Help Understanding the rejection letter I gof from Thehun - GoFuckYourself.com

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 09:33 AM

"Sorry, your gallery is declined:

The ratio between the ads and the content on your site is below the average of what is posted on the Hun's Yellow Pages right now. This doesn't mean your gallery is bad or anything, it just doesn't mean it's not as good as the other ones we get."

What is the ratio between the ads and the content? How do you figure out this average? Anyone know. This is the gallery.

Class now in session. Let's learn something.

http://www.crazycontent.com/gallery/...uck_158hun.htm

jasmine · 01-05-2004, 09:35 AM

I guess he means you have four ads and 4 movies...

timboss · 01-05-2004, 09:36 AM

add some more clips

DarkBob · 01-05-2004, 09:36 AM

lose some ads

Digipimp · 01-05-2004, 09:38 AM

At least he's nice and informative about it, my email would have said

Dear Sir or Ma'am

Your gallery sucks please do not submit to me anymore. If you feel that you must then SoBe it.

Mojo Rizin · 01-05-2004, 09:38 AM

I dont really think he has a set ratio, but on a site like his anytime the ads are more the center of attention then the content your "ratio" is too high

LasseKongos · 01-05-2004, 09:39 AM

Shitty gallery!

When a visitor first see your gallery they have to see some pics or movies. When I open your gallery I only see one of your ads and much text....

Do like this:
One ad.
Then the movies and after that a new ad.

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 09:40 AM

I thought the hun dude was really polite with that email. Sort of sweet and humorous I think.

But what is an add? An add is just any graphic that is not a thumbnail?

infectd · 01-05-2004, 09:42 AM

Just unlink your header/footer images.

there so close to the ones that say "click here" that it probably wouldnt effect your ctr.
just my

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 09:44 AM

Hmm, I can't really add more video becuase I am giving away like 4 mb already. To give more would be suicide.

I could chop them into smaller lengths but then some tgps wont take my galleries becuase tey want like 15 sec vids.

I think the thing to do is to add pics to it as well and remove some of the adds.

Or just remove some of the adds.

But them some of the submit scrips wont accept my gallery becuase it does not have enough images in it.

So that means that if I really want to use one template for all my submissions I have to add pics. aahhrhhrgggg

Yes add thumbs that lead to pics. That is the soloution

fusionx · 01-05-2004, 09:46 AM

For pics, a decent rule of thumb is 1 outbound link for 5 pics. Movies are little more lenient usually. It seems that most TGP's accept 10 - 20 pics and 4 - 5 movies, so if you can have 10 total links (ads, recips, whatever) with 20 pics you can probably have 3 - 4 links with 4 movies. Just a guess - every TGP is different.

Since yours all go to the same place, you could wrap the top two in one URL, same with the bottom two.

I've read that theHun is really looking for super clean galleries now.

I'd probably clean it up - you really don't need all those links - I'd probably drop both "crazy content" images and only have the "boobs" and "big mpg" linked out.

I'd also move theHuns banner to the top, or lose it completely.

of course, I've never been listed on theHun so your mileage may vary

Yngwie · 01-05-2004, 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie
I thought the hun dude was really polite with that email. Sort of sweet and humorous I think.

But what is an add? An add is just any graphic that is not a thumbnail?

ad = advertisement to the site(s) that you're promoting.

in this case the ADs are way too big. you don't need all that too make money..

Trax · 01-05-2004, 09:47 AM

easy.. make less ads and dont submit sobe content ;)

V_RocKs · 01-05-2004, 09:51 AM

Layout sucked, I would have shit canned it just because it looked like a star wars armada of ships jockying for a space in a port or something...

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by V_RocKs
Layout sucked, I would have shit canned it just because it looked like a star wars armada of ships jockying for a space in a port or something...

From Return of the Jedi or clone war? I love those flicks.

Oh, and the Soegirl videos content is making me bling bling :-)

SoBe in Super MPG chachings even louder = $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Thanks for all the great tips on my ugly gallery. I really appreciate it

Carrie · 01-05-2004, 10:20 AM

A ratio is the comparison of one number to another.
Like the number of signups you get compared to the number of people you sent to the sponsor gives you a signup ratio. One signup in 500 visitors would be 1:500.

In this case it's the number of ads compared to the number of movies/content you have. 1 ad for every 1 movie gives you a ratio of 1:1. Wayyyyyyy too high.

Your advertising should be about 1:5.
One ad for every 5 movies/pics on your gallery.

