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|  08-29-2004, 10:34 PM | #1 | 
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				Man's HIV Diagnosis Reversed 8 Years Later
			 Can anyone say lawsuit?  From Yahoo News: "A California man who once tested positive for HIV has learned the diagnosis made eight years ago was mistaken and he never had the virus that causes AIDS . Jim Malone spent years battling depression and losing weight, expecting to die at any time. He attended support group meetings and accepted free meals from an AIDS charity. Malone's main doctor, Richard Karp, acknowledged the error in an Aug. 4 letter to the Department of Veterans Affairs clinic where Malone was treated. " Full Article Here. 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:34 PM | #2 | 
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				 | Talk about RELIEF and ANGER! 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:35 PM | #3 | 
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				 | lavshuit Damn! | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:36 PM | #4 | 
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				 | Damn I bet he is a happy man now. 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:36 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Now that's some fucked up shit!  | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:36 PM | #6 | 
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				 | I just heard that on the radio, thats fucked up big time. 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:37 PM | #7 | 
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				 | too bad he started to have unprotected sex ever since he knew he had aids 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:38 PM | #8 | 
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				 | OMG ... I'd be soooooooo fucking mad | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:38 PM | #9 | 
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				 | would be fucked if the doctors came back AGAIN and said oops my bad, you do have it afterall .... 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:39 PM | #10 | 
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				 | Do I hear someone calling 1800Lawyer? | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:41 PM | #11 | |
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|  08-29-2004, 10:43 PM | #12 | 
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				 | helllllllo mr lawsuit from hell!! | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:44 PM | #13 | 
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				 | One of the things that struck me about this  was the fact that hes probably been taking those cocktail drugs since they misdiagnosed him.   I know a few people who have AIDS  and they say that shit really fucks with them,  and there really are no long term studies of the effects,  or of the usefulness of them to some one with the disease.   Most die within a few years of being diagnosed. | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:46 PM | #14 | 
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				 | You'd think the guy would be a little happier about it.. PO'd for a bit, sure, but he just got a whole lotta years added to his life.  Presumably better ones. | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:47 PM | #15 | 
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				 | magic johnson is still alive dont believe the hype | 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:47 PM | #16 | 
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				 | ouch! 
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|  08-29-2004, 10:52 PM | #17 | |
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 not sure what price tag you can put on that in a lawsuit, millions is what i would be looking for | |
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|  08-29-2004, 10:59 PM | #18 | 
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				 | Shit like that happens all the time. There was a lady in Seattle that had both breasts removed bacause of cancer. Only problem was that she did not have breast cancer. 
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|  08-29-2004, 11:08 PM | #19 | 
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				 | I can't believe that it would have taken 8 years to find out the truth if he was under the constant care of a doctor. I'm sure he had lots of blood tests over the years. Shouldn't someone have noticed that his T-cell count wasn't decreasing over time the way you might expect if he had HIV? | 
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|  08-30-2004, 12:16 AM | #20 | 
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				 | that's extreme fuck up but at least it's a good news ultimately... | 
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|  08-30-2004, 12:17 AM | #21 | |
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|  08-30-2004, 02:13 AM | #22 | 
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				 | reason to always get a 2nd opinion 
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|  08-30-2004, 02:28 AM | #23 | 
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				 | yeah wtf,he didn't have any other tests all these years to see what's going on with his condition? | 
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|  08-30-2004, 02:39 AM | #24 | 
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				 | if i was him i'd be torching that surgery right about now | 
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|  08-30-2004, 02:42 AM | #25 | 
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|  08-30-2004, 02:44 AM | #26 | 
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				 | Damn, I'd be really pissed and happy at the same time. I'd for sure sue. | 
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|  08-30-2004, 02:51 AM | #27 | 
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				 | thats fucked up and good at the same time 
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|  08-30-2004, 04:51 AM | #28 | 
