Joesho, you always this big a crybaby? Run along and change your diaper.

There is nothing to worry about. Smart people will see exactly what happened in this poll.

And tell me something, Nick. Put your friendship with Joesho aside for a second and answer this question honestly.

Which one of these actions would bother/upset you more?

A: I promise to make good on threats of literally beating the shit out of you, your friends and your family at the first chance I get.

or

B: I start a thread on a forum with baseless allegations about you being a child molestor.

Be 100% honest.

Wrong again chumbly.

I'm not agreeing with the results of this poll at all. Of course it's one-sided and obviously is simply a message that a lot of webmasters simply don't like Trey, period. If you don't like this kind of backlash and think it's unfair then do something about it. As in, clean up the asshole act. Sitting here bickering about it isn't going to prevent it from further happening. You know as well as I do how GFY is.

And I am one of about 500 voices who have been telling Trey to clean up his act, but basically I don't give a shit whether he does or doesn't or dries up and blows dust out his ass. My ONLY point on this thread, which you still seem to not be able to wrap your head around, is that no one can expect to talk shit about so many good honest webmasters over the past 2 years and then justifiably act all indignant and defensive because their program is being attacked. To do so makes you look foolish.

Bottom line is that I won't send hits to a program run by a guy like Trey. He has posted outright lies about me too many times, there is no way in hell I or many of my fellow webmasters will trust him with hard-earned traffic. Will anyone who has half a brain send their hits to any of the other three programs in the poll? I wouldn't think so.

Anyone with a single working brain cell should also know that Joeshmo is simply including epictrash in order to slam trey in a petty way. But it doesn't surprise me, because Trey brings this kind of petty shit on himself. You know it. I know it. How long it continues is up to Trey.

You're absolutely right. And nothing you or I or a Joesho poll can say will change that, so we're simply wasting out time writing out paragraphs to each other.

Make no mistake, I respect you and I think you're fucking hilarious.

B. And here is why. If I run my mouth, I have every intention if things were ever to come to blows to back myself up. If I can't beat you, I will find a chair and do my best to beat you to death with it. It's as simple as that. Getting my ass kicked is not something that affects my bottom line.

Being accused in an adult webmasters forum, even if it is a place like this that should never be taken seriously, of being a child molestor is something I cannot defend and may have a good chance of indeed affecting my bottom line. All I have in that case is my word. Now if some new guy is coming on the boards for the first time, and he sees some bigshot program owner calling me a pedo, what's he gonna believe? He doesn't know anything about how this place works. He doesn't know that Trey is just "talking trash". He is gonna consider the source and say to himself, "well this guy has his own program so he MUST be standup, I don't think I will do any business with Nick". This has nothing to do with my friendship with Joe. I see Trey making fucked up accusations about the mans homelife and I simply said that if he is gonna make accusations like that then he should expect a little flack for it. Nothing more, nothing less.

By the way.... what is the deal with #4 Quickbuck? I don't recall what their malfunction is/was.

Anyone?

Aside from being run by idiots who got banned from GFY and whose employees go into drunken rages at conventions and throw chairs off balconies and then claim they blacked out? I think there were also some serious spyware issues.

Nick, I guess you and I disagree on that. I've had lots of negative threads started about me. Have you seen em? Nope, cause they're buried on page 296 and page 489 of this forum.

Why are they buried? Because I knew they were bullshit, so instead of arguing and making a big stinkfest about them, I ignored them. If I know they're bullshit, it doesn't matter to me what anyone else thinks. And if I know they're bullshit, I have no need to argue my side. And if someone decided not to do business with me because of them, that would be their loss.

But if Joesho pounds the crap out of me, which he easily could do at any convention which I attend, the scars will last forever. Running your mouth on a message forum is no reason to have your ass kicked. We're not in high school anymore.