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Old 09-02-2004, 09:19 PM   #1
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Kerry Responds...........

he's really digging into Bush...........and he's fighting back finally......

I want Bush to be defeated but I have to admit, as a political junkie, the RNC was far more effective than the Democratic Convention............far more emotional and effective at getting the Repub base excited to go out and vote

Kerry has to continue to fight back, especially at this swiftboat bullshit. We need a fighter and I hope to hell we've got one. After all, if Bush is re-elected, he'll be appointing new Supreme Court judges. If you thought COPA and 2257 are bad, you will be shitting your pants at what is to come with more neo-conservative SC justices.

Keep your eyes on the prize and your heads in the game and vote Democrat.
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Old 09-02-2004, 09:24 PM   #2
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Bush or Kerry will have identical policies whoever is elected.. don't fool yourself thinking it makes a difference who wins.
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Bush or Kerry will have identical policies whoever is elected.. don't fool yourself thinking it makes a difference who wins.
with all due respect, its you who is fooling himself............if you think Kerry would appoint the same SC Justices as Bush would, you are on glue.

Remember COPA? That was shot down by the SC a few months ago by only a 5-4 margin! Imagine if they upheld it? The ramifications to this industry?

We need a Liberal Democrat in there right now for OUR OWN PROTECTION. Don't you get it?
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I dozed off during Kerrys response..
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The Republicans really went after Kerry at the RNC, i still think that Kerry has this one won, but i don't want to speak too early and jynx him.
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The Republicans really went after Kerry at the RNC, i still think that Kerry has this one won, but i don't want to speak too early and jynx him.
the Dems should've went after Bush just as hard..........they are only starting to now, thus they only had a temporary 4-5 pt bounce in the polls that has since evaporated..........its all about getting your votes out now........who gets their ppl motivated more to go out and vote will win and the Repubs capitalized on this by Kerry-bashing to fire up their electorate

watch for Kerry to turn up the rhethoric in response...........

now if the Repubs get anything past a 7 pt. bounce for their convention, and god forbid a 10 pt. bounce, the Dems are in for an uphill battle..........if its only 4-5 pts, the game is on.........
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thwe 7 days leading up to the election is what matters next week people will forget every fuckin speech just like they did a week after the dem convention
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the Dems should've went after Bush just as hard..........they are only starting to now, thus they only had a temporary 4-5 pt bounce in the polls that has since evaporated..........its all about getting your votes out now........who gets their ppl motivated more to go out and vote will win and the Repubs capitalized on this by Kerry-bashing to fire up their electorate

watch for Kerry to turn up the rhethoric in response...........

now if the Repubs get anything past a 7 pt. bounce for their convention, and god forbid a 10 pt. bounce, the Dems are in for an uphill battle..........if its only 4-5 pts, the game is on.........
You made some very good points. And Dan Rather and other CBS reporters ALL were saying that Kerry was going to go into "attack mode" (from the info they had received) and that the next 60 days would probably be one of the nastiest campaigns ever.
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Regardless of whether you think it makes a difference or not who is in office... If Bush is re-selected, you can COUNT on there being a more conservative supreme court. Sure in the grand scheme of things thinking about the supreme court is pretty narrow, selfish even if only thinking about the good and welfare of the adult industry, but make no mistake... within due time there will be at least one more asshole Scalia type swaying those 5-4 votes in the other direction.
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You made some very good points. And Dan Rather and other CBS reporters ALL were saying that Kerry was going to go into "attack mode" (from the info they had received) and that the next 60 days would probably be one of the nastiest campaigns ever.
lets fuckin' hope he attacks back...........i'm sick and tired of hearing ppl attack him who didn't even serve and got out of it, Cheney 5 TIMES! Kerry had fuckin' bullets flying at him while Cheney went to school for fucks sakes.
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with all due respect, its you who is fooling himself............if you think Kerry would appoint the same SC Justices as Bush would, you are on glue.

Remember COPA? That was shot down by the SC a few months ago by only a 5-4 margin! Imagine if they upheld it? The ramifications to this industry?

We need a Liberal Democrat in there right now for OUR OWN PROTECTION. Don't you get it?


