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boobmaster 09-06-2004 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
Yeah the realization of death is scary moment. There is a huge difference between knowing your are going to die and realizing it. I spent 6 months in therapy, lost 30 pounds and had panic attacks for over a year.

I remember the moment. I was around 21 laying in bed doing my usual thinking and wrap up for the day in my mind. Then something happened that didn't usually. I was thinking about mortality and life span. Stuff I normally think about and it doesn't really do anything wierd to me as far as physical reactions go.
But on this night something clicked and I was able to truely conceptualize mortality and the scope of time. I had a severe physical reaction and a feeling I had never had before. I thought I had just flipped and I was going to be crazy after I came out of the episode.

Certain sequence of thoughts as I call it came into play. From what I remember it had to do with time and time perception. I was looking at my life and the time it took for me to reach this point. In my mind the time it took to reach the age of 21 was only a flash and there was no sense of time-lapse. Then I equated the fact that at some point I "will" be 70-80 years of age looking at my life and it will be the same flash. There will be no seeming span of time.

It's funny now even as I type this there is no physical reaction to the thought of death and time. That's why I say there is a difference between knowing you are going to die and realizing it. I think for that year of my life I was able to truely realize my mortality.

It's taken years and I still deal with the thoughts of death everyday. But I am able to go about my life now, im not paralized with the thoughts of death.

This all happened at the best time in my life. I was 21 years old I had made my first million. I was in the best shape of my life, I had a great girlfriend and friends. I think it was the idea that this was going to have to end at some point that helped trigger it.

It wasn't all bad having this realization. Before I had my realization I had an attitude that people who have "mental" problems like anxiety were weak and I had a terrible lack of respect for religious people.
After my bout with death anxiety I have a whole new respect for mental illness and religion. Though I am not religious there were moments during my anxiety attacks that I was beggin for "god" or something to show me there is more to life then just this existanct. I hoped for anything. Heaven/Hell whatever. It helped me realize why religion was really created. As humans we are the only species that can realize our own mortality. With this gift and curse we need a crutch to help us through. The idea that there is some special force and place out there helps many cope with mortality.

So in the end I think I am a better person. It was essentially the best and worst thing that has ever happened to me. In my worst moment all I wanted was my normal feelings back. I wanted all the problems of everyday life all the things that the anxiety had robbed me of. There is nothing like being overcomed by one feeling. All you want is your old life back with all of it's problems trials, tribulations and happy points.

Sorry to ramble. This is just something I have dealth with for many years and I have lots to say about it.

-Tony

Wow! I think I have been where you were. I know the feelings. Hit me up on ICQ sometime.

MrJackMeHoff 09-06-2004 10:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JSA Matt
you need jesus
I'd fuck jesus in the doo doo hole with a lawn dart.

boobmaster 09-06-2004 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by MrJackMeHoff
I'd fuck jesus in the doo doo hole with a lawn dart.
I'm guessing you're not a Christian

erehwon 09-07-2004 12:03 AM

I want to die in my sleep like grandpa, not screaming like the others in his car! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh http://www.wildmonkeysex.com/gfy/smilielol.gif

fro n ss 09-07-2004 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by xxxoutsourcing
Death does not bother me - it's the way that one might die that is worse.
As long as it's quick that'll work, slow painfull death would suck.

so true

bangman- 09-07-2004 12:06 AM

It's no good that it is inhibiting your everday life.
Death is coming. There is nothing any of us can do about it.
You HAVE to cope with it. Period.

CET 09-07-2004 12:12 AM

I've noticed that people who fear death are mostly theists, and their theism is a way of coping with death. Consider it part of the survival instinct in that theism promises that when you die, your existence continues.

I've come to terms with my fear of death this way, "What was it like before you existed? Chances are it'll be just like that when you're dead."

OzMan 09-07-2004 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by boobmaster
It isn't death we fear. It is the loss of consciousness. We were born with a desire for eternal consciousness, which to me is evidence that we will live forever in some form.
I basically agree but would put it like this.

When we are born we forget that we are an eternal consiousness. Hence we have a deeply rooted fear of death a.k.a "The Survival Instinct" as we forget that we are much more than just physical bodies.

The trick is to make a concerted effort to "remember" that you are more than just your body long before your body wears out and/or you lose it :)

Then you will be able to bring more of that greater consiousness into your daily life at will 24/7 whether for guidance or just to make things go better generally. :thumbsup

edit: But taxes scare me shitless!!

baddog 09-07-2004 12:17 AM

I actually am looking forward to it . . . can't wait to see what is on the other side

CDSmith 09-07-2004 12:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssHat
Are you afraid of death?
No.

