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I liked you post, if i ever need hosting I'll contact you.Originally posted by RedShoe
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I would like to see some kind of apology though, because this has hurt my friend's business.
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Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Oh its my fault now that they forwarded the domain to a porn site
Nice way of thinking
It's your own mistake for NOT updating/switching DNS servers prior to your service going offline.
You're the idiot who doesnt know how to properly do a server switch and fucked it up..
You should have been running the site on BOTH MACHINES while you updated the DNS servers so that regargless of which IP they went to they would have gotten the right site. Once the world sees the new DNS changes is when you can get rid of the old machine.
ALL THAT SHOULD HAVE BEEN DONE BEFORE YOUR SERVICE WITH WEBAIR WAS FINISHED.Comment
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An apology for your own mistake?Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
I would like to see some kind of apology though, because this has hurt my friend's business.
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So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)...LOL it has no use to argue with it you, since you aren't cutting to the case here. Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant. Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl . The site should have been down as the server went down. Simple as that.Originally posted by notjoe
An apology for your own mistake?Last edited by Platinumpimp; 08-30-2004, 05:23 AM.I design logo's.Comment
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you should apologise to webair and this board for all the trouble you caused.
then you sould cut your throat with a very dull knife.
you have a brilliant future in front of you.
shoveling shit.
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hahahaha, damn, today is a "quality drama" day !!Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
don't talk about my grandfather you lowlife piece of copying shit, you don't even know me.
Btw shouldn't you be copying penis pill sites?
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Date : 12-7-2004 Time : 20:53
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Date : 12-7-2004 Time : 20:53
From : K-Man
my big affiliate wants it
Shut the fuck up with your big mouth you piece of fucking trash.
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You're still missing the fact THAT YOU FUCKED UP and not webair.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)...LOL it has no use to argue with it you, since you aren't cutting to the case here. Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant. Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl . The site should have been down as the server went down. Simple as that.
"So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)..."
The above statement is complete bullshit. Your service agreement withh webair was obviously over and like any other company would do they give your IPS to a NEW CUSTOMER.
"Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant."
That made the difference between your site going to where it should be going and to where it was going.
ONCE AGAIN, IT IS NOT WEBAIR'S FAULT YOU LEFT YOUR DOMAIN POINTING TO AN IP ADDRESS YOU HAD NO CONTROL OVER ANYMORE.
"Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl ."
There was a porn site there because someone else took the IP space which was assigned to you but since you're not a customer anymore it isnt yours...Do you really expect they to pay for resources to sit idle because you're stupid?
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PlatinumPimp you are a fucking moron. This is 100% YOUR FAULT and has nothing to do with WebAir. Now stop being a piece of shit liar and go tell your "friend" you are the one who fucked up.
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I dont think this PlatinumPimp should be allowed to use the interweb as he obviously has no clue about how it works.Originally posted by SwordFish
PlatinumPimp you are a fucking moron. This is 100% YOUR FAULT and has nothing to do with WebAir. Now stop being a piece of shit liar and go tell your "friend" you are the one who fucked up.
Idiot.
In 'noob' terms which you probably wont understand because you are so fucking stupid here goes..
YOU DIDNT CHANGE THE DNS
If you dont change the DNS the old host will assign the old IP to a new client its standard practice for just about every host there is.
The first thing yuo do when you change hosts is to change your own fucking DNS.
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Platinum... one last time...
People have been telling you for the past 50 posts...
Your domain was pointing to an IP.
You left their business... but were unable to perform the simple tasks of making sure all is pointing ok to your new server.
My guess is you problably wanted to save a few bucks...
Now Webair sign up a new customer. They give that now vacant IP to the new customer.
Customer being the smart porn hustler sees that a bunch of clowns are still looking for some old site that use to point to this IP. Porn dude forwards the suckers into some fucking granny site.
Im not too sure on how this will convert for him... but its legal.
In no way should Webair even waist a second trying to respond to this bullshit.Comment
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webair owns an IP you own DOMAIN. IP was assigned to someone else, you still had your domain pointing to that IP. what is so hard to understand? you're responsible for where ur domain points, and not smart idea pointing domain to where you're not hosting. is this simple enough?Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)...LOL it has no use to argue with it you, since you aren't cutting to the case here. Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant. Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl . The site should have been down as the server went down. Simple as that.Comment
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RedShoe... fucking A bro...
