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Old 08-30-2004, 10:24 PM   #1
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Why has everyone forgotten all the b/s associated with 9/11/01?

For instance this: http://infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV
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Because people are stupid. I didn't think we were THAT stupid, but apparently we are. Look around.
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For instance this: http://infowars.com/Video/911/wtc7_pbs.WMV
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wait... what do people think happened then?
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wait... what do people think happened then?
Nobody I've talked to IRL thought any of the buildings were demolished even though all signs point to yes.

That's just 1 of the 1000000000000 little instances of complete b/s everyone swallowed without a flinch.
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okay, you lost me . . . .#7 burned to the ground because there were no firefighters to put it out . . . what is your point?
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okay, you lost me . . . .#7 burned to the ground because there were no firefighters to put it out . . . what is your point?
it didn't burn to the ground. it was demolished.
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The U.S. reaction to the 9/11 attacks just reinforces the idea that terror tactics work. Billions spent, bad decisions made, political infighting... People are letting terrorists determine their actions and the future of their country.

The best thing the U.S. could have done was to attempt to hunt down the people responsible without destroying entire countries in the process; do its best not to repeat the mistakes that allowed the attacks to happen; rebuild what has been destroyed and otherwise go about business as usual.

Ok, that didn't happen, it probably couldn't have... but really, it looks like the terrorists have won.
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okay, you lost me . . . .#7 burned to the ground because there were no firefighters to put it out . . . what is your point?
All of these buildings are very strong with concrete and thousands of steal beams. (They don't burn down)
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You think this is natural? After millions of gallons of water it keeps burning for 99 days.

"After 99 days of burning, NYC declares the WTC fires are extinguished - 9 x 11 = 99.
The World Trade Center fires burn continuously for 99 days, between September 11, 2001 and
December 19, 2001. The World Trade Center fire is the longest burning commercial fire in U.S. history."

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okay, you lost me . . . .#7 burned to the ground because there were no firefighters to put it out . . . what is your point?
Does that building look like it burned down to you?
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Does that building look like it burned down to you?

Pointing to the Meridian Plaza fire in Philadelphia in 1991, Hufschmid writes, "The Meridian Plaza fire was extreme, but it did not cause the building to collapse. The fire in the South Tower seems insignificant by comparison to both the Meridian Plaza fire and the fire in the North Tower. How could the tiny fire in the South Tower cause the entire structure to shatter into dust after 56 minutes while much more extreme fires did not cause the Meridian Plaza building to even crack into two pieces?"


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okay, you lost me . . . .#7 burned to the ground because there were no firefighters to put it out . . . what is your point?
WTC #7 was home to American Express, Salomon Smith Barney, Standard Chartered Bank, Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt, and many them had their main datacenters in WTC #7.

I don't know if you have toured your local datacenter, but most centers have a reserve of diesel fuel that will kick in should the power fail.

WTC #7 is pelted with flaming chunks of WTC 1 & 2, there is no water pressure in that part of town, due to the collapse, so the fire suppresion system (the sprinklers) can't stop a raging fire with all those flamable materials in the building.

Then you have up to 42,000+ gallons of diesel fuel sitting on various floors burning away, and no firefighters actively trying to stop these fires from spreading within the building.

Put all these factors together, not to mention the foundation is not in the best of shape after everything that has happened with building collapses, giant multi-ton pieces of building and airplanes being flung around, 42,000+ gallons of flaming diesel fuel, paper, desks, other flammable office materiels burning, no sprinklers, no firefighters and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a building is going to collapse given all those factors.
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WTC #7 was home to American Express, Salomon Smith Barney, Standard Chartered Bank, Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt, and many them had their main datacenters in WTC #7.

I don't know if you have toured your local datacenter, but most centers have a reserve of diesel fuel that will kick in should the power fail.

WTC #7 is pelted with flaming chunks of WTC 1 & 2, there is no water pressure in that part of town, due to the collapse, so the fire suppresion system (the sprinklers) can't stop a raging fire with all those flamable materials in the building.

Then you have up to 42,000+ gallons of diesel fuel sitting on various floors burning away, and no firefighters actively trying to stop these fires from spreading within the building.

Put all these factors together, not to mention the foundation is not in the best of shape after everything that has happened with building collapses, giant multi-ton pieces of building and airplanes being flung around, 42,000+ gallons of flaming diesel fuel, paper, desks, other flammable office materiels burning, no sprinklers, no firefighters and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a building is going to collapse given all those factors.
How then, if they are helpless against the building being on fire.. do they get dynamite around the building and "pull it". The building was brought down, as this guy said... HOW THE FUCK was it brought down?

I think 9/11 was staged, but hey.. I think more than 1 person shot at Kennedy.
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How then, if they are helpless against the building being on fire.. do they get dynamite around the building and "pull it". The building was brought down, as this guy said... HOW THE FUCK was it brought down?