With 4 movies this would leave you with the stunning option of ONE ad, which could easily work on Hun traffic if you do it right. Fill the gallery with lots of juicy, sexy text that gets the surfer worked up and wanting to see more, then give him a big bright easy-to-see link to take him to the sponsor. Something like "click here now for instant access" or "click here to see the full-length version".

Big fat font and bright eye-catching colors on the link, make it stand out from the rest of the text and draw the eyes down to it, so that the surfer can't help but look at it.

Nikoleta · 01-05-2004, 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LasseKongos
Shitty gallery!

When a visitor first see your gallery they have to see some pics or movies. When I open your gallery I only see one of your ads and much text....

Do like this:
One ad.
Then the movies and after that a new ad.

agree

Ron2k1 · 01-05-2004, 10:46 AM

Simply use smaller ads, I don't see why that decline email from the Hun is so hard to understand

gornyhuy · 01-05-2004, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ron2k1
Simply use smaller ads, I don't see why that decline email from the Hun is so hard to understand

Its not the size, its the number.

SomeCreep · 01-05-2004, 10:54 AM

Your "banners/sponsor out" links are waaaaaaay too huge. The page loads and it looks like an FPA before you scroll down. TheHun doesnt like galleries where the emphasis is on advertising. Lose the header and footer graphics and replace them with 1 text link at the bottom of your vids that says "Click Here To See All These Crazy Ass Bitches" (like your graphic says).

Summary:
4 vids, no graphics, 1 text link at the bottom of your page.

pradaboy · 01-05-2004, 10:57 AM

it just means he gets better galls than yours daily... what's there to understand?

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SomeCreep
Your "banners/sponsor out" links are waaaaaaay too huge. The page loads and it looks like an FPA before you scroll down. TheHun doesnt like galleries where the emphasis is on advertising. Lose the header and footer graphics and replace them with 1 text link at the bottom of your vids that says "Click Here To See All These Crazy Ass Bitches" (like your graphic says).

Summary:
4 vids, no graphics, 1 text link at the bottom of your page.

This is some good advice but then there are some gallery sumbmittal scripts that look for more images on a gallery. If they are not there the script will reject your gallery. So In that case I guess I will have to put in some pics too. like 4 tumbs with pics maybe.

smproduction · 01-05-2004, 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie
What is the ratio between the ads and the content? How do you figure out this average? Anyone know. This is the gallery.

It means you have to use more content or less ads

digifan · 01-05-2004, 12:05 PM

Try and load the page on 800x600 and you can see the top ad only...

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 12:40 PM

Def going to re design the template. Thanks for all your input.

If anyone is interestd in making me some galleries with vids like the one you see in my first post hit me up...

cya.

Fletch XXX · 01-05-2004, 12:55 PM

double negatives.

'This doesn't mean your gallery is bad or anything, it just doesn't mean it's not as good as the other ones we get.'

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Fletch XXX
double negatives.

'This doesn't mean your gallery is bad or anything, it just doesn't mean it's not as good as the other ones we get.'

Yea, his reply is interesting. Well put.

Do you want me to post the entire letter?

Nobody asked how long it took me to get that reply....

fusionx · 01-05-2004, 01:02 PM

I'd love to know how long you waited after submission :-)

broke · 01-05-2004, 01:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie

Nobody asked how long it took me to get that reply....

Maybe because no one cares.

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 01:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

Maybe because no one cares.

I think there are a lot of people that care. If you can get a gallery on the Hun, anywhere, it could be worth more than a few signups a day.

broke · 01-05-2004, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie

I think there are a lot of people that care. If you can get a gallery on the Hun, anywhere, it could be worth more than a few signups a day.

Really?

Gee thanks... whatever would I do without people like you to point me in the right direction.

Let me give you a hint now.

You wouldn't want that gallery listed on the hun -- you'd burn a shitload of bandwidth and not make a sale.

mrmovie · 01-05-2004, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by broke

Really?

Gee thanks... whatever would I do without people like you to point me in the right direction.

Let me give you a hint now.

You wouldn't want that gallery listed on the hun -- you'd burn a shitload of bandwidth and not make a sale.

Hello Mr. Broke. Thanks for your opinion. And you are correct. This gallery does use a lot of bandwidth but it does get me some sales. I get these galleries to run on several major TGPs right now and I get sales every day with that template.