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one more thing, you can tell your client
its not webairs fault, its your fucken irresponsiblility before the client, you owe an apology to webair for such BS thread and to the client that his site was pointing to a porn site becasue you didnt take no action in switching the domain in time.Comment
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if your friends site has decent traffic, he wouldnt be scraping on a shabby host
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PlatinumPimp.. I bet you really wish you didnt spill beans now, do ya?
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The domain was pointed to NS.WEBAIR.COM NS2.WEBAIR.COM, (just like www.bluehentai.com which also shows the same porn site) and NOT to 69.42.75.204 which was my server (creation.webair.com)
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does webair control your domain???
fuck who has access to the domain! its not hard to switch DNS from one to anotherComment
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PlatinumPimp, you fucked up.
Emd of Thread.Comment
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You are missing the point. They did not forward your site to a porn site.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)...LOL it has no use to argue with it you, since you aren't cutting to the case here. Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant. Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl . The site should have been down as the server went down. Simple as that.
By not changing your DNS settings, you forwarded the traffic to the porn site.
Let's see if I can make this simple. You have your DNS set up across the net so that when someone types in your domain name, a certain ip is returned.
You got off of webair, but did not change your dns settings. Meanwhile Webair apparently reassigned the ip you had to someone else, who used it for a porn site.
Because you did not change your DNS settings, when someone typed in your domain name all the dns servers on the net would have returned the IP that was now reassigned and which now pointed at a porn site.
Is that simple enough to understand.
IMHO, you now owe WebAir an apology.All cookies cleared!Comment
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you dont understand the whole process how domains and name servers works.
heres a rundown in simple words
lets say u want to host a domain at webair, you got your server there
69.42.75.204 (creation.webair.com)
you have to make a change in your domain registrar to point to webair's name servers NS ans NS2 which will point the domain to 69.42.75.204
if creation.webair.com is your name server you had to login to domain account and point DNS there to your creation.webair.com
i assume webair doesnt have full control over the domain, therefore webair cannot be held liable for where your domain phisically points to at any given time.Comment
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surely if he's pointing to NS.WEBAIR.COM & NS2.WEBAIR.COM he's using webairs dns and the entrys for his domain should have been removed when he closed his account, before the ip was given to someone else.Comment
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No.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Ok. Are you going to agree with me that this should have never happened (my buddy got a lot of clients who were pissed off, probably costed him a bit of bizz) , even though I did not change my nameservers?
If your host was using Named Virtual Hosts, which I bet they are, this would most definately happen if you didn't change the nameservers.
See what happens is, a host puts a couple hundred smaller clients on the same server. All with the SAME IP ADDRESS (yes, that means the porn site has the same IP address as the restraunt).
As long as there is a virt host entry in your apache configs, you're good to go. However, if the domain is removed, and your name servers still point to the old IP address, the server defaults to the site at the top of the list.
Meaning, if a pornsite was at the top, thats the one that would come up.
the only way (out side of CHANGING YOUR FUCKING NAME SERVERS) to prevent this, would be for a) your host to assign different IP's to every single domain on the server (which is fucking stupid) or b.) to reassign the IPs once a domain has been moved (AGAIN, FUCKING STUPID).
The easiest and best way to avoid this is TO CHANGE THE FUCKING NAME SERVERS!!!
Either way, there will be some lag while the DNS updates world wide......Comment
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Obviously it's a big mistake. The niche should be bukkake.Comment
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It is quite possible that they did remove his entries.Originally posted by roly
surely if he's pointing to NS.WEBAIR.COM & NS2.WEBAIR.COM he's using webairs dns and the entrys for his domain should have been removed when he closed his account, before the ip was given to someone else.
BUT, the various dns servers across the net would still have had that entry cached. Because no other dns records were available for the domain, in all likelihood the servers would have returned the cached ip for his domain.All cookies cleared!Comment
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You could have called them like this guy
http://www.fuck-off.com/techsupportcall.mp3
(old but still funny
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Hmmm PP...Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Ehmm no, the DNS just got changed like I said in an earlier post. which will take about 3-4 hours to propiagate through the internet, so in 3-4 hours the shizer will be gone. So I do not need webair their help anyway
It takes a lot fucking longer than 3 or 4 hours for dns changes to propogate.
