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Poll: Bush Leads by 11 Points

09-03-2004, 01:58 PM

http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=stor...ll_3&printer=1

WASHINGTON - President Bush (news - web sites) leads Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites), 52 percent to 41 percent, while independent Ralph Nader (news - web sites) got 3 percent in a national poll taken during the Republican National Convention that ended Thursday.

The Time magazine poll of 926 likely voters was taken Aug. 31-Sept 2, during the convention and has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus 4 percentage points.

Bush had 46 percent, Kerry had 44 percent and Nader 5 percent in a Time poll taken just before the convention.

Veteran pollsters say that polls taken during convention weeks should be viewed with caution because they are conducted at a point when public opinion is focused on only one party and a bounce in the numbers could be short-lived.

However, they also noted that polls taken during conventions can sometimes foreshadow a longer lasting bounce. Much of the poll was taken before President Bush's speech on Thursday night.

Bush leads Kerry in areas like handling terrorism, handling Iraq (news - web sites), and providing strong leadership. Bush and Kerry were about even on handling the economy, an improvement for Bush compared with other recent polls.

Kerry campaign aides questioned the size of the Bush lead and pointed to other national polls taken in recent days that show the race is close.

Bush campaign officials were not immediately available to comment.
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09-03-2004, 01:59 PM

I am seriously starting to get scared here...very, very scared.

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09-03-2004, 02:00 PM

So you people are gonna vote him in again right ??

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09-03-2004, 02:00 PM

Originally posted by Scott McD
So you people are gonna vote him in again right ??

Looks like he's going to win again.
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09-03-2004, 02:02 PM

"The Time magazine poll of 926 likely voters"

My poll of 1 likely voter had Kerry leading 100%.

Nuff said.

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09-03-2004, 02:05 PM

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09-03-2004, 02:06 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23
"The Time magazine poll of 926 likely voters"

My poll of 1 likely voter had Kerry leading 100%.

Nuff said.

Honestly how many times have you checked more th an 2 of these things and gotten the same numbers? Remeber when Bush got in the first time he was behind and then all of a sudden.

*Fox news report*

This just in, we are sorry there was a mistake, BUSH is in the lead, we report we made a mistake, Bush is in the lead

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09-03-2004, 02:10 PM

Originally posted by stocktrader23
"The Time magazine poll of 926 likely voters"

My poll of 1 likely voter had Kerry leading 100%.

Nuff said.

same here...

...every Republican I know that voted for Bush last time is NOT voting for him this time...

only about a half dozen people, but they all told me they know more holding the same views...

I watched the convetion to see if Bush could win back some votes, and his fear sales didn't work on me and I doubt it worked on those that I mentioned...

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09-03-2004, 02:32 PM

polls are worthless in this election. If you polled people in california bush is getting his ass handed to him. If you polled people in texas kerry is getted destroyed. Remeber in the last election gore got 2million more votes than bush and lost. Polls are pretty much useless, especially when they come on the eve of a convention. In 3 weeks the networks will have thier new fall shows out and everyone will go back to watching TV and forget all about the convention and the polls will reflect that. What matters is individual polls in states that are battleground states not a nationwide poll.
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09-03-2004, 02:41 PM

It's possible in this election for Kerry and Bush to each get 269 electoral votes. That means the Senate decides who is president, and the House decides who is VP.

Bush - Edwards, thats the ticket in case of a tie, lmfao!!

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09-03-2004, 03:52 PM

Polls during and immediately after ( within a week ) of EITHER convention are meaningless.. It's called a convention bump, that's all.. Give it a week or two, and numbers will come back down to earth..

Bush may still be ahead, but the numbers will come down...
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09-06-2004, 04:29 PM

good ol' bush
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09-06-2004, 04:38 PM

Originally posted by NoCarrier
Looks like he's going to win again.

Nope..not at all!

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=857

"President George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney have taken a two point lead over Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and North Carolina Senator John Edwards (46%-44%), according to a new Zogby America poll. The telephone poll of 1001 likely voters was conducted from Monday through Thursday (August 30-September 2, 2004) during the Republican National Convention in New York City. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.2."
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09-06-2004, 04:44 PM

Originally posted by Centurion
Nope..not at all!

http://www.zogby.com/news/ReadNews.dbm?ID=857

"President George W. Bush and Vice-President Dick Cheney have taken a two point lead over Massachusetts Senator John Kerry and North Carolina Senator John Edwards (46%-44%), according to a new Zogby America poll. The telephone poll of 1001 likely voters was conducted from Monday through Thursday (August 30-September 2, 2004) during the Republican National Convention in New York City. Overall results have a margin of sampling error of +/-3.2."

I'll admit I don't understand statistics, but I don't understand how a poll with a sample size of only 1001 people can show a margin of error of 3% when you are talking about the entire country.
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09-06-2004, 04:55 PM

i see dead people. bloody bush

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09-06-2004, 05:05 PM

Originally posted by jade_dragon

*Fox news report*

This just in, we are sorry there was a mistake, BUSH is in the lead, we report we made a mistake, Bush is in the lead

Exactly.

You need to ask yourself -- Who owns Time Magazine and who do you think they want to win?

Where are the polls taking place?... they say "National" but are they intentionally polling upper-middle to upper class individuals?

Polls are BS... they manipulate them and throw them out there to try to hook the undecided by saying "Look who's in the lead! You don't want to vote for a loser do ya? Vote Bush & vote for a winner!"

Trusting in the accuracy of a political poll conducted by AOL/Time Warner is about as intelligent as letting a guy who said "We're going to give Ohio to Bush" the authority to control the lionshare of the electronic voting machines across the country.

- Which btw, they get smacked down in Ohio last I heard - no electronic voting machines will be used there.

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09-06-2004, 05:27 PM

Someone in my family yesterday told me about these polls... basically they said....

(She is a closet bush supporter)

Her:
"Looks like Bush is going to win again... they just said he's up in the polls by 10 points. He really shouldn't have talked so much about Vietnam - that's what killed him

now... knowing that this person is near-addicted to FoxNews and couldn't have an independent logical thought if her life depended on it.... I had to ask....

Me:
"Who is they? Fox?

Her:
"(smile).. umm yeah, but it's a POLL goBigtime... you can't fake A POLL

Me:
"I'm pretty sure we're not really related. You also mentioned that he 'talked to much about Vietnam?.. that is your opinion? Or did Fox drill that into your head as well?"

Her:
"Well... it's my idea, but they agreed with me too."

Me:
"So when someone is slinging shit at you all day long about your service record - you're not supposed to defend yourself?"

Her:
"Bush has a nice nose and good hair. "

Me:
"I hope you are as resistant to nuclear fallout as you are truth and logic... because other countries out there are only going to put up with this shit for so long.

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09-06-2004, 05:34 PM

The you CAN't fake a pool part is so gay ...

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09-06-2004, 05:41 PM

Originally posted by evildick
I'll admit I don't understand statistics, but I don't understand how a poll with a sample size of only 1001 people can show a margin of error of 3% when you are talking about the entire country.

Yeah..I know what you mean..but that seems to be the # they do for most polls...around 1000 or so.
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09-06-2004, 06:59 PM

Can even the Bush lovers feel safe if he takes another term?

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09-06-2004, 07:43 PM

People denying the obvious is funny. It amuses me.

Yeah, it's all smoke and mirrors.

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