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Old 09-07-2004, 02:28 AM   #1
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Why is REVSHARE better?? Examples?

Most of the programs that offer revshare are cookie cutter paysites.

Nothing rebills.



Why should I use rebills?

If a program offers 30.00 per signup and or 50/50

99% take persignup...


Are there any programs worth takeing the rebill option (paysites)
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:30 AM   #2
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Speak for yourself but there are tons of paysites out there that I would LOVE to be paid 50% on.

On my own stuff I have retention % that most programs would KILL for. You would not believe it.

This of course never applies to cookie cutter paysites.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:31 AM   #3
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If rev share wasn't making more $, how could sites paying 30 $ per signup live ? They wouldn't ...

You just NEED to find the right site that will rebill right ... that mean joining the member section everytime you try a new revshare sponsor and check everything out (what 95 % of the webmasters aren't doing)
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:32 AM   #4
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I never had much luck with RevShare...
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:36 AM   #5
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Are there any programs worth takeing the rebill option (paysites)
I'll list 1 good recurring sponsor because I'm in a good mood.

http://new.evilgeniuscash.com/?ref=100139

60/40 recurring. I've been promoting them for months, sent 100's of signups, overall ratio = 1:95. Getting rebills almost everyday.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:37 AM   #6
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You just NEED to find the right site that will rebill right ... that mean joining the member section everytime you try a new revshare sponsor and check everything out (what 95 % of the webmasters aren't doing)
exactly!

Let me give you a recent example... Naughty America added NaughtyOffice to its portfolio... I checked out the members area and it had 4 or 5 exclusive videos and that's it. I was like but was told that the access to their other sites would keep the retention normal... I didn't believe it but still sent a few signups to see if they go past the $2.XX trial. If I remember right none went past the trial... for obvious reason... when people join a site featuring exclusive "naughty office" scenario movies they will not only continue to be active members just because they are able to see unique videos of latin maids getting fucked... you know what I'm talking about.

No offence to NaughtAmerica. I generally like your program

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:37 AM   #7
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I promote many revshare programs and on avg ill make about $75 per signup (1.5 year avg.)

Its all about exclusive, niche content and a few weekly updates.

Just looked over my numbers since im planning to start a PPS program for my sites.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:44 AM   #8
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If rev share wasn't making more $, how could sites paying 30 $ per signup live ? They wouldn't ...

You just NEED to find the right site that will rebill right ... that mean joining the member section everytime you try a new revshare sponsor and check everything out (what 95 % of the webmasters aren't doing)
Exactly.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:45 AM   #9
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I agree, a lot of ccbill revshare program, or cookie sites, with a few movies, and few plugins and that is it.

I think on http://partners.dieselaction.com we do it different. All exclusive content, updated daily with 3 new movie scenes etc.

It's really easy to make around 70 USD per sale. Now we have a 100% revshare promo, it's even easier

I would say just send a small % of your traffic to some good revshare sites, and see how it does.

Some good revshare programs are IMO

www.tushycash.com
www.payserve.com
www.lightspeedcash.com
and of course http://partners.dieselaction.com

I'm sure there will be many more, but I can tell you about these guys from personal experience.

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:50 AM   #10
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I promote many revshare programs and on avg ill make about $75 per signup (1.5 year avg.)
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BULLSHIT !!!
there is no single porn site with that kind of #s nowadays or ever exististed this century.

we do promote some revShares now.. well only one and its yours.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:52 AM   #11
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Some good revshare programs are IMO

www.tushycash.com
www.payserve.com
www.lightspeedcash.com
and of course http://partners.dieselaction.com
From what I've see I can not agree to lightspeedcash, don't know the other progs or how others perform with them.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:54 AM   #12
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from the top100 #s posted by few programs recently
it clearly showed that revShares dont make webmasters much money
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:55 AM   #13
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BULLSHIT !!!
there is no single porn site with that kind of #s nowadays or ever exististed this century.

we do promote some revShares now.. well only one and its yours.
You cant group all porn sites together, if I told you I get 40 bucks for a 60 minute VHS it wouldnt make sense either, its all about niche etc.

I know what my sites do and I dont care to bullshit, I am starting a PPS program for my sites and I do not bank on exits and shit like that.

By the way thanks for pushing my sites.
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Old 09-07-2004, 02:55 AM   #14
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Rev-share works great for us and our webmasters. We offer exclusive content, daily/weekly updates, bonus content, tons of quality plugins and outstanding member support.

Examples of why Revshare is a great option occured recently. August was a slow month for one of our webmasters that makes and posts his own galleries. But his great rebills from pevious months salvaged an otherwise horrible month for him. Now on a PPS model, he would have been screwed. Another webmaster went on vacation for the entire month of August and though was not promoting nearly as much, he had a good amount of rebills to make him some $$ while he was gone..

I think it's a good idea for webmasters to diversify period. We do with all our sponsors on our TGPS/MGPS..

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Old 09-07-2004, 02:55 AM   #15
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I agree, a lot of ccbill revshare program, or cookie sites, with a few movies, and few plugins and that is it.

I think on http://partners.dieselaction.com we do it different. All exclusive content, updated daily with 3 new movie scenes etc.

It's really easy to make around 70 USD per sale. Now we have a 100% revshare promo, it's even easier

I would say just send a small % of your traffic to some good revshare sites, and see how it does.

Some good revshare programs are IMO

www.tushycash.com
www.payserve.com
www.lightspeedcash.com
and of course http://partners.dieselaction.com

I'm sure there will be many more, but I can tell you about these guys from personal experience.

