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Unriz3n · 07-07-2001, 03:53 AM

Ok, I know some of you who chat on this board handle large amounts of traffic and have been selling per-sign up and recurring memberships to sites for years. I have about 25-30 freesites, most are listed on the major linklists and recieve a fair amount of traffic. I'm using ARS as my sponsor. Many of the freesites are listed here. http://www.adultclips.net/

Here are my ars stats since my last sale:
TOTAL 16541 16236 16236 1 1:16236 $35.00

Can anyone lend me a hand? Been steadily pluggin away at this biz and havent found results yet.

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CDSmith · 07-07-2001, 04:49 AM

I took a quick perusal of your links, and from what i can see you have talent, but I think your sites are overly-choked with the word "Free"

I get the feeling that your sites are catering to those looking for free stuff, so how would you expect to make much money? How is the 4free programs converting for you? Are these surfers really too cheap to enter their email addy and join a free program??

Why not start making a few sites that DON'T contain the keyword "free" so much, and start promoting some $1.95 trial programs, and some high-end premium sites too? Tell the surfers that you recommend these big sites because a) they contain literally YEARS-worth of high-quality porn, and B) they will never find such content in such quantity on any free site.

SELL!! Stop giving away free, and SELL! (I have to kick my own ass sometimes for trying to push the free shit too much when I should be SELLINGGGG!!!)

I've had good luck with maxcash.com, amateurpages.com, topcash.com (now topbucks.com), flashcash.com and stiffycash.com.

Latly I've added jennacash and thumbzillacasino, but I have yet to see how those will do (hopeful though). You may want to also check out the Oliver-Klozov link in my signature below, super super program run by a super super guy.

Also, if you want to make some steady income regardless of ratio, try some clickthru programs and blind link per-clicks. It's nice to know that even if you aren't getting signups every day that you're at least making some money every single day 24/7, right? I couldn't live without my click-thru cheques some months!

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Unriz3n · 07-07-2001, 04:56 AM

Well lately i've added a few freesites promoting j4f for the extra income. But the majority of the sites are promoting ARS. I'm talking about the small freesites listed on adultclips.net not the linklist itself

how do i get the small freesites to sell? When their first listed they send awesome clickthroughs to the sponsor, few thousand per site. I just cant figure out how to sell it to them.
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Theo · 07-07-2001, 05:00 AM

and then i'm sad with 1:1500 ratios!

CDSmith · 07-07-2001, 05:18 AM

I don't recall ever getting one signup on ARS, but I've only been an affiliate for a few months and haven't yet pushed them to the max.

But I think you might have missed some of my point, probably because I didn't say it right. I'll try again.....

Diversity has been a key factor in my network, both for types of content and types of sponsors. Promote 20 different sponsors, 100 different adult sites, on 1,000 different webpages, and network all of your pages together as you've been doing. Keep your surfers busy in your network until they do one of 3 things for you:
1) Join something by using their precious CC
2) Click on one of your "per-click" sponsors so you make a few cents.
3) Click a link to at least one of your trade sites so you register some hits to your trades.

It's a game for sure, but trying to milk your traffic for all it's worth without killing anyone or annoying the piss out of everyone is what it's all about.

I forgot to mention clickthrutraffic.com, I'm liking this program a lot so far, and am going to be pushing it more soon. 5 to 20 cents US per click, and you can use it on any type of site, not just adult. If you want to check out any of the sponsors I've mentioned, you can easily do so here: http://www.sunsetbeachbabes.com/webmasters.html Many of these sponsor's webmaster links are on this page.