Try minimum of 3 or 4 days and even then if a dns server somewhere along the way is screwing up, it could return the old info for months.All cookies cleared!Comment
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this is what I think as well.Originally posted by roly
surely if he's pointing to NS.WEBAIR.COM & NS2.WEBAIR.COM he's using webairs dns and the entrys for his domain should have been removed when he closed his account, before the ip was given to someone else.I design logo's.Comment
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I'm mailing the local media to pick this fucked up. It will be all over Netherlands in a bit
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depends on the contract and also if the contract was properly closed or maybe webair cleans their ns entries once a month? in anycase webair should not answer why didn't they remove the entry in the first place.Originally posted by roly
surely if he's pointing to NS.WEBAIR.COM & NS2.WEBAIR.COM he's using webairs dns and the entrys for his domain should have been removed when he closed his account, before the ip was given to someone else.
BUT
why the fuck do you want to keep dns pointing to your old host after you moved your shit out of there? and then make yourself look like a complete idiot?
and now he complains that his client sees porn on own domain when in reality there should be nothing at all because otherwise they would have changed the dns in time.Comment
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I was waiting for my other box to get setup, I was simply in the understanding the site just would go down for a couple of days.Originally posted by holograph
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why the fuck do you want to keep dns pointing to your old host after you moved your shit out of there? and then make yourself look like a complete idiot?
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lot of hot air here...If lesbian anal is wrong, I don't want to be right.Comment
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you're blaming the wrong party. you or whoever responsible for the domain had to go to the domain account and remove old host's dns from there at the time of leaving them.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
this is what I think as well.
you're full of yourself.Comment
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Hold yourself a mirror dude, LOL.Originally posted by holograph
you're full of yourself.I design logo's.Comment
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i cant beleave i read all that i want that ten mins of my life back please. I was riped off
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see heres your flow in logic:Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
I was waiting for my other box to get setup, I was simply in the understanding the site just would go down for a couple of days.
you terminated webair, went to look for another host meanwhile site is going to be down (like who cares, you probably had ur reasons) then setup up everything on the new host and only then switch the dns?
in case if i had to expirinece downtime of my sites i would have done everything possible to lessen that time and while waiting on the server to be setup change the dns, this btw would have cost you less of downtime becasue of propagating time. now your downtime is going to be longer. and since now you have a free time waiting on the server to be build you decided come to bash old host becasue theres nothing else to do about own mistakes and porn still comes out.
you're right and webair should be sorry for not cleaning their ns entry's in time or ever.
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if you know me and you know where i'm wrong please do tell, mirrow doesn't show that.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
Hold yourself a mirror dude, LOL.Comment
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PP...
Hmm.. don't know where to start here because I think you have a basic misunderstanding of how some things work.
You said earlier that you had the domain dns pointing to webairs nameservers NOT to your server at 69.42.75.204.
BUT webairs nameservers point to that ip for the domain and if you go to that ip directly, you will get the porn site you are talking about.
It looks (from what I can see) like you have changed the nameservers in your domain record to point to the nameservers at interip.nl but you have the entry still pointing to the same ip (69.42.75.204) which eans that the domain will continue to go to the porn site.
You need to edit the entry so they are pointing at a different ip if you want the porn site to go away when folks look for your friends site.
from my whois tools:
www.fuji-ya.nlLOOKUP
;Question:;resp bb11 opcode:00 aa:0 tc:0 rd:1 ra:0 rcode:0 QD:1 AN:0 NS:2 AR:2
;NS:
fuji-ya.nl. 1D NS dns2.interip.nl.
1D NS dns1.interip.nl.
;Additional:
dns1.interip.nl. 1D A 81.4.76.10 ; rtt:144
dns2.interip.nl. 1D A 81.4.76.20 ; rtt:143
;NOERROR NORECURSE 4 answers.
;Question:;resp b6c4 opcode:00 aa:1 tc:0 rd:1 ra:0 rcode:0 QD:1 AN:1 NS:3 AR:3
;Answer:
www.fuji-ya.nl. 5M A 69.42.75.204 ; rtt:78(netlen:24)
;NS:
fuji-ya.nl. 5M NS dns1.interip.nl.
5M NS dns2.interip.nl.
5M NS dns3.interip.net.
;Additional:
dns1.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.10 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:144
dns2.interip.nl. 5M A 81.4.76.20 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:144
dns3.interip.net. 5M A 195.128.185.96 ;NOT trusted (yet); rtt:162(netlen:20)
;NOERROR AUTH NORECURSE 7 answers.