I think 9/11 was staged, but hey.. I think more than 1 person shot at Kennedy.
So you think Bush woke up one day and said, "hey! I've got an idea! Let's fly two of our planes into the world trade centers, destroy them both, kill thousands of Americans, stage a few Pakistanian cheering crowds, and profile a few innocent Arabs as terrorists, just so I can have an excuse to go to war and make America hate me!"? Or do you think it's all done with mirrors and the towers are actually still there?

You're going to have to elaborate as to how you think it was "staged", because I just don't see any logic here.
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So you think Bush woke up one day and said, "hey! I've got an idea! Let's fly two of our planes into the world trade centers, destroy them both, kill thousands of Americans, stage a few Pakistanian cheering crowds, and profile a few innocent Arabs as terrorists, just so I can have an excuse to go to war and make America hate me!"? Or do you think it's all done with mirrors and the towers are actually still there?

You're going to have to elaborate as to how you think it was "staged", because I just don't see any logic here.
That's too much for Bush to handle. Now if you said that Bush's big idea was to throw a passport of a middle eastern guy on the ground at the site and claim it made it through all the fire safely it would be more plausible.
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That's too much for Bush to handle. Now if you said that Bush's big idea was to throw a passport of a middle eastern guy on the ground at the site and claim it made it through all the fire safely it would be more plausible.
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This wasn´t a normal fire this was a plane full of fuel that exploded inside a building. The impact, the explosion and the heat from the fire these are the things that caused the building to collapse I doubt any building could withstand that.

If 9/11 never had happened George II would have satisfied his need for war another way.
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This wasn´t a normal fire this was a plane full of fuel that exploded inside a building. The impact, the explosion and the heat from the fire these are the things that caused the building to collapse I doubt any building could withstand that.

If 9/11 never had happened George II would have satisfied his need for war another way.
Building 7 was not hit by a plane genius. Small fires inside were reported but they weren't blazing. Firefighters had been in the building to get everyone out and knew all about the fires.
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it didn't burn to the ground. it was demolished.
It's just fuckedup ... I'm sure Bush will find a way to stay in office ... (cheating) . If that happens, the world is doomed
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You think this is natural? After millions of gallons of water it keeps burning for 99 days.

"After 99 days of burning, NYC declares the WTC fires are extinguished - 9 x 11 = 99.
The World Trade Center fires burn continuously for 99 days, between September 11, 2001 and
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WTF ... that's the first time I hear about it
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WTC #7 was home to American Express, Salomon Smith Barney, Standard Chartered Bank, Mayor's Office of Emergency Mgmt, and many them had their main datacenters in WTC #7.

I don't know if you have toured your local datacenter, but most centers have a reserve of diesel fuel that will kick in should the power fail.

WTC #7 is pelted with flaming chunks of WTC 1 & 2, there is no water pressure in that part of town, due to the collapse, so the fire suppresion system (the sprinklers) can't stop a raging fire with all those flamable materials in the building.

Then you have up to 42,000+ gallons of diesel fuel sitting on various floors burning away, and no firefighters actively trying to stop these fires from spreading within the building.

Put all these factors together, not to mention the foundation is not in the best of shape after everything that has happened with building collapses, giant multi-ton pieces of building and airplanes being flung around, 42,000+ gallons of flaming diesel fuel, paper, desks, other flammable office materiels burning, no sprinklers, no firefighters and you don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a building is going to collapse given all those factors.
Building 7 only burned for about 1 hour. While in 1991 Meridian Plaza which is one of the worst fires in history burned for 19 hours and it didn't come down.
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You guys are a buncha fuckin idiots. I lived 2 blocks from ground zero and saw everything with my own 2 eyes. Running for my sons and my life mind you, but leme tell you, it was real.

You conspiracy fucks should go back to your star trek convention, and don't forget your tinfoil hats.

From all of us who are still having sleepness nights from the nightmares.
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You guys are a buncha fuckin idiots. I lived 2 blocks from ground zero and saw everything with my own 2 eyes. Running for my sons and my life mind you, but leme tell you, it was real.

You conspiracy fucks should go back to your star trek convention, and don't forget your tinfoil hats.

From all of us who are still having sleepness nights from the nightmares.
YEP Exactly and Enough Said. So you conspiracy fucks listen up. If Michael Moore really wanted to get his message out why did you idiots pay money? Shouldn't he have shown this for free? Doesn't this sound like War Profiteering which ironically he complains BUSH Does. But thats the Democratic way, avoid questions and point the finger at someone else. All I've seen Bush do is answer the questions. Something Kerry needs to do very quickly. 2 months left and I still don' t know where this idiot stands.

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