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				 | dang, that's really unkewl 
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|  08-30-2004, 04:53 AM | #29 | 
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				 | FUCK. that sucks! hopefully he will receive some serious $$$$$$$ 
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|  08-30-2004, 05:11 AM | #30 | 
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				 | you are only as sick as your medical insurance is good. the doctors were getting paid and that is all that mattered. they knew he was good to pay the bill so they kept it going. | 
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|  08-30-2004, 05:35 AM | #31 | 
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				 | the shit that guy must have gone through. | 
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|  08-30-2004, 05:44 AM | #32 | 
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				 | imagine the relief that  guy felt when he found out........poor guy 
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|  08-30-2004, 07:15 AM | #33 | |
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|  08-30-2004, 07:53 AM | #34 | 
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				 | "The error may have occurred because Malone arrived at the clinic in 1996 with lab results from a testing firm showing he had HIV, said Karen Pridmore, spokeswoman for the VA's Northern California Health Care System. The clinic performed its own HIV test on Malone to confirm the first set of results and it came back negative, but that information was never shared with the patient, Pridmore said. The mistake was uncovered by the VA's computer system, which tracks HIV patients and conducts a periodic review of cases. " ~~~~~~~~~~~ The part I find interesting about this whole situation is that last statement... how periodic did they check if they didn't catch this for 8 years. I have seen friends take that triple cocktail HIV meds... it is not pretty. My own doctor in Seattle was exposed once and had to take start the meds...just in case... until the tests came back negative, twice. He was so sick just from the meds and the thought he may have contracted HIV from a stupid mistake in his office. Now that this guys has been through all of this for 8 years he is the perfect person to do volunteer work. He can honestly say 'I know what you are going through' | 
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|  08-30-2004, 07:59 AM | #35 | 
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				 | What a nightmare!!!  Imagaine if he started to date HIV infected men (there are groups out there that do that) and then caught it that way?  Imagine living 8  years of  your life thinking you are going to die and then blam0 you're not?  I am sure everyone involved realizes that this man is owed some serious money!! 
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|  08-30-2004, 08:55 AM | #36 | 
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|  08-30-2004, 09:03 AM | #37 | 
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				 | Folks, I stress: Serious diagnosis = second opinion.  Third possibly. I smell a great deal of money coming to this guy. | 
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|  08-30-2004, 09:04 AM | #38 | 
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				 | Breaking News from Alive & Well July 2004 Top Entertainment Industry Voice Comments on The Other Side of AIDS Following its debut screening last month in New York, the well-known film industry magazine Variety ran a review of the documentary The Other Side of AIDS at its web site. Below are some of the many encouraging remarks included in the article. Look for the full text of the review coming soon to the film?s official web site www.theothersideofaids.com where you can also check out the growing list of film festivals that have selected The Other Side of AIDS for screening. From Variety: ?This explosively controversial documentary takes the "other side" of the official medical stance on the origin of AIDS, specifically doubting whether HIV is a cause of the disease?One cannot help but root for the underdog hypothesis. Add the story of a healthy infant force-fed AZT, and the cost of complacency appears too high. ?The first part of documentary argues strenuously that HIV is a viral construct that has neither been isolated nor proven to cause AIDS?It further contends that HIV tests only detect antibodies, not HIV itself, and that people can test positive for a number of non-specific reasons, including pregnancy. It speculates that a growing number of diseases are opportunistically and arbitrarily bundled under the nebulous AIDS umbrella [and] calls for a re-examination of the whole concept of AIDS and HIV. ?The main proponents of this theory include once-prominent Nobel-nominated scientist Peter Duesberg, whose stock in the scientific community declined sharply once he began second-guessing the role of HIV, and personable, articulate activist Christine Maggiore, who has lived healthily without AIDS medication since she was diagnosed HIV-positive in 1992. ?Various other men and women diagnosed with HIV, but electing not to take drugs, weigh in with testimonies. Particularly interesting are those who allege that support groups in fact encourage fatalism and contribute to death: any belief in the ability to beat the odds is considered a form of denial that needs to be quickly nipped in the bud. One interviewee likens this to primitive societies' death-inducing beliefs in taboos and spells? ?[The film] probably scores the most points in an emotion-charged interview with an HIV-positive mother forced by the State to give her newborn infant AZT although the baby, as well as her husband and other child, all tested negative. The inflexibility of the medical establishment, backed by drug companies and enforced by governmental decree seem in these cases to form an unholy alliance. ?The picture which has been denounced by gay organizations such as ACT UP, has already led to virulent controversy, and promises to become a cause celebre in the medical and gay communities.? 
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