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Old 09-07-2004, 03:13 AM   #16
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BULLSHIT !!!
there is no single porn site with that kind of #s nowadays or ever exististed this century.

we do promote some revShares now.. well only one and its yours.
Well I dont know about Escortbiz's figures, but I do know there are plenty of revshare sponsors out there that will average over $35/signup after a 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 years. Results will vary for everyone of course, even with the same revshare sponsor. Sometimes its difficult to calculate your figures when you're constantly sending your revshare sponsor more signups, but those who have been around long enough know which revshare sponsors work and which ones dont
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:21 AM   #17
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Well I dont know about Escortbiz's figures, but I do know there are plenty of revshare sponsors out there that will average over $35/signup after a 1 1/2 - 2 1/2 years. Results will vary for everyone of course, even with the same revshare sponsor. Sometimes its difficult to calculate your figures when you're constantly sending your revshare sponsor more signups, but those who have been around long enough know which revshare sponsors work and which ones dont
he said 75 not 35 and thats his cut after revShare, the way i understood it.

If you can show me a revShare program whos members are worth avg 100-150$ gross, i'll dump you a lot of traffic.
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:49 AM   #18
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Our site retains very very well, amateur piss drinking and fisting retains quite easily.... See sig
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Old 09-07-2004, 04:52 AM   #19
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xx - DieselCash.com Partnership 0000-youngporn.net 12 Aug 2004 1:16pm Rebill $17.48 Y 09 Nov 2003 37 16 Dec 2003 30 11 Sep 2004 9
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Old 09-07-2004, 05:06 AM   #21
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Most of the programs that offer revshare are cookie cutter paysites.

Nothing rebills.



Why should I use rebills?

If a program offers 30.00 per signup and or 50/50

99% take persignup...


Are there any programs worth takeing the rebill option (paysites)
Why limit yourself to $30/signup? I do a lot more per signup with tushy cash & fetish affiliates to name a few. I promote most recurring programs, but if you want fast money I can understand...
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If rev share wasn't making more $, how could sites paying 30 $ per signup live ? They wouldn't ...

You just NEED to find the right site that will rebill right ... that mean joining the member section everytime you try a new revshare sponsor and check everything out (what 95 % of the webmasters aren't doing)
well with revshare you don't get the exit sales, the upsells and the emails that a pps program is taking into account with their payouts
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BULLSHIT !!!
there is no single porn site with that kind of #s nowadays or ever exististed this century.

we do promote some revShares now.. well only one and its yours.
rebills far right column





I got a ton of 150+ dollar joins goin on. ONLY with serious sticky content.
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I got a ton of 150+ dollar joins goin on. ONLY with serious sticky content.
I think you misread. Those are "page views".
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I got a ton of 150+ dollar joins goin on. ONLY with serious sticky content.
Nice, what sponsor is was that?
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OH SHIT the rebills are startin to heat up. I think I take today off and go out on my new boat

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when you find a revshare site where the rebills are good
GO REVSHARE
making more than 100$/sign-up isnt rare.... why would you want to only have 35-40$ ???
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Anyone want to mention some of these good fetish revshare sites?
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Most people pushing revshare with us are very happy. I guess it helps that we have exclusive sites with exclusive content. If someone is a fan of a particular model or porn start or single girl then the member will stay a lot longer. Look at what it did for Lightspeed. Retention with them is fucking amazing!

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Sorry folks no one is making $75 or $100 on average with a revshare. It is possible to have single sale or a couple of sales rebill and go nuts for you but there is not any program out there that is doing that.

I post threads like this all the time and here are the ones that MATCH PPS for me:

Mr Skin $36
Tushy cash $40
Lightspeedcash $35~

Anyone banging em out higher then this?

This is the net for the last 3 months divided by the signups generated on programs that had traffic presented before that time fo about equal amounts.
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We have been around since 97 doing revshare right

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4500 new pics added weekly 90% exclusive content. Old content is never removed. If your promoting Revshare and not using this site your loosing out. There is no cookie cutter here and it renews better than almost any other program on the net.
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We have members who have been rebilling since 2001. We've also got members who have been with us since 1999, but their credit cards expired since then so they had to rejoin


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Most of the programs that offer revshare are cookie cutter paysites.

Nothing rebills.


Actually in my experience it's the opposite. It's the PPS sites that are all quick designs to fill out programs.

I never touch PPS sites, or any sites using NATS or MPA3 and I do $60-$100 per signup due to retention all through revshare.
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Old 09-07-2004, 11:38 AM   #36
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Trax,

I appreciate your comments.

That is true. Naughty office is a new site with few episodes to start. However, you must have had a unique experience b/c our other resellers are doing quite well.

I would love for you to hit me up on ICQ to discuss getting you to push NO again. Maybe we can make it worth your time to give us another solid push.
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At the end of the day, there is probably little difference between the two types of programmes, cash wise. Of course, some rev share sites do kick ass, and those that don't will have made a load of rebills for some webmasters.

As for revshare having cookie cutter sites - Please - Get real!

Most of the large sponsors have 60-150 web site fronts (cookie cutters) leading to one members area which is upsell hell for the surfer.

Surfer finishes his cheap trial and finds it cost hime a whole load more with all he had to fork out for upsells.

He also probably joined another upsell hell from one of the links inside the first members area, and now is getting into deep shit financially.


Eventually, he learns how to join a site, keep his cc in his back pocket, and cancel the rebilling the second he gets confirmation of his joining - (Due to all his previous upsell problems)

Revshare programmes get the surfer usually after he has been screwed around (I said usually, as most of us rev share progs, have partners who are pretty good with seo and often send traffic that is pretty new to the net - Those rebill like hell.

I can show rebills going back 6 years - I actually posted a load of them here once and all were partner sales - But the true matter is, most of the joins you get are from seasoned surfers who have been fucked around far too often, and cancel right away.


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