Verotel vs. CCBill - GoFuckYourself.com

Mr. Marks · 09-03-2004, 12:14 AM

What's your choice and Why?

DickShoke · 09-03-2004, 12:25 AM

Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

easy backend administrative interface is the reason

are two reasons....

reynold · 09-03-2004, 12:26 AM

neither

EviLGuY · 09-03-2004, 12:26 AM

No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.

Mr. Marks · 09-03-2004, 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DickShoke
Both are good..but if i had to chose only one it would be CCBill....

easy backend administrative interface is the reason

are two reasons....

Does their system accommodate Build Your Own Tour type systems?

WWC · 09-03-2004, 12:28 AM

CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software

Mr. Marks · 09-03-2004, 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by AdultLoungeRaffi
CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software

Damn good reason, actually.

Hentaikid · 09-03-2004, 05:58 AM

I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...

Royal Cash · 09-03-2004, 07:40 AM

ccbill of course!

strobi · 09-03-2004, 09:14 AM

Alot of people report better ratios with verotel. Never used them thought.

Shoplifter · 09-03-2004, 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Hentaikid
I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...

CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.

chupacabra · 09-03-2004, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Shoplifter
CCBill sells really well but Verotel is goin through a mad conversion phase.

All those newbs who think PPS is the way to go should try a Verotel program for high conversions and best of all long term retention and stability. Try my sig if you like to rebill.

have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!

mrgica · 09-03-2004, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by chupacabra
have to second that, Verotel has been kicking ass and taking names lately... this week in particular was just killer, 1hr 3min left for the weekly pay period..!

funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales.

Strange?!?

chupacabra · 09-03-2004, 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
funny that you say that cause this week was a record for me, most sales.
Strange?!?

i know, looking back at this same week for the last couple of years i can affirm this is a record week for new sales as well at my end, very pleased w/ this weeks numbers across the board..!

gxer · 09-03-2004, 04:43 PM

Verotel Rocks

axelcat · 09-03-2004, 04:43 PM

ccbill

Dailydiapers · 09-04-2004, 07:43 PM

Ever since the pro/ticketsclub split my Veortel sales have been steadily growing. They just needed some of the dead-weight off their payment gateway.

Veterans Day · 09-04-2004, 07:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EviLGuY
No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.

People been sayin verotel is gonna die for years now

Verotel does convert 2:1 over ccbill in my experiences

Dirty Dane · 09-04-2004, 09:49 PM

After Verotel blew off majority of the affiliates 5 months ago, the way they did it, and not even responded on the emails they said we should send if we felt that was an error, I trust them 0 %. I will NEVER NEVER NEVER promote a verotel program again!

Wonder if we get our 6-months "holdbacks" paid out in october? Doubt so....
...and all webmaster I'm in contact with, also newbies, I tell them to stay away.

fr8 · 09-04-2004, 11:49 PM

Verotel is one way to save money. Havnt used them though.

spooky181 · 09-05-2004, 03:31 AM

I have used both and Verotel wins by a country mile...

twist · 09-05-2004, 03:55 AM

I can't believe someone says Verotel after what they did some months ago. They promoted underage shit and once they paniced they shut down affiliated for no reason.

body · 09-05-2004, 04:51 AM

Ibill

lock · 09-05-2004, 06:13 AM

With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.

gxer · 09-05-2004, 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by lock
With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere
http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/

However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible.

Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

polish_aristocrat · 09-05-2004, 08:51 AM

Verotel - people say it converts better, but CCbill has a better reputation.

justsexxx · 09-05-2004, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

Andre

rowan · 09-05-2004, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

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The requested URL /webmasters.html was not found on this server.
Apache/2.0.46 (Red Hat) Server at www.modelsinlove.com Port 80

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Manowar · 09-05-2004, 09:21 AM

CCBill

Sausage · 09-05-2004, 09:36 AM

Verotel hands down.

I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!

CCBill has affiliate tracking problems, and scrubs too hard.

Epoch is also good if you don't need email support quicker than 2-3 weeks and have a programmer who can make up a front end and decypher their rather cryptic setup.

rowan · 09-05-2004, 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sausage
Verotel hands down.

I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months!

Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio.

join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
signup page = I want to enter my card details

EscortDate_Enoj · 09-05-2004, 09:43 AM

We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

They also have great support and always respond quickly.

However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.

Sausage · 09-05-2004, 10:02 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
Just want to correct you there: it's not actually a join page ratio, it's a signup form ratio.

join page = I'm reading your sales pitch
signup page = I want to enter my card details

I stand corrected rowan

But i would say signup page = "I want to either enter my credit card info, or I want to try to see if I can get in without it" ;)

Compared to my 1:38 CCbill join page (click through to the join page) ratio, I think thats still pretty damn good !

