from this shithole I would seriously crap my panties. All he wants is some free advice so he can run new spam campaigns anyhow.

                                                                                                                                                                                              Ask him about his old exit traffic program and why he never paid up!
                                                                                                                                                                                              Here's my ARS sig:

                                                                                                                                                                                              ARS=THEIVES

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                                                                                                                                                                                                • chowda
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  • Jun 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                  • 9527
                                                                                                                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                                                                                                                  i like buying quality backlinks.
                                                                                                                                                                                                  Someone finds you...
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                                                                                                                                                                                                  PS: Nationalnet is the best host I've ever had. And i tried alot of them.

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                                                                                                                                                                                                    • crockett
                                                                                                                                                                                                      in a van by the river
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                                                                                                                                                      • 76818
                                                                                                                                                                                                      #50
                                                                                                                                                                                                      Originally posted by Trax
                                                                                                                                                                                                      yes and no
                                                                                                                                                                                                      the reason for the Pr0s might be that the indexed pages are very new (which is going to be the case i'd say)

                                                                                                                                                                                                      there is no "stealth program"
                                                                                                                                                                                                      what you are talking about is called cloaking
                                                                                                                                                                                                      well stealth or cloaking it's the same meaning in my mind.. But your right the industry term is cloaking. I've seen programs that do this, that's why I was wondering if that's what would cause the pR0
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