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  • BradM
    Confirmed User
    • Dec 2003
    • 3397
    #1

    Jesus frickin christ <rant>

    Okay I have noticed one major difference in Adult from mainstream.
    Statistics. While in adult we have clicks, sales and conversions one thing we do NOT employ enough of is our own Cost per Click conversion.

    What I am talking about is:

    Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500 and send 500 clicks. Thus you made $35 per 500 clicks or, $0.035 per click.

    Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250 and send 500 clicks, you just made $40, or $0.04 per click.



    Now let me ask you a question. If you convert like this on a regular basis, you are earning MORE money per every click you send. So why would you simply promote a sponsor just because they pay more per sale?

    Sometimes adult has it completely backwards. Basing who you should and should not send traffic to solely based on who is paying more per signup is NOT the way to go.







    Just a reminder: We are converting 1:70 today. COUGH




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    Last edited by BradM; 09-03-2004, 02:30 PM.
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    • JSA Matt
      So Fucking Banned
      • Aug 2003
      • 5464
      #2
      Sponsor A pays $35 per signup. You convert 1:500
      Sponsor B pays $20 per signup. You convert 1:250

      I wonder why the ratios are better for sponsor B

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        • BradM
          Confirmed User
          • Dec 2003
          • 3397
          #3
          So when do I get to meet the infamous Matt?

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            • Sly_RJ
              Live Hard - Die Hard
              • Feb 2002
              • 17042
              #4
              No, that isn't an adult thing. Thats an idiot thing. If idiots want to continue pushing only the highest paying sponsors, so be it. Less competition for those with brains.
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                • BradM
                  Confirmed User
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 3397
                  #5
                  Originally posted by Sly_RJ
                  No, that isn't an adult thing. Thats an idiot thing. If idiots want to continue pushing only the highest paying sponsors, so be it. Less competition for those with brains.
                  Yeah but I guess that is what frustrates me. It seems like most people just jump around to the highest paying sponsor. Like if someone started paying $35.50 instead of 35 there would be an influx of bandwagon jumpers.

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                    • Manowar
                      jellyfish  
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 71528
                      #6
                      Originally posted by JSA Matt
                      I wonder why the ratios are better for sponsor B

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                        • woj
                          <&(©¿©)&>
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 47882
                          #7
                          Things are really much simpler than you stated... conversion ratios are irrevelant, so are amounts per sale, so are click-through ratios...

                          What matters is your bottom line ->
                          The sponsor that sends you the biggest check for the same number of banner impressions is the best
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                            • Tom_PMs
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jun 2004
                              • 2049
                              #8
                              In other words, who has acceptable ROI for YOUR traffic methods?

                              You must join yourself, you must send YOUR traffic, and you must analyze YOUR ROI!

                              Sure someone may get 1:40 ratios, but they may also be paying $1.00 per click and $400 a month hosting to get it.

                              Someone may get 1:1000 ratio's, but they may pay zero for hosting, zero for content, zero for traffic.

                              Now which is the better ratio?

                              Other peoples ratio info is useless

                              You've read it, you can't unread it.

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                                • CDSmith
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • May 2001
                                  • 51460
                                  #9
                                  I made a whopping $13 per signup with bangbus a few years ago.



                                  *cough*Made a grand killing on the rebills though. *cough*
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                                    • stocktrader23
                                      Let's do some business.
                                      • Jan 2003
                                      • 18781
                                      #10
                                      Originally posted by CDSmith
                                      I made a whopping $13 per signup with bangbus a few years ago.



                                      *cough*Made a grand killing on the rebills though. *cough*
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                                        • Darren
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Sep 2001
                                          • 5994
                                          #11
                                          Originally posted by BradM
                                          Yeah but I guess that is what frustrates me. It seems like most people just jump around to the highest paying sponsor. Like if someone started paying $35.50 instead of 35 there would be an influx of bandwagon jumpers.
                                          pretty much like yourself jumping around to the company which will pay you the highest


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                                            • BradM
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Dec 2003
                                              • 3397
                                              #12
                                              Originally posted by Darren
                                              pretty much like yourself jumping around to the company which will pay you the highest
                                              Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

                                              Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

                                              I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.

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                                                • Chris
                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                  • May 2003
                                                  • 27880
                                                  #13
                                                  Originally posted by BradM
                                                  Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

                                                  Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

                                                  I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.
                                                  Can I be there too ?

                                                  It will be a weener stretcher party
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                                                    • Darren
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                      • 5994
                                                      #14
                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                      Darren, come come now. I've been back and forth for awhile now. I have been looking for some job stability, something where I know I will be needed YEARS down the road. Looking for something that will be solid for me.