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with all due respect, its you who is fooling himself............if you think Kerry would appoint the same SC Justices as Bush would, you are on glue.

Remember COPA? That was shot down by the SC a few months ago by only a 5-4 margin! Imagine if they upheld it? The ramifications to this industry?

We need a Liberal Democrat in there right now for OUR OWN PROTECTION. Don't you get it?
are you on glue? COPA would be great
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Regardless of whether you think it makes a difference or not who is in office... If Bush is re-selected, you can COUNT on there being a more conservative supreme court. Sure in the grand scheme of things thinking about the supreme court is pretty narrow, selfish even if only thinking about the good and welfare of the adult industry, but make no mistake... within due time there will be at least one more asshole Scalia type swaying those 5-4 votes in the other direction.
Thats my whole point. We have to think in terms of our self-interest and self-preservation in this industry. Study your history. Our industry has always been harrassed but less so, by far, by Dems than Repubs. Bush wields the bible recklessly and has his fucking lapdog, John Asshead, go after us with bogus 2257's or COPA's. To flourish and survive, we need at this time a Liberal leaning Democrat who actually respects the first amendment, even if it means protecting us, the so-called "pornographer scum". Some ppl on this board who don't get these simple facts are living in a dangerous fantasy world.
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lets fuckin' hope he attacks back...........i'm sick and tired of hearing ppl attack him who didn't even serve and got out of it, Cheney 5 TIMES! Kerry had fuckin' bullets flying at him while Cheney went to school for fucks sakes.
with all due rspect, I think Cheney was too old to go to Nam
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with all due rspect, I think Cheney was too old to go to Nam
bullshit.

he deferred 5 times. he was not too old.
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Bush or Kerry will have identical policies whoever is elected.. don't fool yourself thinking it makes a difference who wins.
Bullshit.
Kerry will make a great President, his policies wont be the same.

I seriously doubt Kerry will appoint the same judges Team Bush would!
I seriously doubt Kerry will start more unnecessary wars.

I seriously doubt kerry will tell Nato to go fuck them selves.
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bullshit.

he deferred 5 times. he was not too old.
born in 1941 - our first involvement in Nam was around 1965 - that would make him 24 at the very beginning when all we had were advisors

You have something to back your assertion? Not saying you are wrong, just saying this is news to me
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he's really digging into Bush...........and he's fighting back finally......

I want Bush to be defeated but I have to admit, as a political junkie, the RNC was far more effective than the Democratic Convention............far more emotional and effective at getting the Repub base excited to go out and vote

Kerry has to continue to fight back, especially at this swiftboat bullshit. We need a fighter and I hope to hell we've got one. After all, if Bush is re-elected, he'll be appointing new Supreme Court judges. If you thought COPA and 2257 are bad, you will be shitting your pants at what is to come with more neo-conservative SC justices.

Keep your eyes on the prize and your heads in the game and vote Democrat.
I disagree with you. The Democrats had just as good of a convention in terms of strategy. They were able to set the tone and to set boundaries that the Republicans look very bad for crossing, and as you see Bush will not cross them as you see with the 527 ads against Kerry, Bush wont touch them either way.

Another thing is 2 weeks from now nobody will even remember the speech Bush gave tonight or the speech AH'nold gave or the speech Zelly gave. And the same reason why people will forget is the same reason you believe the RNC was better than the DNC. People forget the moment and get caught up in the next.

Remember all of the hope the DNC inspired and the sudden rush of change filling the air and the feeling that we could take our country back. I still have that feeling, even watching the RNC I still have that feeling, it has not gone away. I am very hopeful and the DNC instilled that in me, and the RNC never even for a second took it away.

So to me, no the DNC was better than or equal to the RNC, not the other way around.

Plus the DNC was not greeted and interupted by mass amounts of protestors every 5 seconds.
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Bullshit.
Kerry will make a great President, his policies wont be the same.

I seriously doubt Kerry will appoint the same judges Team Bush would!
I seriously doubt Kerry will start more unnecessary wars.

I seriously doubt kerry will tell Nato to go fuck them selves.
why would Kerry make a great president? because he would consult with the UN before he did anything with regards to our national security?

