What's more stable? Working for yourself or a company? - GoFuckYourself.com

eroswebmaster · 09-08-2004, 11:46 AM

I tend to think working for myself...and I'll explain why.

Working for myself I don't have to concern myself with the poltics in a company where it doesn't matter how well you perform you still may get fired.

I had a supervisor when I was with Taco Bell who wanted me out of there for two reasons...#1 he felt I made too much money...#2 he didn't like the fact that I stood up to him on an issue to force kids to work on Thanksgiving.

Even though I took that particular store from $12K a week to over $22K a week and was #1 in growth company wide for the entire year I was at that particular store. In the end he got fired I didn't...but I still left...LOL

Also you don't have to worry about management who want to bonus that year and do so by firing 100's of staff to pay for that bonus while announcing how much money they saved the company.

I also love the knowledge that I am no longer working to make someone else rich...hell I'm not making myself rich either at this point...LOL but if I'm going to spend 12-16 hours a day working for anyone it may as well be myself.

NickPapageorgio · 09-08-2004, 11:48 AM

You will never get rich as long as someone else signs the front of your check. That has been my philosophy. I will never work for an "employer" again. Like you said, no matter how well you perform, if the political shit is against you, then you will still get the pink slip.

WiredGuy · 09-08-2004, 11:48 AM

The way I see it is, when things get tight, who are the first to get cut, upper management/owners or employees? When you are the upper management, you control your future. An employee does not.

WG

eroswebmaster · 09-08-2004, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by WiredGuy
The way I see it is, when things get tight, who are the first to get cut, upper management/owners or employees? When you are the upper management, you control your future. An employee does not.

WG

Yep.

pornstar2pac · 09-08-2004, 11:49 AM

I have made it so I didn't have to work for anyone. going on 12 years now. some years I just got by, other years I did very well. I would never trade it for anything. I work when i want too. I love it

TDF · 09-08-2004, 11:50 AM

i do both

both provide me the freedom to get accomplished what I want accomplished

excitica · 09-08-2004, 11:50 AM

Working in company is more stable, but workinf for yourself is more interesting and amazing

hydro · 09-08-2004, 11:50 AM

ive been working for myself since i was 16 and can safely say ill never, ever want to work for another person unless it was necessary but i don't think that will be the case. I like getting work on my own time and doing things the way i want them done.

eroswebmaster · 09-08-2004, 11:50 AM

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Originally posted by NickPapageorgio
You will never get rich as long as someone else signs the front of your check. That has been my philosophy. I will never work for an "employer" again. Like you said, no matter how well you perform, if the political shit is against you, then you will still get the pink slip.

I do not miss company politics one bit. Or having to compete with the boss' son...or better yet when I was in the commercial/film industry my competition was graduates from the film schools of UCLA, USC, and AFI who would work for free just to get their foot in the door.

eroswebmaster · 09-08-2004, 11:53 AM

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Originally posted by excitica
Working in company is more stable, but workinf for yourself is more interesting and amazing

I honestly think that we're meant to believe that working in a company is more stable...it's that old mentality that has been pounded into us for years.

When I was a kid *I'm 38 now* people still believed that you should go to work for 1 company spend 25 years there, retire with a pension and gold watch...but things have changed.

Companies don't want people in there with experience who demand a higher salary, better benefits when they can get 2-3 x's the employees with less salary and possibly zero benefits..so while it may be "stable" during your 30's and 40's..wait until you turn 50 a point where you quickly become expendable.

Doctor Dre · 09-08-2004, 11:55 AM

Working for a big corporation with union is more stable .... but if you are smart enough to put money aside then working for yourself works too

demented · 09-08-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I'm going to spend 12-16 hours a day working for anyone it may as well be myself.

Amen

BigWebRev · 09-08-2004, 11:56 AM

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Originally posted by eroswebmaster
I do not miss company politics one bit.

