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Old 09-03-2004, 08:45 AM   #1
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Al Qaeda may have financed Russia school raid

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/L03410297.htm

Al Qaeda may have financed Russia school raid-TASS
03 Sep 2004 15:09:39 GMT

Source: Reuters

MOSCOW, Sept 3 (Reuters) - The mass hostage-taking at a Russian school was led by a senior Chechen rebel commander and possibly financed by al Qaeda, Itar-Tass news agency quoted sources in the regional security service as saying.

The sources said that according to early information, Chechen commander Magomet Yevloyev led the seizure of hundreds of children and adults in the school in the province of North Ossetia which ended in bloodshed on Friday.

They said the operation had been planned by Shamil Basayev, Russia's most wanted Chechen rebel, who has been behind several major attacks outside Chechnya.

Russian officials say rebels fighting for the region's independence from Moscow are under strong influence from Wahhabism, a strict form of Sunni Islam. Wahhabism, the only permitted form of Islam in Saudi Arabia, is banned in Russia. "Apart from that, there is information that the hostage seizure was financed by one of the ideologists of Wahhabism, Abu Omar As-Seyf, who is al Qaeda's representative in Chechnya," one source was quoted as saying.

Russian officials have suggested that other recent attacks in Russia, blamed on Chechen separatists, may also have been linked to al Qaeda.
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Old 09-03-2004, 08:51 AM   #2
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Al Qaeda is not a specific group but an umbrella of likeminded killers.
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Al Queda is always to blame, for something.
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this is funny.

blame al queda for everything

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I thought it was all the drugs I bought that was funding the terrorists
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why are all the kids coming out of there naked or nearly naked... wtf are they doing in there? or do russian kids just not wear clothes to school?

sad they stormed the place today & over 100 bodies in the gym...

u gotta be a pretty pussy terrorist to kill a bunch of kids...
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There are now reports 9 or 10 of the hostage takers was Arab looking.

Just telling the news as they come in don´t shoot the messenger.
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doober...you're a fucking idiot. There isn't a thing funny about this. My opinion has nothing to do whether or not there was a war, whether allah grants 72 virgins or whether aliens land.

This is a trajedy and it's heart breaking.

Grow up.


Dawgy...the latest. They were wearing next to nothing due to the heat within the gym where they were held.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmp...hool_seizure_8
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Al Qaeda may have financed Russia school raid-TASS
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MOSCOW, Sept 3 (Reuters) - The mass hostage-taking at a Russian school was led by a senior Chechen rebel commander and possibly financed by al Qaeda, Itar-Tass news agency quoted sources in the regional security service as saying.

The sources said that according to early information, Chechen commander Magomet Yevloyev led the seizure of hundreds of children and adults in the school in the province of North Ossetia which ended in bloodshed on Friday.

They said the operation had been planned by Shamil Basayev, Russia's most wanted Chechen rebel, who has been behind several major attacks outside Chechnya.

Russian officials say rebels fighting for the region's independence from Moscow are under strong influence from Wahhabism, a strict form of Sunni Islam. Wahhabism, the only permitted form of Islam in Saudi Arabia, is banned in Russia. "Apart from that, there is information that the hostage seizure was financed by one of the ideologists of Wahhabism, Abu Omar As-Seyf, who is al Qaeda's representative in Chechnya," one source was quoted as saying.

Russian officials have suggested that other recent attacks in Russia, blamed on Chechen separatists, may also have been linked to al Qaeda.
Do boubts they have.
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There are now reports 9 or 10 of the hostage takers was Arab looking.

Just telling the news as they come in don´t shoot the messenger.
Chenyans are Arabs? Wow. That is a blanket racist comment. Chenyans are ethnically related to Persians and Afghanis which are very different from Arabs.

Here is a pop quiz. Which is the largest Muslim population country on Earth and what is their ethnicity?
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If things don't go as planned, blame Al Qaeda.
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Chenyans are Arabs? Wow. That is a blanket racist comment. Chenyans are ethnically related to Persians and Afghanis which are very different from Arabs.
I don't believe he said that.

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There are now reports 9 or 10 of the hostage takers was Arab looking.
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See? Didn't think so.

He said the hostage takers were "arab looking".

That's a big difference.

Why the knee-jerk reaction?

Oh - and I think the largest muslim population is in Indonesia.
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what is there to finance?
16 rifles?
comeon simpleton for once turn away from fox news ok?
Rifles, explosives, transportation, planning and so on.
I would never watch FoxNews and I am about as Anti Bush and Anti Iraq as you can get so

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Chenyans are Arabs? Wow. That is a blanket racist comment. Chenyans are ethnically related to Persians and Afghanis which are very different from Arabs.

Here is a pop quiz. Which is the largest Muslim population country on Earth and what is their ethnicity?
No Chenyans are not Arabs that is what is scary about it. It was meant no way to be racist.