Fuck him. He is not qualified . . . while I may not like Bush, Kerry is NOT the answer . . . not even close.

Blame the Democrats for nominating him
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I seriously doubt kerry will tell Nato to go fuck them selves.
precisely why he is not qualified
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Plus the DNC was not greeted and interupted by mass amounts of protestors every 5 seconds.
protests? fuck, that was a weak excuse for a protest.

Try Chicago in 1968 . . . now that was a protest
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born in 1941 - our first involvement in Nam was around 1965 - that would make him 24 at the very beginning when all we had were advisors

You have something to back your assertion? Not saying you are wrong, just saying this is news to me
its very old news.............its public record and there are tons of articles abounding about this subject floating around, in newspapers etc etc

he deferred............kerry went

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precisely why he is not qualified
Why? I thought the US wanted allies. Or is it world domination??
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Thats my whole point. We have to think in terms of our self-interest and self-preservation in this industry. Study your history. Our industry has always been harrassed but less so, by far, by Dems than Repubs. Bush wields the bible recklessly and has his fucking lapdog, John Asshead, go after us with bogus 2257's or COPA's. To flourish and survive, we need at this time a Liberal leaning Democrat who actually respects the first amendment, even if it means protecting us, the so-called "pornographer scum". Some ppl on this board who don't get these simple facts are living in a dangerous fantasy world.
Thank you , I agree you with a bunch of people better wake the fuck up.
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Yep, I agree!!

Kerry is not the answer.

He is a flip flopping fag
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its very old news.............its public record and there are tons of articles abounding about this subject floating around, in newspapers etc etc

he deferred............kerry went

fact.
know what, I could care less about that. . . . and as far as Kerry going, fuck him. When he returned he testified that everyone over in Nam was a war criminal.

That, in of itself tells me he is not qualified to be Commander in Chief of our Armed Forces.

It is one thing to testify and/or protest his involvement, but to say everyone was a war criminal was unacceptable. Fuck him.
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Why? I thought the US wanted allies. Or is it world domination??
We are not going to ask permission oif France (or Canada) when it comes to national security.
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...When he returned he testified that everyone over in Nam was a war criminal...

...It is one thing to testify and/or protest his involvement, but to say everyone was a war criminal was unacceptable. Fuck him.
He didn't say everyone was a war criminal. He said this:

Winter soldier Investigation:

"I would like to talk, representing all those veterans, and say that several months ago in Detroit, we had an investigation at which over 150 honorably discharged and many very highly decorated veterans testified to war crimes committed in Southeast Asia, not isolated incidents but crimes committed on a day-to-day basis with the full awareness of officers at all levels of command.

It is impossible to describe to you exactly what did happen in Detroit, the emotions in the room, the feelings of the men who were reliving their experiences in Vietnam, but they did. They relived the absolute horror of what this country, in a sense, made them do.

They told the stories at times they had personally raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, tape wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages in fashion reminiscent of Genghis Khan, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the country side of South Vietnam in addition to the normal ravage of war, and the normal and very particular ravaging which is done by the applied bombing power of this country.

We call this investigation the "Winter Soldier Investigation." The term "Winter Soldier" is a play on words of Thomas Paine in 1776 when he spoke of the Sunshine Patriot and summertime soldiers who deserted at Valley Forge because the going was rough.

We who have come here to Washington have come here because we feel we have to be winter soldiers now. We could come back to this country; we could be quiet; we could hold our silence; we could not tell what went on in Vietnam, but we feel because of what threatens this country, the fact that the crimes threaten it, no reds, and not redcoats but the crimes which we are committing that threaten it, that we have to speak out. "
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Exactly. We shouldn't ask any country for their permission to protect our country and our freedoms for what we feel is the right thing to do.
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So what the fuck had Iraq to do with your national security? There was no terrorism in Iraq before the US invaded it. Now the whole region is becoming more and more fucked up
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Thats my whole point. We have to think in terms of our self-interest and self-preservation in this industry. Study your history. Our industry has always been harrassed but less so, by far, by Dems than Repubs. Bush wields the bible recklessly and has his fucking lapdog, John Asshead, go after us with bogus 2257's or COPA's. To flourish and survive, we need at this time a Liberal leaning Democrat who actually respects the first amendment, even if it means protecting us, the so-called "pornographer scum". Some ppl on this board who don't get these simple facts are living in a dangerous fantasy world.
You seem to have your facts a little mixed up.