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From what I can see, the nameservers at interip are STILL returning the ip you do not want them to go to.All cookies cleared!Comment
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Your friend should sue you for not being a real webmaster who knows how to do things right.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
So you think its right they forward the domain to a porn site (whether on purpose or by accident)...LOL it has no use to argue with it you, since you aren't cutting to the case here. Whether I should've changed my DNS is irrelevant. Its all about why there was a porn site assigned to www.fuji-ya.nl . The site should have been down as the server went down. Simple as that.
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WTF?Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
You think so?
Ok let me just spill it and see how much I get owned.
A close friend of mine runs a japanese restaurant here in holland which I hosted at webair.com. Well I stopped hosting there and ofcourse the server got shut down.
Well apparently when you visit www.fuji-ya.nl it should be down, but no these fuckers just had to redirect it to a porn site. My friend got numerous calls from clients who were shocked
This is not a way to do business.
I am having the name servers changed as I speak, thanks a lot webair.
Wow I would not even consider hosting there now even if they gave me a free server. That's fucked up beyond any words...
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And you are as clueless as PP...Originally posted by 50 Cent
WTF? Wow I would not even consider hosting there now even if they gave me a free server. That's fucked up beyond any words...
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I agree. It is 100% webair's fault. If I was a new customer I would not want to be on the same ip that some porn site was before me, it is standard practice to assign a fresh ip to a client, why? well what if a customer before got this ip blacklisted by search engines, then the new customer's domain is blacklisted on search engines and he is loosing traffic + Webair should have removed the entry from the name servers to start with.Originally posted by roly
surely if he's pointing to NS.WEBAIR.COM & NS2.WEBAIR.COM he's using webairs dns and the entrys for his domain should have been removed when he closed his account, before the ip was given to someone else.
And all these webair whores STFU, I would like to see your reaction if this happend to you. This is fucked up enough to go to court IMHO.Comment
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Originally posted by cherrylula
Your friend should sue you for not being a real webmaster who knows how to do things right.
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learn how to be a webmaster before you offer to host your friends sites.Originally posted by PlatinumPimp
You think so?
Ok let me just spill it and see how much I get owned.
A close friend of mine runs a japanese restaurant here in holland which I hosted at webair.com. Well I stopped hosting there and ofcourse the server got shut down.
Well apparently when you visit www.fuji-ya.nl it should be down, but no these fuckers just had to redirect it to a porn site. My friend got numerous calls from clients who were shocked This is not a way to do business.
I am having the name servers changed as I speak, thanks a lot webair.
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What bullshit.Originally posted by 50 Cent
I agree. It is 100% webair's fault. If I was a new customer I would not want to be on the same ip that some porn site was before me, it is standard practice to assign a fresh ip to a client, why? well what if a customer before got this ip blacklisted by search engines, then the new customer's domain is blacklisted on search engines and he is loosing traffic + Webair should have removed the entry from the name servers to start with.
And all these webair whores STFU, I would like to see your reaction if this happend to you. This is fucked up enough to go to court IMHO.
You do know that there is a limited number of IP addresses available in the current IPv4 right? You also know that hosts have to have good reasons for requesting more IP's right?
As far as SE's blocking based on IP address do you have any proof that can back this up?? As far as I know, the only real concern is being RBL'd for spam by IP address. SE's don't blacklist by IP based on the fact that Virtual Hosts exist. They'd block half the fucking world.
A lot of times, hosts will assign a hand full of IP's to a server. You get whatever is on the server. I can understand a DEDICATED customer getting a new IP address, but not a virtual hosting customer.
We don't know what kind of setup this guy had with Webaire. However, I'm willing to bet, webaire did everything correctly on their side. They're too big a host not to have. They know the consequences. Besides, even if Webaire removes the DNS information... IE Cashes it. Unless you do a reload and clear your cache, IE will send you to the last known location. Plus as several people have said, it can take up to 72 hours for DNS to propagate. That's a week.
You want to leave a host? Make sure your new host is up and ready to go. Other wise you do so at your own risk. When you cancel an account, you can specify when you want it done. That way you can make sure you have a backup site.
In this case, I would say the original poster is at fault and shouldn't be complaining to anyone. Not to mention the fact that this didn't belong on the board in the first place but in a work ticket, email or phone call to Webaire. He handled this whole thing piss poor..... Its ignorant webmasters who cause problems for the rest of us.Last edited by the_wizz; 08-30-2004, 08:19 AM.Comment
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