The country with the largest muslim population is Indonesia don´t know what their ethnicity are. asian?
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comeon simpleton for once turn away from fox news ok?
This came from Reuters.
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but i tthought al queda hated america? why pick on russian kids if they hate us?

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why are all the kids coming out of there naked or nearly naked... wtf are they doing in there? or do russian kids just not wear clothes to school?
They were undressed by "proud Chechen rebels". The saved kids also said that Chechen bastards were jeering on them

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sad they stormed the place today & over 100 bodies in the gym...
There was no storm. Russian SWAT opened a backfire on those terrorists who shoot on running chindren...

Accoring to the latest news. Chechen bastards have killed more than 300 hostages I'm really shocked...
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but i tthought al queda hated america? why pick on russian kids if they hate us?


Because Russia won´t let Chenya have it independence under a muslim regime.
Al Quada don´t only hate Americans they hate all non-muslims sorry but you are not special.
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Because Russia won´t let Chenya have it independence under a muslim regime.
Al Quada don´t only hate Americans they hate all non-muslims sorry but you are not special.
i wasnt saying "i" was, guess you missed my point.

i think the whole al queda thing is bullshit. especially this crap. here we are fed al queda hates america.

i dont watch fox or cnn so i dont believe half the shit people say around here.

just like ties with Saddam, osama IS Saddam now.

bullshit, i turn off the news
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What a load of shit, everyone knows we took care of Al Qaeda when we liberated Iraq!
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i wasnt saying "i" was, guess you missed my point.

i think the whole al queda thing is bullshit. especially this crap. here we are fed al queda hates america.

i dont watch fox or cnn so i dont believe half the shit people say around here.

just like ties with Saddam, osama IS Saddam now.

bullshit, i turn off the news
Mean it like a joke kind of. English is my first or second language so sometimes things don´t come out right.

It makes sense to me that they would be helped by Al Quada due to the nature of the conflict in Chechnya.

I don´t watch CNN or Fox either I prefer to get my news from sources that are a little more reliable.
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Mean it like a joke kind of. English is my first or second language so sometimes things don´t come out right.
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"Ten militants were killed in the violence, including nine Arabs, an aide to President Vladimir Putin said, according to the Interfax news agency."

"The Arab presence among the attackers would support Putin's contention that al-Qaida terrorists were involved in the Chechen conflict, where Muslim fighters have been fighting Russian forces in a brutal a war of independence for most of the past decade."
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well I blame them too
just dropped my coffee WHILE I was reading the posts

so in effect.. they are to blame cause they were involved in one way!! add THAT to their list
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why are all the kids coming out of there naked or nearly naked... wtf are they doing in there? or do russian kids just not wear clothes to school?

sad they stormed the place today & over 100 bodies in the gym...

u gotta be a pretty pussy terrorist to kill a bunch of kids...
Make someone undress and they're not likely to cause any trouble after that (Unless theyr porn stars I guess).

They learned from Abu Ghraib perhaps?
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Bullshit, also there is and was not much to finance in any way.

Al Qaeda = Islam fighting for the islam
Chechens = No religious motives but fighting for their own independent country.
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What the fuck is the difference?
It is not good if died innocent people!
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Bullshit, also there is and was not much to finance in any way.

Al Qaeda = Islam fighting for the islam
Chechens = No religious motives but fighting for their own independent country.
Go to the library and read up on #2
Then you´ll find out that the rebels fighting for independence are muslim fundamentalists.

A little advice before you start posting make sure its about something you know something about.
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Bullshit, also there is and was not much to finance in any way.

Al Qaeda = Islam fighting for the islam
Chechens = No religious motives but fighting for their own independent country.
You are just another victim of CNN... No comments

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What the fuck is the difference?
It is not good if died innocent people!
He is brainwashed so he don't understand obvious things. EVERYONE who commit a terrorist act is a TERRORIS but not a freedom fighter.
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but i tthought al queda hated america? why pick on russian kids if they hate us?

Sometimes your stupidity is amazing.

The Chechen rebels are muslims who are being oppressed by non-muslims (i.e., Russia)

Al Queda is against non-muslims, including Amereicans AND Russians. Bin Laden spent 10 years fighting the Russians in Afghanastan. He doesn't exactly LOVE them.
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Sometimes your stupidity is amazing.

The Chechen rebels are muslims who are being oppressed by non-muslims (i.e., Russia)

Al Queda is against non-muslims, including Amereicans AND Russians. Bin Laden spent 10 years fighting the Russians in Afghanastan. He doesn't exactly LOVE them.
Please just stop calling them rebels. Find a courage to say FUCKIN TERRORISTS.
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He is brainwashed so he don't understand obvious things.
whatever I'm not going to start some flame war about that because I don't really care, anyway:

I never said it is good that innocent people die.So many mass graves in chechenia with people who didn't do anything, same goes for russia and it doesn't seem to stop in the near future.