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You seem to have your facts a little mixed up.

wtf are you talking about? are you going to tell me that the republicans are the defenders of our industry? or that democrats are harder on us than republicans? hmmmmmmmmmm.......how many obscenity prosecutions for our industry under Clinton? who's obsessed with COPA? who's obsessed with 2257's, which are completely bogus and designed to crush us with paper?

who's obsessed with, and really you should take note of this last one especially as it will be influencing everyone in this industry if it happens, appointing neo-conservative judges to the Supreme Court?

John Asshead puts drapes over Lady Liberty at the Justice Dept. because she is "naked." What do you think he will want to do with you and your sites if he gets another term? You don't get it. These ppl are dangerous to us. Those are the facts, my friend, and no, they are not mixed up at all.
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wtf are you talking about? are you going to tell me that the republicans are the defenders of our industry? or that democrats are harder on us than republicans? hmmmmmmmmmm.......how many obscenity prosecutions for our industry under Clinton? who's obsessed with COPA? who's obsessed with 2257's, which are completely bogus and designed to crush us with paper?

who's obsessed with, and really you should take note of this last one especially as it will be influencing everyone in this industry if it happens, appointing neo-conservative judges to the Supreme Court?

John Asshead puts drapes over Lady Liberty at the Justice Dept. because she is "naked." What do you think he will want to do with you and your sites if he gets another term? You don't get it. These ppl are dangerous to us. Those are the facts, my friend, and no, they are not mixed up at all.
I think my life is more important than worring about COPA, John Asshead, Supreme Court and some fucing porn.
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Fuck Dick and Bush.
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Old 09-03-2004, 10:13 AM   #40
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appointing neo-conservative judges to the Supreme Court
He alluded to such in his speech last night.

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John Asshead puts drapes over Lady Liberty at the Justice Dept. because she is "naked." What do you think he will want to do with you and your sites if he gets another term?
It's worse than you think
Something I bet you didn't know about asshead
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:04 AM   #41
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why would Kerry make a great president? because he would consult with the UN before he did anything with regards to our national security?
Do you people really think this is true? Ofcause he would stand up and defend your country any way he could if someone threaten you.

But with things that really isn´t a threat........ let me see if I can find an example.........IRAQ..... then he would go to the UN and try to work something out there.
Don´t give any of that shit that he would run to the UN before doing anything if your country was in danger he would defend you with any means.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:08 AM   #42
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The reason the UN said no was because they were smart enough to see thru all the BS that came out of Washington if you have had a legit case like in Desert Storm you would have a coalition backing you up.

Don´t know where Bush grew up but threathing state leaders and countries if they don´t do what he says they will be fucked don´t make a lot of friends in the real world
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:14 AM   #43
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Bush or Kerry will have identical policies whoever is elected.. don't fool yourself thinking it makes a difference who wins.
This comment couldn't be more ignorant.

The next President is going to appoint two or three Supreme Court judges... do you have any idea what that means? What it would mean to have 3 more extreme right Christian conservatives on the court? Obviously you don't.

FUCK SOME PEOPLE ARE STUPID.

Any American in this industry who doesn't understand this should quit and find a new fucking job TODAY. You're of no value to anyone.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:28 AM   #44
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with all due rspect, I think Cheney was too old to go to Nam
With all due respect, almost every one of your comments is a right wing talking point and almost all of them are incorrect. I can understand why you support Bush when your vision of reality is so fucked up.

No Cheney wasn't too old to go to Nam. Yes he got 5 student deferments. No Kerry did not say everyone in Nam was a war criminal.

You just repeat bullshit from the TV without checking to make sure it's the truth, it's obvious.

The funny thing is how highly you think of your own opinion.
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Old 09-03-2004, 11:36 AM   #45
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Try Chicago in 1968 . . . now that was a protest
Give it time. It'll get there.
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Old 09-03-2004, 01:50 PM   #46
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any adult webmaster who supports the Republican Party is either misguided or idiotic

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