I never really expected to get my gallery accepted for the hun becuase the odds are stacked very much not to. Even more than that I never expected to get a letter from them telling me why I was rejected.

You correct about the bandwidth though. I think that a major problem is all the foreign traffic from the TGPs. I know these guys are not going to buy but they do have broadband connections.

What do you think about that?

And Broke, I am just wondering, what is it that you do?

01-05-2004, 03:44 PM

That's his standard auto decline. That letter wasn't written just for you.

Just forget about it and move on, bro. Reduce the ad's, add a little more content and you should get listed if you submit some nice stuff.

broke · 01-05-2004, 03:55 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie

I think that a major problem is all the foreign traffic from the TGPs. I know these guys are not going to buy but they do have broadband connections.

What do you think about that?

I think that those people are just as willing to buy, but have been ignored due to the fact that no one markets to them correctly. I think that is due to the fact that most buyers from the beginning been US based and most people don't have the know how to expand their business internationally.

I think with marketing that speaks to what they want coupled with billing options in their native currency would spike foreign sales.

Quote:

Originally posted by mrmovie

And Broke, I am just wondering, what is it that you do?

I do what you do apparently... and have been doing it for a LONG time. That and a few other things.

Vitasoy · 01-05-2004, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by shermsshack
That's his standard auto decline. That letter wasn't written just for you. Just forget about it and move on, bro. Reduce the ad's, add a little more content and you should get listed if you submit some nice stuff.

What he said.

Ic3m4nZ · 01-05-2004, 04:12 PM

That's what we call a shitty gallery exactly

Jarmusch · 01-05-2004, 04:18 PM

You actually got a rejection email from the hun? I never got any of those for the very few times I didn't get listed, so stop complaining.

- AFN - · 01-05-2004, 05:46 PM

It is fairly self-explanatory. Try Hooked on Phonics... It really Works!

The Hun · 01-07-2004, 03:44 PM

It's not that hard... I look at this gallery and see the ads before the content... Which is fine, but I get a lot of galleries submitted that put the focus on the content...

01-05-2004, 09:33 AM	#1
mrmovie So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 396	Help Understanding the rejection letter I gof from Thehun "Sorry, your gallery is declined: The ratio between the ads and the content on your site is below the average of what is posted on the Hun's Yellow Pages right now. This doesn't mean your gallery is bad or anything, it just doesn't mean it's not as good as the other ones we get." What is the ratio between the ads and the content? How do you figure out this average? Anyone know. This is the gallery. Class now in session. Let's learn something. http://www.crazycontent.com/gallery/...uck_158hun.htm

01-05-2004, 09:35 AM	#2
jasmine Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,013	I guess he means you have four ads and 4 movies... __________________ I've been getting paid by SexOnTheSide for 10 years!

01-05-2004, 09:36 AM	#3
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01-05-2004, 09:38 AM	#5
Digipimp BP4L OT DL Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: BP4L Swap Meet Posts: 13,481	At least he's nice and informative about it, my email would have said Dear Sir or Ma'am Your gallery sucks please do not submit to me anymore. If you feel that you must then SoBe it. __________________ Still Hosting at Webair and You Should Be Too

01-05-2004, 09:38 AM	#6
Mojo Rizin Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Chandler, AZ Posts: 1,089	I dont really think he has a set ratio, but on a site like his anytime the ads are more the center of attention then the content your "ratio" is too high __________________ Start Making Reel Profits Today! VOIP Technology Is NOW

01-05-2004, 09:36 AM	#4
DarkBob Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 2,300	lose some ads

01-05-2004, 09:39 AM	#7
LasseKongos Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,668	Shitty gallery! When a visitor first see your gallery they have to see some pics or movies. When I open your gallery I only see one of your ads and much text.... Do like this: One ad. Then the movies and after that a new ad.

01-05-2004, 09:40 AM	#8
mrmovie So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 396	I thought the hun dude was really polite with that email. Sort of sweet and humorous I think. But what is an add? An add is just any graphic that is not a thumbnail?