Diversify, definitely. I'd rather have 20 different $30-to-$100 cheques every month than one single big cheque. Think of it...if that one company craps out on you for any reason, you and your business are insta-boned. If you have smaller cheques coming in from tons of sources, your business is much more stable for the long haul, according to my amazingly extensive knowledge

Good luck!
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BrettJ · 07-07-2001, 10:57 AM

Addin' to Cd's comments

unriz3n - you've spent a lot of time building a site that is broken down by niches. you have given yourself a great opportunity to target your advertising to match what the customer is most interested in.

in each category - you can add a niche sponsor to the full page ad, the paysite text link (with desc.), and the 468x20 banner below.

if you want help picking sponors for each of the categories... just let us know. I'm sure you'll get a pretty good response

Exxxotica · 07-07-2001, 12:28 PM

I think the most important would be to Start promoting niche specific programs like BretJ suggested.

My 2 cents, would be to redo your join4free pitch on your main page. It looks awful! It seems you are trying to market to the Budget conscious surfer. Forget that, porn is purchased on a whim because of testostroine (sp?). This isnt grocery shopping where people are looking for savings. They are looking for Porn! If they see somthing they want, and cant find elsewhere, they will pay for it. Whether it's a $1.95 trial, or $8.95 a minute

UnseenWorld · 07-07-2001, 07:28 PM

Gosh, I think most of my sponsors would want my head if http://www.girlsdotcom.com didn't convert better than 1:200 with halfway decent traffic. (Was that a spam I just did? NAH!)

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07-07-2001, 03:53 AM	#1
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	How do you sell your porn? Ok, I know some of you who chat on this board handle large amounts of traffic and have been selling per-sign up and recurring memberships to sites for years. I have about 25-30 freesites, most are listed on the major linklists and recieve a fair amount of traffic. I'm using ARS as my sponsor. Many of the freesites are listed here. http://www.adultclips.net/ Here are my ars stats since my last sale: TOTAL 16541 16236 16236 1 1:16236 $35.00 Can anyone lend me a hand? Been steadily pluggin away at this biz and havent found results yet. ------------------ Unriz3n AdultClips Links - Submit your freesites here! Galleries 4 Ever - No Recip Listings [email protected] ICQ - 108240203

07-07-2001, 04:49 AM	#2
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I took a quick perusal of your links, and from what i can see you have talent, but I think your sites are overly-choked with the word "Free" I get the feeling that your sites are catering to those looking for free stuff, so how would you expect to make much money? How is the 4free programs converting for you? Are these surfers really too cheap to enter their email addy and join a free program?? Why not start making a few sites that DON'T contain the keyword "free" so much, and start promoting some $1.95 trial programs, and some high-end premium sites too? Tell the surfers that you recommend these big sites because a) they contain literally YEARS-worth of high-quality porn, and B) they will never find such content in such quantity on any free site. SELL!! Stop giving away free, and SELL! (I have to kick my own ass sometimes for trying to push the free shit too much when I should be SELLINGGGG!!!) I've had good luck with maxcash.com, amateurpages.com, topcash.com (now topbucks.com), flashcash.com and stiffycash.com. Latly I've added jennacash and thumbzillacasino, but I have yet to see how those will do (hopeful though). You may want to also check out the Oliver-Klozov link in my signature below, super super program run by a super super guy. Also, if you want to make some steady income regardless of ratio, try some clickthru programs and blind link per-clicks. It's nice to know that even if you aren't getting signups every day that you're at least making some money every single day 24/7, right? I couldn't live without my click-thru cheques some months! <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">Oliver Klozov: 60% signups, 40% rebills</font></a> +High Quality free content, mthly $$ bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font>

07-07-2001, 04:56 AM	#3
Unriz3n Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2001 Posts: 378	Well lately i've added a few freesites promoting j4f for the extra income. But the majority of the sites are promoting ARS. I'm talking about the small freesites listed on adultclips.net not the linklist itself how do i get the small freesites to sell? When their first listed they send awesome clickthroughs to the sponsor, few thousand per site. I just cant figure out how to sell it to them. ------------------ Unriz3n AdultClips Links - Submit your freesites here! Galleries 4 Ever - No Recip Listings [email protected] ICQ - 108240203 [This message has been edited by Unriz3n (edited 07-07-2001).]