Death is inevitable. Why would I be afraid of something that is inevitable?

baddog 09-07-2004 12:31 AM

50 ghosts of GFY

OzMan 09-07-2004 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssHat
Not the act of dying, but death itself.
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and it's come to the point where the fear of death is inhibiting my everyday life.

How do you all cope with this?

This book is a classic in the field and may help alleviate your fears.

http://www.lifeafterlife.com/html/bkimg/1lg.GIF
http://www.lifeafterlife.com/html/rmbooks.htm#bk1b

liquidmoe 09-07-2004 12:57 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TonyL
Yeah the realization of death is scary moment. There is a huge difference between knowing your are going to die and realizing it. I spent 6 months in therapy, lost 30 pounds and had panic attacks for over a year.

I remember the moment. I was around 21 laying in bed doing my usual thinking and wrap up for the day in my mind. Then something happened that didn't usually. I was thinking about mortality and life span. Stuff I normally think about and it doesn't really do anything wierd to me as far as physical reactions go.
But on this night something clicked and I was able to truely conceptualize mortality and the scope of time. I had a severe physical reaction and a feeling I had never had before. I thought I had just flipped and I was going to be crazy after I came out of the episode.

Certain sequence of thoughts as I call it came into play. From what I remember it had to do with time and time perception. I was looking at my life and the time it took for me to reach this point. In my mind the time it took to reach the age of 21 was only a flash and there was no sense of time-lapse. Then I equated the fact that at some point I "will" be 70-80 years of age looking at my life and it will be the same flash. There will be no seeming span of time.

It's funny now even as I type this there is no physical reaction to the thought of death and time. That's why I say there is a difference between knowing you are going to die and realizing it. I think for that year of my life I was able to truely realize my mortality.

It's taken years and I still deal with the thoughts of death everyday. But I am able to go about my life now, im not paralized with the thoughts of death.

This all happened at the best time in my life. I was 21 years old I had made my first million. I was in the best shape of my life, I had a great girlfriend and friends. I think it was the idea that this was going to have to end at some point that helped trigger it.

It wasn't all bad having this realization. Before I had my realization I had an attitude that people who have "mental" problems like anxiety were weak and I had a terrible lack of respect for religious people.
After my bout with death anxiety I have a whole new respect for mental illness and religion. Though I am not religious there were moments during my anxiety attacks that I was beggin for "god" or something to show me there is more to life then just this existanct. I hoped for anything. Heaven/Hell whatever. It helped me realize why religion was really created. As humans we are the only species that can realize our own mortality. With this gift and curse we need a crutch to help us through. The idea that there is some special force and place out there helps many cope with mortality.

So in the end I think I am a better person. It was essentially the best and worst thing that has ever happened to me. In my worst moment all I wanted was my normal feelings back. I wanted all the problems of everyday life all the things that the anxiety had robbed me of. There is nothing like being overcomed by one feeling. All you want is your old life back with all of it's problems trials, tribulations and happy points.

Sorry to ramble. This is just something I have dealth with for many years and I have lots to say about it.

-Tony

I've been going through pretty much the same thing for the past 2-3 years, it really is tiring me out, but sometimes I feel I can finally relax, as if I'm no longer concerned about it.

Then in the worst moments those thoughts come back to nag you and it is a bit paralyzing.

reynold 09-07-2004 01:09 AM

no. there is life after death and i believe in the reincarnation of the soul. :angel

ivil_klown 09-07-2004 03:00 AM

worrying wastes time and time is precious therefore your wasting everything that is precious to you.

Living For Today 09-07-2004 03:02 AM

Living for today baby.


Living for today.

tgpmakers 09-07-2004 03:18 AM

Death does scare but then I just look UP and think where the fuck does it end. Space where does it end think about it there's got to be something after death.

Just live everyday to the fullest and don't worry about it!!!

Goatse 09-07-2004 03:20 AM

I'm no more afraid of death than I am of sleep.

Sarma 09-07-2004 04:43 AM

i am death, but don't tell anyone

Joe Citizen 09-07-2004 04:55 AM

Those who believe in an afterlife are those without the courage to live.

Religion is for suckers.

strats 09-07-2004 04:59 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssHat
Not the act of dying, but death itself.
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and it's come to the point where the fear of death is inhibiting my everyday life.