01-05-2004, 09:42 AM	#9
infectd Confirmed User Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Canerda Posts: 1,122	Just unlink your header/footer images. there so close to the ones that say "click here" that it probably wouldnt effect your ctr. just my

01-05-2004, 09:44 AM	#10
mrmovie So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 396	Hmm, I can't really add more video becuase I am giving away like 4 mb already. To give more would be suicide. I could chop them into smaller lengths but then some tgps wont take my galleries becuase tey want like 15 sec vids. I think the thing to do is to add pics to it as well and remove some of the adds. Or just remove some of the adds. But them some of the submit scrips wont accept my gallery becuase it does not have enough images in it. So that means that if I really want to use one template for all my submissions I have to add pics. aahhrhhrgggg Yes add thumbs that lead to pics. That is the soloution

01-05-2004, 09:46 AM	#11
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	For pics, a decent rule of thumb is 1 outbound link for 5 pics. Movies are little more lenient usually. It seems that most TGP's accept 10 - 20 pics and 4 - 5 movies, so if you can have 10 total links (ads, recips, whatever) with 20 pics you can probably have 3 - 4 links with 4 movies. Just a guess - every TGP is different. Since yours all go to the same place, you could wrap the top two in one URL, same with the bottom two. I've read that theHun is really looking for super clean galleries now. I'd probably clean it up - you really don't need all those links - I'd probably drop both "crazy content" images and only have the "boobs" and "big mpg" linked out. I'd also move theHuns banner to the top, or lose it completely. of course, I've never been listed on theHun so your mileage may vary

01-05-2004, 09:47 AM	#13
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	easy.. make less ads and dont submit sobe content ;)

01-05-2004, 09:51 AM	#14
V_RocKs Damn Right I Kiss Ass! Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Cowtown, USA Posts: 32,409	Layout sucked, I would have shit canned it just because it looked like a star wars armada of ships jockying for a space in a port or something...

01-05-2004, 10:20 AM	#16
Carrie Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Virgin - nee Posts: 3,162	A ratio is the comparison of one number to another. Like the number of signups you get compared to the number of people you sent to the sponsor gives you a signup ratio. One signup in 500 visitors would be 1:500. In this case it's the number of ads compared to the number of movies/content you have. 1 ad for every 1 movie gives you a ratio of 1:1. Wayyyyyyy too high. Your advertising should be about 1:5. One ad for every 5 movies/pics on your gallery. With 4 movies this would leave you with the stunning option of ONE ad, which could easily work on Hun traffic if you do it right. Fill the gallery with lots of juicy, sexy text that gets the surfer worked up and wanting to see more, then give him a big bright easy-to-see link to take him to the sponsor. Something like "click here now for instant access" or "click here to see the full-length version". Big fat font and bright eye-catching colors on the link, make it stand out from the rest of the text and draw the eyes down to it, so that the surfer can't help but look at it.

01-05-2004, 10:46 AM	#18
Ron2k1 Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,573	Simply use smaller ads, I don't see why that decline email from the Hun is so hard to understand

01-05-2004, 10:54 AM	#20
SomeCreep :glugglug Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Where the Wild Things Are Posts: 26,118	Your "banners/sponsor out" links are waaaaaaay too huge. The page loads and it looks like an FPA before you scroll down. TheHun doesnt like galleries where the emphasis is on advertising. Lose the header and footer graphics and replace them with 1 text link at the bottom of your vids that says "Click Here To See All These Crazy Ass Bitches" (like your graphic says). Summary: 4 vids, no graphics, 1 text link at the bottom of your page. __________________ Webair Hosting I use and recommend Webair for hosting.

01-05-2004, 10:57 AM	#21
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01-05-2004, 12:05 PM	#24
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01-05-2004, 12:40 PM	#25
mrmovie So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 396	Def going to re design the template. Thanks for all your input. If anyone is interestd in making me some galleries with vids like the one you see in my first post hit me up... cya.

01-05-2004, 12:55 PM	#26
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01-05-2004, 01:02 PM	#28
fusionx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Olongapo City, Philippines Posts: 4,618	I'd love to know how long you waited after submission :-)

01-05-2004, 03:44 PM	#33
shermo Guest Posts: n/a	That's his standard auto decline. That letter wasn't written just for you. Just forget about it and move on, bro. Reduce the ad's, add a little more content and you should get listed if you submit some nice stuff.

01-05-2004, 04:12 PM	#36
Ic3m4nZ Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Montreal! Posts: 6,285	That's what we call a shitty gallery exactly

01-05-2004, 04:18 PM	#37
Jarmusch Industry Role: Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 12,464	You actually got a rejection email from the hun? I never got any of those for the very few times I didn't get listed, so stop complaining.

01-05-2004, 05:46 PM	#38
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01-07-2004, 03:44 PM	#39
The Hun Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 1,207	It's not that hard... I look at this gallery and see the ads before the content... Which is fine, but I get a lot of galleries submitted that put the focus on the content...