                                                      Also absolutely, I will go with who offers me more. I mean bottom line is, if you're living with your parents, and scraping by to buy food and clothing, chances are you're probably better off trying something new.

                                                      I will see you in Vegas, Darren so you can say all of this to my face and we can have a man-to-man chat. No board drama, no bullshit just sit down accross from each other at a table and you can speak your mind.
                                                      You sure will see me in vegas, which company will u be with?


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                                                        • Darren
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Sep 2001
                                                          • 5994
                                                          #15
                                                          Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                          Can I be there too ?

                                                          It will be a weener stretcher party
                                                          lol... think about that one chris... we could run our own seminar, 200 webmasters learning to use the device... the image in my head is hilarious!


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                                                            • BradM
                                                              Confirmed User
                                                              • Dec 2003
                                                              • 3397
                                                              #16
                                                              Originally posted by Darren
                                                              You sure will see me in vegas, which company will u be with?
                                                              I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

                                                              I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

                                                              However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

                                                              Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.

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                                                                • Chris
                                                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                  • May 2003
                                                                  • 27880
                                                                  #17
                                                                  Originally posted by Darren
                                                                  lol... think about that one chris... we could run our own seminar, 200 webmasters learning to use the device... the image in my head is hilarious!
                                                                  hahahaha


                                                                  Good stuff
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                                                                    • Chris
                                                                      Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                      • May 2003
                                                                      • 27880
                                                                      #18
                                                                      Originally posted by BradM
                                                                      I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

                                                                      I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

                                                                      However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

                                                                      Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.

                                                                      h8er

                                                                      you ignored my comment

                                                                      go tlak to your movie store tranny
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                                                                        • BradM
                                                                          Confirmed User
                                                                          • Dec 2003
                                                                          • 3397
                                                                          #19
                                                                          Originally posted by JupZChris
                                                                          Can I be there too ?

                                                                          It will be a weener stretcher party
                                                                          You're invited anywhere, you're my tranny sniffer. I need an expert there...

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                                                                            • Chris
                                                                              Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                              • May 2003
                                                                              • 27880
                                                                              #20
                                                                              come on darren

                                                                              brad is good people


                                                                              He isnt a canadian anymore either
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                                                                                • Darren
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Sep 2001
                                                                                  • 5994
                                                                                  #21
                                                                                  Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                  I don't see the need to continue this board trashing bullshit. You seem to have developed something for me recently, like a massive hardon.

                                                                                  I don't sling shit at you, and I would expect the same courtesy back.

                                                                                  However the bottom line is affiliates see how two professionals act in a situation, and it is up to them to make a deciscion on who they would rather send their traffic to.

                                                                                  Thankfully I don't need to trash talk the competition to get business.
                                                                                  im still trying to get my head around which "competitor" you work for now... why u so defensive, i thought board drama was your thing? my hardon is going flacid... live well and good luck, i would like nothing more than to see you pay a company back for the time they invest in you.


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                                                                                    • BradM
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Dec 2003
                                                                                      • 3397
                                                                                      #22
                                                                                      Originally posted by Darren
                                                                                      im still trying to get my head around which "competitor" you work for now... why u so defensive, i thought board drama was your thing? my hardon is going flacid... live well and good luck, i would like nothing more than to see you pay a company back for the time they invest in you.
                                                                                      I'm done replying to you.

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                                                                                        • fuzebox
                                                                                          making it rain
                                                                                          • Oct 2003
                                                                                          • 22352
                                                                                          #23
                                                                                          Drama!

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                                                                                            • Darren
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Sep 2001
                                                                                              • 5994
                                                                                              #24
                                                                                              Originally posted by BradM
                                                                                              I'm done replying to you.
                                                                                              so you replied to tell me that... okey dokey.


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                                                                                                • railz
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                                                                                                  • Nov 2001
                                                                                                  • 2531
                                                                                                  #25
                                                                                                  It's not that cut and dried for me, but I agree per click earning are important, but then you have to factor in your base cost for that click (especially if it's PPC traffic) and so on.

                                                                                                  I've always had an aversion to PPS programs anyway. Much rather get in on a good revshare.
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                                                                                                    • Darren
                                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                                      • Sep 2001
                                                                                                      • 5994
                                                                                                      #26
                                                                                                      Originally posted by railz
                                                                                                      It's not that cut and dried for me, but I agree per click earning are important, but then you have to factor in your base cost for that click (especially if it's PPC traffic) and so on.

                                                                                                      I've always had an aversion to PPS programs anyway. Much rather get in on a good revshare.
                                                                                                      railz still looking for advertising on pornresource ;)


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                                                                                                        • dready
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                                                                                                          • Oct 2002
                                                                                                          • 5247
                                                                                                          #27
                                                                                                          I have software that gives that info... I agree, it's a good stat to be aware of.
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