Daymare

I'll be back.

VeriSexy

What are they used for? Hunting?

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smack

no i'm not retarded. i actually did some research to back up my point. sorry that you didn't have the drive to do the same.

and we're not talking cannons or "a variety of other weapons". just guns. ie, rifles.

and please, "fuck you i want a gun". just the fact that you would accept that as a more pertanint response over actual facts proves to me the idiocy of your argument.

i apoligize for researching my point and pointing out facts....what a backwards argument i have made.

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wdsguy

damn this news made my day

Pleasurepays

the point about the "arguments" is that there are equally valid arguments on both sides and the conversations themselves serve no purpose other than for each side of the argument to reinforce their own beliefs. you can just as well substute "gun" with "abortion" or any other heated topic and you will make no better progress in trying to convince others that your arguments are right and theirs are wrong.


sorry dickhead but "i did some research" does not really count if you are going to call me an idiot. i come from a family of professional hunters and use to own quite the arsenal myself as well as having shot all of the big game in Alaska. i am familiar with the arguments. very familiar with guns. very familiar with the history of guns as well as world history and their place in it.

just because you found a link suggesting that guns were used for hunting hundreds of years after guns first came to use in various forms, does not mean the primary use of guns were/are for hunting which is what you were implying. guns are used to kill people. guns were not invented and evolve because the world needed a better way to shoot a deer once a week.

Pleasurepays

.... and if you had the slightest clue what you are talking about, you would know that there were no firearms that were more accurate or efficient than existing weapons and methods for hunting until the first rifled barrels began to appear in the 1500-1600's.

guns began as weapons when gun powder was discovered and used in warfare by arabs/persions around 1000 a.d. that happened about 500 years before your pathetic link and about 504 years before your pathetic argument.

your "research" sucks. in fact, you suck at the internet.

jade_dragon

*sigh*

1) Differance in canada and america is how we view each other and how we are taught to view each other. Canadians do not really fear each other the way we do and they also take care of each other a little better so people are less prone to resort to things that we do.

2) Each gun is designed to do certain things. Riffles (non assault) hit things from far away, shot guns cover an area when using shot and blow holes when using slugs, hand guns are meant to be compact, easy to weild and concealable, semi autos are meant to be easy to operate, use smaller parts and jam less, fully auto are meant to be able to lay down supression fire and kill large amounts of targets. ALL guns are not meant to be anti personel but all CAN be. Hand guns are meant to kill people as are fully automatics there is no other real feasable use, this is why most people/laws are set against them

3) In america when someone breaks into your house you will kill them first, worry about the law second. As long as they were in the house and thus posed a threat, any competant lawyer should be able to get you off.

4) Why would your alarm be off when you are home? One of the major ideas is to have "eyes" and "ears" open all the time, so maybe you would not have it on in the daytime but at night when most breakins happen why would it not be on. Getting a dog most likely means something that has some kind of breeding for protection/preservation (akita, pitt bull, bull mastiff, doberman, rott, german shepard, golden retreaver)

5) Former slaves with a hatred for the man, former slave....? I thought the big claim was that slavery has been over and that they should just get over it, now they are all former slaves?

6) You can go anywhere you want as long as you have respect for the people who live there, you do not look down on them and you carry yourself like you have some kind of backbone. If you go in acting snotty or smug or like you are afraid of anything with a tan you run a bigger risk of getting fucked with. It is all about respect, don't start none, won't be none. You think no whites ever go where you are talking about..... With statistics on black on black crime you would think blacks would be the ones afraid to walk through the hood.

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Volantt

A golden retriever would lick the burgler to death. I own one. But I guess you could tell someone was there since it would run to be pet/played with when they broke in. I use to have a doberman which was an awesome dog. Had it since a puppy and socalized it with people which made guests feel much more comfortable around the doberman and when I took her for walks kids use to be able to play with her and I really didn't have a fear she would bite but you never know.

A dog will act and be the way you train and raise them.