Ty W · 09-06-2004, 11:23 AM

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* Fast Setup and Low Rates
* Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers
* Real-Time Reports on Transactions
* Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit
* One-Time & Recurring Transactions
* Professional front and back-end Interface
* Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports
* Free technical support
* Affiliate Tracking Program
* Customized Join Pages
* Customized Emails
* Cascade Billing
* Password - Membership Management
* Discreet Billing Descriptor
* Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA.

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Kicker · 09-06-2004, 11:36 AM

CCbill

mrgica · 09-06-2004, 11:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
Go to Modelsinlove.com and check webmasters-->
Marketing Tolls section. And see how the hosteds was implemented there.

It's simple to make a links for hosteds within 5 mins.

Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

Shoplifter · 09-06-2004, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

You can do this with SSI very quickly. All ithas to do is pass the reseller ID to the page. php is not required at all.

HarlotCash Dyker · 09-06-2004, 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by EscortDate_Enoj
We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them.

They also have great support and always respond quickly.

However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password.

It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement.

I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them.

Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller.

They have good support?

No they do not - Their staff are simply not trained to do their jobs properly -
I used them for back up on a smaller site to try them out. I was actually thinking of moving everything over to them - I had a problem and lost their details and emailed them (using the same email) The guy asked for proof - So I gave him our cc number we used when signing up - (Right - now he has our cc number and can verify our email address)
Not enough - We get canned and lose our cash - Then we are told they didn't know the system and they only needed the email verification -
Bunch of amateurs

gxer · 09-06-2004, 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by rowan
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Yep, fixed now.

gxer · 09-06-2004, 01:57 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by justsexxx
http://links.verotel.com/cgi-bin/sho...34567891234567

Is this because the ID I entered is fake/wrong or?

Andre

Yes, because of fake ID.
It will work only with ID of real reseller.

gxer · 09-06-2004, 04:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrgica
Nice job there! Im know nothing about php.
So I must ask you what kind of script do you use for this?
It must be simple?!?

let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example

Shoplifter · 09-06-2004, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by gxer
let me know if you need help with this, i'll give you code example

Can you hit me on ICQ?

17249164

frish · 09-06-2004, 04:53 PM

CCBill

09-03-2004, 12:14 AM	#1
Mr. Marks Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Wherever I want Posts: 7,517	Verotel vs. CCBill What's your choice and Why?

09-03-2004, 12:25 AM	#2
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09-03-2004, 12:28 AM	#6
WWC #1 Adult Content Provider Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Glendale, Ca Posts: 11,577	CCbill....someone i know was processing with them and they kept all their funds and they are offshore....i just dont trust any processor offshore.... and besides at www.AdultLounge.com we use CCBill as secondary processor in our cascading software __________________ [email protected] ICQ : 494-353-230 Follow WWC on Twitter CLICK HERE! " CONTENT PROVIDER OF THE YEAR! " ~ 2007 , 2008 & 2009 XBIZ AWARDS WINNER! .......www.WorldWideContent.com / www.WorldWideFeeds.com...... WWC Nominated " Content Licensor of The Year " 2010 XBiz Awards !!!

09-04-2004, 07:43 PM	#17
Dailydiapers Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: USA Posts: 1,079	Ever since the pro/ticketsclub split my Veortel sales have been steadily growing. They just needed some of the dead-weight off their payment gateway. __________________ Mike http://www.dailydiapers.com/

09-04-2004, 11:49 PM	#20
fr8 Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 5,074	Verotel is one way to save money. Havnt used them though. __________________ █ joesmut (a) gmail Dot com █ Full Stack Developer

09-03-2004, 12:26 AM	#3
reynold Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Global Traveler Posts: 51,271	neither

09-03-2004, 12:26 AM	#4
EviLGuY So Fucking Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: malta Posts: 12,745	No contest.. CCBill.. at least with them you know you have a decent chance of them not going under in the near future.

09-03-2004, 05:58 AM	#8
Hentaikid Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 1,249	I checked my ratios and one site I promote with verotel, at 7.5$ per signup has made me as much money as all the ccbill sites I promote put together...

09-03-2004, 07:40 AM	#9
Royal Cash Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Royal-Cash Posts: 1,739	ccbill of course!

09-03-2004, 09:14 AM	#10
strobi Confirmed User Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Belgium Posts: 7,383	Alot of people report better ratios with verotel. Never used them thought.