Al Qaeda doesn't have any relationships to them even if russia would like things to be that way because things would be easier to justify.

How far this all is really for independence and not for oil isn't to clear to me.
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DONT FUCK WITH THE RUSSIANS

they will just kill you

"yeah sorry 50 hostages died.. But we stoped the terrorists!"

remeber that opra house 2 years ago.. you can only push those ruskies so far before they say fuck it kill em all
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Any american in this thread crying over this should look around in their own backyard.

there are thousands of kids, homeless in the US turning to prostitution everyday no one of you gives a shit.

but let some terror shit go down on the other side of the planet and mom and dad are glued to the fucking tv screen.

get off your ass and do something for your own country and stop gawking at the terror in others.

fix your home first.

little girls digging through dumpsters for food selling their pussy.

http://abcnews.go.com/sections/us/Da...ade021213.html

this goes on everyday in the US and it barely makes the news.

people care so mucn about the KIDs, but they fail to help the ones they CAN
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DONT FUCK WITH THE RUSSIANS

they will just kill you

"yeah sorry 50 hostages died.. But we stoped the terrorists!"

remeber that opra house 2 years ago.. you can only push those ruskies so far before they say fuck it kill em all
What kind of shit did you smoke today? How many racists in Canada besides you?
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What kind of shit did you smoke today? How many racists in Canada besides you?
plenty.

Monstreal has a huge Hells Angels ring and even the KKK has presence in Canada.

imagine that.
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What kind of shit did you smoke today? How many racists in Canada besides you?
Racists?Russians are white, canadians too

It's just a fact that russians are none to fuck with and that they don't deal with terrorists.
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DONT FUCK WITH THE RUSSIANS

they will just kill you

"yeah sorry 50 hostages died.. But we stoped the terrorists!"

remeber that opra house 2 years ago.. you can only push those ruskies so far before they say fuck it kill em all
ya man i agree with u 100% the russians just dont give a fuck if 300 die and they save 10 they say its worth it, they dont like to fuck around,

and for all u idiots its not al qaeda its chechn rebels, no one funds chechnya, and al qaeda would never fuck with russia the russian would slaughter a few mill muslims overnight.
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Actually not only Russians are living in Russia. Russia is a multinational and multi-religion country. The captured children are not Russians. They are Ossetins. However lots of Russian SWAT fighters were killed when they tried to save these kids. We do not separate the people in Russia on Russia and non-Russian ones. BTW, I bet just a few years ago you thought that Chechens are Russians as well.
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Old 09-03-2004, 10:52 AM   #44
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ya man i agree with u 100% the russians just dont give a fuck if 300 die and they save 10 they say its worth it, they dont like to fuck around,

and for all u idiots its not al qaeda its chechn rebels, no one funds chechnya, and al qaeda would never fuck with russia the russian would slaughter a few mill muslims overnight.
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ya man i agree with u 100% the russians just dont give a fuck if 300 die and they save 10 they say its worth it, they dont like to fuck around,

and for all u idiots its not al qaeda its chechn rebels, no one funds chechnya, and al qaeda would never fuck with russia the russian would slaughter a few mill muslims overnight.

Yeah they really teached the Afghans a lesson from 79-88
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Actually not only Russians are living in Russia. Russia is a multinational and multi-religion country. The captured children are not Russians. They are Ossetins. However lots of Russian SWAT fighters were killed when they tried to save these kids. We do not separate the people in Russia on Russia and non-Russian ones. BTW, I bet just a few years ago you thought that Chechens are Russians as well.
WoW thanks for the demigraphics lesson.
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WoW thanks for the demigraphics lesson.
At least one Canadian will know a little bit more about the world around.
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Yeah they really teached the Afghans a lesson from 79-88
ya fuck em, the ruskies should have killed them all but the usa came in to help,

fuck all muslim countries, your oil belongs to the white man.

those people are animals, i wouldnt give a fuck if they used the schools as sewage plants.
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doober...you're a fucking idiot. There isn't a thing funny about this. My opinion has nothing to do whether or not there was a war, whether allah grants 72 virgins or whether aliens land.
there is something funny about how alqueda manages to be linked to every possible tragedy that meets the World News lol....there was a fly in my soup last nite....i think alqueda have infiltrated my kitchen an planted all sorts of mysterious insects in my kitchen including my soup! Those Bastards
Right.......

Al queda= terror
Terror=trigger word for all of the USA....thrown around like a loose 2 dollar hooker at every chance the media or politicans get.

and of course

Terror=Bad

Anything and everything after that, that actually gets some press is Al Quedas and Osama Bin Who's? Fault....


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This is a trajedy and it's heart breaking.
Tragedy? YES

Heartbreaking? Undeniably

Alqueda's Fault? I think not....
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50 RUSSIA TAKE OVER THE WORLD
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