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jade_dragon

Oh one last thing that interested me in someone's response.

American culture is big on guns, and yes guns are a mancho power trip for most but not all. Yes almost everyone I know who does not have a gun hardly has any problems, those who have guns are always in some shit. They also act differantly when they have it and when they do not.

My little story.

I was in the gun store with my friend getting his new 1911. I am standing at the counter, he is on my left and there is an attactive female about 28 on my right. My friend's wife who works there is checking him out and there is a guy who is behind the counter also, he barely know us but knows my friend is married to his co-worker and that I am friends with both of them. So the owner comes up who jokes with me all the time and is a great guy and he makes a joke about the 1911 Shawn is getting and him still being a punk and walks off. So then I finish it off by saying "Yeah man you should get a Dirty Harry or a Desert Eagle, instant man maker, pheacalator, instant cock enlarger!"

At this point the guy behind the counter says in his best attempt to seem manly, "EH, there is a lady present"

Now in my head I am like "WTF" and I respond by dropping all emotion from my face, staring the guy in eyes and raising my right eyebrowl. The girl on my right chuckles and agrees with what I said. I continue to stare down amd the clerk who promptly breaks eye contact and walks off to do something else trying his best not to look me in the face for the remainder of my stay.

Any chic who is in the gun store getting a gun who is remotely hot is not going to trip on the word COCK. She is obviously not some prissy, easily offended bitch, she is a woman who probably lives alone and watches sports and hangs out with the guys.

To make this all fit together, everyone in the store wears a gun at all times, a pistol either on the leg, shoulder or hip. The question is do you think this guy would have ever opened his mouth to a stranger and as much as I hate to say it especially a black man who is powerfully built and is taller than him if he did not have his "courage" strapped on his leg? Keep in mind that this guy has probably disrespected women in FAR worst mannors than saying cock in front of one? The rational answer is no he would not have. The fact that he had a gun, is around guns, has that mancho attitude of cutomers around him all the time and the "good ol boy" mentality all came into play of him getting his nuts up and coming at me that way. What I did was show him I was not meant to be talked to in that mannor, if he had a problem with what I said he most definitely should have said it with some intelligence instead of trying to draw attention to himself. A simple "The lady probably does not appreciate that language, you should appologize" would have done. In the streets without the gun he probably would not even have said that.

Hand guns allow people to step above their level of power, it is instant power and authority to them, those who seek it often times are weak and timid by nature. Unlike others who walk around with a powerful presence and demand respect with their posture they do not know balance. Unlike someone who is confident in the ability to fend off an attacker and is mindful of surroundings and the tone and body language of others, they simply "know" they can do as they wish because they think they are the ones with control because they have it. My respect to those who carry guns but do not act like it, those who do not pull till they are squeezing the trigger, men who are men and women who are women before they get their guns and remain the same after.

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jade_dragon

No dog can bite a bullet, the idea behind the dog is to be a better set of ears than you have. They will alert you to the presence of another person. Everyone I know who has a golden has a nice dog, dog loves people and kids, but if they are not home and you come to the house the dog will bark, if you raise your voice to them or yell or move towards them fast the dog will bark and growl. If they are on the other side of the house and you come to the front door the dog will bark. The dog knows when there is a problem, it knows its job is to protect the ones who feed and care for it, it knows to alert them to the presence of a stranger and also knows what increased agression is from someone it barely knows towards someone it loves.

I had a pitt who was the same way around children (supervised of course) and strangers. She was well socialized, but she pinned more than one UPS man in his truck if she was watching the house. I have heard of any of the dogs on that list taking a bullet for the safety and protection of its owner when they believe the owner is in danger and that is why they are good dogs for safety. Pitts/mastiffs refuse to back down from anyone that is not its primary care giver, dobermans and rotts are simular when in groups above 2, shepards would rather die than betray or let harm come to its owner, this is why they are used by the police. It is half training and half the nature of the dog.

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Rich

hahahaha

You obviously don't quite grasp the concept of "per capita"