Hell Ya, office bullshit & politics can really suck.....imo

stocktrader23 · 09-08-2004, 11:59 AM

Every time someone says "but my money is stable" I say my money may not be stable but it's always been more than that little shit. I make the equivelant of a years pay in a month. How stable do I have to be after that? 1 year at my unstable income and I could have 10 bad ones and still be ahead of you.

NickPapageorgio · 09-08-2004, 12:00 PM

My last employer had 2 sons. Both were fresh out of HIGHSCHOOL giving me advice on what I was doing. Not only was I a foreman but I had 8 years of experience in my field and had been a foreman on multi million dollar projects whereas the projects I was getting the "advice" on were between 100 & 200K jobs. Makes you just want to smack the shit out of the little fuckers.

RedShoe · 09-08-2004, 12:03 PM

working for myself is keeping me very busy. I'd rather be here than in an office listening to office bullshit all day.

My wife works for a company where a head writer who had been there for nearly 20 years got let go. In years past people would get a full years salary as severance.

This guy had his pay CUT in HALF, then a year later was let go with 4 months severance pay.

Fuck that.

DrewKole · 09-08-2004, 12:03 PM

Erm, I have a dayjob that I have 7+ years of experience in almost every single position in the industry.

I'm upper management.

It's infinitely more stable than this industry, and I don't have to deal with pompous 18yr old pricks all day, that do nothing but plump up their already enormous egos.

Cheers.

dennisthemenace · 09-08-2004, 12:04 PM

Working for yourself, by far...

At least in a self-employment situation you know what you have to do and then do it.

Being employed there's no telling what psycho you'll end up under and no real way to know (until it's too late) how that person (or group of people) is handling business.

eroswebmaster · 09-08-2004, 12:10 PM

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Originally posted by dennisthemenace

Being employed there's no telling what psycho you'll end up under and no real way to know (until it's too late) how that person (or group of people) is handling business.

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dennisthemenace · 09-08-2004, 12:15 PM

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eroswebmaster March 1st, 2003 Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seat 4 @ Venetian Poker Room Posts: 20,295	What's more stable? Working for yourself or a company? I tend to think working for myself...and I'll explain why. Working for myself I don't have to concern myself with the poltics in a company where it doesn't matter how well you perform you still may get fired. I had a supervisor when I was with Taco Bell who wanted me out of there for two reasons...#1 he felt I made too much money...#2 he didn't like the fact that I stood up to him on an issue to force kids to work on Thanksgiving. Even though I took that particular store from $12K a week to over $22K a week and was #1 in growth company wide for the entire year I was at that particular store. In the end he got fired I didn't...but I still left...LOL Also you don't have to worry about management who want to bonus that year and do so by firing 100's of staff to pay for that bonus while announcing how much money they saved the company. I also love the knowledge that I am no longer working to make someone else rich...hell I'm not making myself rich either at this point...LOL but if I'm going to spend 12-16 hours a day working for anyone it may as well be myself. __________________ For rent - ICQ 127-027-910 Click here for more details

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NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	You will never get rich as long as someone else signs the front of your check. That has been my philosophy. I will never work for an "employer" again. Like you said, no matter how well you perform, if the political shit is against you, then you will still get the pink slip. __________________

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hydro Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Dirty 3rd Posts: 4,216	ive been working for myself since i was 16 and can safely say ill never, ever want to work for another person unless it was necessary but i don't think that will be the case. I like getting work on my own time and doing things the way i want them done.

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NickPapageorgio Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: NC Posts: 8,323	My last employer had 2 sons. Both were fresh out of HIGHSCHOOL giving me advice on what I was doing. Not only was I a foreman but I had 8 years of experience in my field and had been a foreman on multi million dollar projects whereas the projects I was getting the "advice" on were between 100 & 200K jobs. Makes you just want to smack the shit out of the little fuckers. __________________

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DrewKole Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 5,193	Erm, I have a dayjob that I have 7+ years of experience in almost every single position in the industry. I'm upper management. It's infinitely more stable than this industry, and I don't have to deal with pompous 18yr old pricks all day, that do nothing but plump up their already enormous egos. Cheers.

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