How do you all cope with this?

Simple. .... you hire somone like me to stand watch with guns while you sleep.

If you are a good man, I am the very best on earth


Death is real.

Doctor Dre 09-07-2004 05:01 AM

Not really ... It will happen when it happens . I cannot do much about it

strats 09-07-2004 05:06 AM

Theres absolutley no reason why fears of death should inhibit your daily life. Yet It does so many.

U know why people fear death?

I could go into some science about it

strats 09-07-2004 05:15 AM

24/7 every night. if u need it, let me know.

I sure could use the money.

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Sagitta 09-07-2004 05:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dennisthemenace
Once you're dead you won't know. Therefore nothing to fear.


"How to cope"?

Think about something more useful.. Like making money.

I completely agree with what you've said.
Death is the permanent cessation of vital bodily functions; once there's no brain activity, pain (and stuff like that) just dont exist anymore.
Nothing to fear, you won´t feel a thing.

slackologist 09-07-2004 06:09 AM

Sure, it can be scary to think about.. it's something that is final and well beyond your control. It's natural to be concerned about your own death but worrying yourself senseless about it is a waste of what life you have left. Death is a release.. a final lasting peace. The best thing you can probably do to sooth your fear of death is to live a life you are proud of.

WickedVenus 09-07-2004 06:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AssHat
Not the act of dying, but death itself.
I've been doing a lot of thinking lately, and it's come to the point where the fear of death is inhibiting my everyday life.

How do you all cope with this?

Ok it sounds like your having anxiety attacks. Thats one of the major signs of anxiety. I have it too. I used to have it consistently everynight when I woudl go to bed. I then found out I was having anxiety attacks. Best thing to tdo is talk to a Dr and tell him whast going on and tell him your having anxiety attacks, They will prescribe something for you.

Nicky 09-07-2004 06:19 AM

I am not afraid to die, but I certainly dont want to!

OzMan 09-07-2004 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Living For Today
Living for today baby.


Living for today.

:thumbsup

It is amazing how much time and energy people waste by either worrying about the future or regretting the past. Hours and hours every day.

Live for today is a great attitiude.

Obviously not as in "Fuck it I might die tomorrow I'm gonna make my life a non stop party and who cares about tomorrow"

But live for today as in make the most of the time given to you and focus on what is in front of you :upsidedow

ezrydn 09-07-2004 12:47 PM

With 13 months as an Infantry RTO in Nam, I was too busy to think about dying. However, I've looked into the face of death and the dying on many occasions.

There's a great line in the movie "Spartacus." Tony Curtis asks Kirk Douglas, "Spartacus, are you afraid to die?" He replies, "No more than I was to be born." I've never forgotten that line.

Thirty days after 9/11, I had a heart attack that brought a 6-way bypass. Everyone thought I was crazy because I was in such a good mood at the hospital. Although I had brain activity via a heart/lung machine, my heart was stopped and outside of my chest for 8.5 hours.

So, am I afraid to die or afraid of death? Get in my face and find out! Oh, and that's not for the crew here. It's for any terrorists who may be perusing this forum (shame on you. You won't get your ten vestial virgins now!).

I would say that, what it boils down to is simply this: Do you know where you'll be 2 minutes after you quit breathing? I do. Do you?

boobmaster 09-07-2004 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Joe Citizen
Those who believe in an afterlife are those without the courage to live.

Religion is for suckers.

Some of the things I dislike the most about moronic atheists like YOU:

(1) They feel intellectually superior to those who have faith in a higher power.

(2) The NEVER miss an opportunity to shove their fucking OPINIONS down our throats.

I knew someone like you in grad school. Even the MENTION of the word 'God' would send him into a rant about how noone with REAL intelligence could possibly believe in any kind of God or afterlife. 'Religion is for suckers,' he would say (just like you).

One of our fellow grad students lost her mother suddenly. Normal people, when confronted with having to face a grieving friend, will try to offer support. I told her 'you mom is in a better place.' I made the mistake of saying that in front of my athiest friend, unfortunately, who couldn't resist the opportunity to shove his opinion down our throats yet again. 'No she isn't', he said, 'she's nowhere. She's in the ground. There's no afterlife or God.' Fucking heartless prick.

ALL YOU UNFEELING ATHIESTS CAN KISS MY ASS!

Basic_man 09-07-2004 06:20 PM

have fun now...and dont think about future

smit 09-07-2004 06:30 PM

i'm not afraid of dying, i'm afraid of not living.


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