09-03-2004, 04:43 PM	#15
gxer Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Location Posts: 846	Verotel Rocks

09-03-2004, 04:43 PM	#16
axelcat Adult Locals Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: West Coast Posts: 25,450	ccbill

09-04-2004, 09:49 PM	#19
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	After Verotel blew off majority of the affiliates 5 months ago, the way they did it, and not even responded on the emails they said we should send if we felt that was an error, I trust them 0 %. I will NEVER NEVER NEVER promote a verotel program again! Wonder if we get our 6-months "holdbacks" paid out in october? Doubt so.... ...and all webmaster I'm in contact with, also newbies, I tell them to stay away.

09-05-2004, 03:31 AM	#21
spooky181 Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: back of beyond Posts: 2,951	I have used both and Verotel wins by a country mile...

09-05-2004, 03:55 AM	#22
twist Confirmed User Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 415	I can't believe someone says Verotel after what they did some months ago. They promoted underage shit and once they paniced they shut down affiliated for no reason.

09-05-2004, 04:51 AM	#23
body Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 5,012	Ibill __________________ The Goddess Of Steps

09-05-2004, 06:13 AM	#24
lock Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Australia Posts: 5,065	With ccbill you can have hosted galleries where the webmasters can link into the site anywhere http://refer.ccbill.com/cgi-bin/clic...tlingcom/tour/ However with verotel you need to use a banner code to link and direct linking to hosted galleries is not possible. __________________ Traffic.Tools - 40+ Free Tools Free.Marketing - 150+ Free Tools Submission.Tools - 20+ Free Tools

09-05-2004, 08:51 AM	#26
polish_aristocrat Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 40,377	Verotel - people say it converts better, but CCbill has a better reputation. __________________ I don't use ICQ anymore.

09-05-2004, 09:21 AM	#29
Manowar jellyfish Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 71,528	CCBill

09-05-2004, 09:36 AM	#30
Sausage Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Australia Posts: 3,012	Verotel hands down. I get 3 times the sales with Verotel when I ran them and CCBill next to eachother for a few hundred joins same traffic. That and their wire is always sent on time and arrives in my account that same day. Getting 1:8 ratios on the join page for the last 3 months! CCBill has affiliate tracking problems, and scrubs too hard. Epoch is also good if you don't need email support quicker than 2-3 weeks and have a programmer who can make up a front end and decypher their rather cryptic setup.

09-05-2004, 09:43 AM	#32
EscortDate_Enoj Registered User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Norway Posts: 87	We've used Verotel as our main processor for a while and we are very satisfied with them. They also have great support and always respond quickly. However, they have some quite limited services. For example, if you want to have different membership types for the same webpage (say regular membership and VIP membership), you would need to modify the PERL script (verotelrum.pl on our server which is used by Verotel to manage the password file(s)) manually, and make it write "subscription name" in addition to username and encrypted password. It's doable, but not good nor easy to implement. I don't know how CCBill handles such features, so I can't compare them. Also, since we are located in Norway we prefer a european biller. Last edited by EscortDate_Enoj; 09-05-2004 at 09:44 AM..

09-06-2004, 11:23 AM	#34
Ty W Registered User Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 47	You guys should also consider eCommerceGlobal.com. Our company. www.eCommerceGlobal.com, provides THIRD PARTY CREDIT CARD PROCESSING for ADULT MERCHANTS: * Fast Setup and Low Rates * Live Client Support and Live Support for your Customers * Real-Time Reports on Transactions * Settlement by Wire Transfers / Direct Deposit * One-Time & Recurring Transactions * Professional front and back-end Interface * Fraud Scrubbing & Complete Transaction Reports * Free technical support * Affiliate Tracking Program * Customized Join Pages * Customized Emails * Cascade Billing * Password - Membership Management * Discreet Billing Descriptor * Offshore processing, with sales / support office in Seattle, WA. TO LEARN MORE AND GET STARTED: http://www.eCommerceGlobal.com/cgi-bin/click.cgi?id=5 Feel free to contact me if I can be of any further assistance, Ty W 206-424-9134 www.eCommerceGlobal.com [email protected] ICQ # 209963807 __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60. Let me repeat... A 120 x 60 button and no more that 3 lines of DEFAULT SIZE AND COLOR text.

09-06-2004, 11:36 AM	#35
Kicker Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TakeBucks.com - Porn Star Academy Posts: 7,040	CCbill __________________ TakeBucks.com and Real-Bucks.com *65% \| $30 PPS \| 10% referral!!!* TryAnalFisting.com - ratio is 1:85. No joke! ========================= Alex Affiliate Manager support@takebucks_dot_com

09-06-2004, 04:53 PM	#43
frish Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Luxembourg Posts: 335	CCBill __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.