07-07-2001, 05:18 AM	#5
CDSmith Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Location: My network is hosted at TECHIEMEDIA.net ...Wait, you meant where am I located at? Oh... okay, I'm in Winnipeg, Canada. Oops. :) Posts: 51,460	I don't recall ever getting one signup on ARS, but I've only been an affiliate for a few months and haven't yet pushed them to the max. But I think you might have missed some of my point, probably because I didn't say it right. I'll try again..... Diversity has been a key factor in my network, both for types of content and types of sponsors. Promote 20 different sponsors, 100 different adult sites, on 1,000 different webpages, and network all of your pages together as you've been doing. Keep your surfers busy in your network until they do one of 3 things for you: 1) Join something by using their precious CC 2) Click on one of your "per-click" sponsors so you make a few cents. 3) Click a link to at least one of your trade sites so you register some hits to your trades. It's a game for sure, but trying to milk your traffic for all it's worth without killing anyone or annoying the piss out of everyone is what it's all about. I forgot to mention clickthrutraffic.com, I'm liking this program a lot so far, and am going to be pushing it more soon. 5 to 20 cents US per click, and you can use it on any type of site, not just adult. If you want to check out any of the sponsors I've mentioned, you can easily do so here: http://www.sunsetbeachbabes.com/webmasters.html Many of these sponsor's webmaster links are on this page. Diversify, definitely. I'd rather have 20 different $30-to-$100 cheques every month than one single big cheque. Think of it...if that one company craps out on you for any reason, you and your business are insta-boned. If you have smaller cheques coming in from tons of sources, your business is much more stable for the long haul, according to my amazingly extensive knowledge Good luck! <font face="Arial">___________ CD * <a href="http://www4.smutserver.com/babes/bgnetwork/submit.html" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#27FFFC">Babe Galleries Network</font></a> < -- submit galleries here * <a href="http://www.oliver-klozov.com/cgi-bin/refer.cgi?ref=cdsmithok" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#CBE6FF">Oliver Klozov: 60% signups, 40% rebills</font></a> +High Quality free content, mthly $$ bonuses * <a href="http://members.home.net/cyberdogs/Anti-Censorship%20Site/" TARGET="_blank"><font color="#FFCCCC">Sites Against Censorship</a><font color="#EDDDDD"> Support us, support your future</font></font> [This message has been edited by CDSmith (edited 07-07-2001).] [This message has been edited by CDSmith (edited 07-07-2001).]

07-07-2001, 05:00 AM	#4
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	and then i'm sad with 1:1500 ratios!

07-07-2001, 10:57 AM	#6
BrettJ ol' timer Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Seattle WA Posts: 4,715	Addin' to Cd's comments unriz3n - you've spent a lot of time building a site that is broken down by niches. you have given yourself a great opportunity to target your advertising to match what the customer is most interested in. in each category - you can add a niche sponsor to the full page ad, the paysite text link (with desc.), and the 468x20 banner below. if you want help picking sponors for each of the categories... just let us know. I'm sure you'll get a pretty good response

07-07-2001, 12:28 PM	#7
Exxxotica Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Oregun Posts: 4,396	I think the most important would be to Start promoting niche specific programs like BretJ suggested. My 2 cents, would be to redo your join4free pitch on your main page. It looks awful! It seems you are trying to market to the Budget conscious surfer. Forget that, porn is purchased on a whim because of testostroine (sp?). This isnt grocery shopping where people are looking for savings. They are looking for Porn! If they see somthing they want, and cant find elsewhere, they will pay for it. Whether it's a $1.95 trial, or $8.95 a minute

07-07-2001, 07:28 PM	#8
UnseenWorld Confirmed User Join Date: May 2001 Location: Portland, OR, USA Posts: 5,279	Gosh, I think most of my sponsors would want my head if http://www.girlsdotcom.com didn't convert better than 1:200 with halfway decent traffic. (Was that a spam I just did? NAH!) ------------------ Producer of truly original teen/young woman-oriented adult content at Wonders of the Unseen World