The AFF Top-100 List - GoFuckYourself.com

2HousePlague · 08-29-2004, 02:12 AM

Over the last few days I have seen several threads where sponsors share details about the performance of their top affiliates. In some of these threads AFF had come up with curiosity. I've had people ask what our top guys make. This is why we will never reveal such information.

Our top-100 list reads like a who's-who of the biggest players in the industry. In other words, you know these people. They are the wealthiest and most influential members of our community. At that level, this business is as much about politics as it is money. Where you send your traffic and where you don't when you are that influential, visible, and powerful could have significant implications to both your business and the businesses of the companies you do business with.

In this regard AFF is like Switzerland. The elite all have accounts with us. But we won't ever tell. It is not a matter of being coy, it is a matter of being smart.

Jack Mardack
General Manager of Affiliate Programs
FriendFinder Inc.

Doctor Dre · 08-29-2004, 02:14 AM

No doubt ... this would beat any affiliate list arround here anyways ...

A sponsor top list is cool ... but knowing what other people do (when you can guess who's who) is just lame

Bike · 08-29-2004, 02:17 AM

Fukeneh · 08-29-2004, 03:18 AM

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Originally posted by Doctor Dre
No doubt ... this would beat any affiliate list arround here anyways ...

A sponsor top list is cool ... but knowing what other people do (when you can guess who's who) is just lame

you coudlnt guess who is who if it was staring you in the face.

adultentertainment · 08-29-2004, 03:23 AM

fair enough...we'll put you down for "no thanks".

any other sponsors?

DaLord · 08-29-2004, 03:24 AM

Thank you Jack.

Shows you're real businessmen and you will have my business for a long time.

2HousePlague · 08-29-2004, 01:14 PM

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Originally posted by DaLord
Thank you Jack.

Shows you're a real businessman and you will have my business for a long time.

Thanks! I appreciate that.

j-

vitty · 08-29-2004, 01:16 PM

Shap · 08-29-2004, 01:43 PM

Jack. Good Call!

2HousePlague · 08-29-2004, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by shap
Jack. Good Call!

Thanks, shap.

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tapeworm206 · 08-29-2004, 01:53 PM

Jack,

I would like to talk about my site... www.NWWL.com

Can you hit me back at:

hmann at nwwl.com

hyper · 08-29-2004, 01:55 PM

it's not in your TOS that you reserve the right to disclose affiliate earnings
so thanks for respecting my privacy

2HousePlague · 08-29-2004, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by hyper
it's not in your TOS that you reserve the right to disclose affiliate earnings
so thanks for respecting my privacy

You are very welcome.

Traffic is just like cash, in that the people who have a great deal of it must think of it in terms of "investment capital". I'd be happy to discuss with anyone why and how AFF offers the best traffic ROI in the industry.

But I WILL NOT compromise the privacy of our "investors" in any way.

Our policies, in that regard, are very much like those of a financial institution.

j-

iwantu · 08-29-2004, 06:58 PM

Very good professional business policy!

Only as a suggestion though, what about allowing the affiliates to optionally hide their identity or country in the top100?

sperbonzo · 08-30-2004, 10:23 AM

Whatch these guys (AFF) become the biggest affiliate program around pretty soon....

2HousePlague · 08-30-2004, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Whatch these guys (AFF) become the biggest affiliate program around pretty soon....

Thanks, Mike.

"...biggest affiliate program...pretty soon..." huh?

I won't make that argument here.

But certainly there is no larger single-site adult program than AFF.

j-

DatingGold · 08-30-2004, 11:22 AM

only fucking idiots would say who their biggest affiliates are..

and the programs that list them but are too vague like:

John H. - $9000.00

are full of shit.

maxjohan · 08-30-2004, 11:26 AM

God that is so professional that I almost pee my pants.

Good to see someone completly serious about
business in this industry.

Xenophage · 08-30-2004, 11:27 AM

Word, I would not want my competiton to gleam anything form posting numbers.

But I love seing other peoples numbers so if anyone else wants to post feel free...

2HousePlague · 08-30-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by LegendaryLars
Word, I would not want my competiton to glean anything form posting numbers.

But I love seing other peoples numbers so if anyone else wants to post feel free...

Lars, you have no competition -- IM(not so)HO

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johndoebob · 08-30-2004, 11:35 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Whatch these guys (AFF) become the biggest affiliate program around pretty soon....

They are around for quite a while and I doubt there'll be anyone bigger that converts all traffic from almost every country in almost every language better.

Xenophage · 08-30-2004, 11:40 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
They are around for quite a while and I doubt there'll be anyone bigger that converts all traffic from almost every country in almost every language better.

Yes that is true !

Azure Sales · 08-30-2004, 11:43 AM

Good to know you don't kiss and tell like some other people Jack

johnbosh · 08-30-2004, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by Bike

Reak · 08-30-2004, 11:45 AM

AFF Fucking rocks

2HousePlague · 08-30-2004, 11:46 AM

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Originally posted by johndoebob
They are around for quite a while and I doubt there'll be anyone bigger that converts all traffic from almost every country in almost every language better.

Thanks, JDB.

The multi-lingual / international strategy has been very successful for us. We are actually OPENING many new markets -- not just to sex personals, but to online dating in the first place. This kind of coverage allows us to monetize ANY traffic. Whatever the source -- India, Brazil, Eastern Europe, etc -- it has value on AFF.

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Sly_RJ · 08-30-2004, 11:47 AM

I was pretty disappointed with the various sponsors posting stats, and I think those affiliates should be too. By looking at the locations I could guess who many of the listed affiliates were, and in many cases it wasn't just a guess, I knew exactly who it was.

Stats are nobodies business but those who work directly with those numbers.

Doctor Dre · 08-30-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Whatch these guys (AFF) become the biggest affiliate program around pretty soon....

Hrmm ... they probably already are in the top

2HousePlague · 08-30-2004, 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ
I was pretty disappointed with the various sponsors posting stats, and I think those affiliates should be too. By looking at the locations I could guess who many of the listed affiliates were, and in many cases it wasn't just a guess, I knew exactly who it was.

Stats are nobodies business but those who work directly with those numbers.

Yeah -- that's a pretty short-sighted move on their part, I'd say.

"I'm going to attract lots of new small affiliates by publicizing the earnings of my larger ones..."

Not smart.

We look after our interests (and those of our affiliates) better than that.

j-

TheWildcard · 08-30-2004, 11:59 AM

AFF rocks.

Reak · 08-30-2004, 12:00 PM

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Originally posted by sperbonzo
Whatch these guys (AFF) become the biggest affiliate program around pretty soon....

They are in the top 5 for sure.

johndoebob · 08-30-2004, 12:01 PM

Also some webmasters can get into serious troubles because of the local laws regarding porn.Seen by the wrong person from your city and you have problems. I doubt that guy from Shanghai likes that the stats were posted in public even if it's a very big city.

08-29-2004, 02:12 AM	#1
2HousePlague CURATOR Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: the attic Posts: 14,572	The Aff Top-100 List Over the last few days I have seen several threads where sponsors share details about the performance of their top affiliates. In some of these threads AFF had come up with curiosity. I've had people ask what our top guys make. This is why we will never reveal such information. Our top-100 list reads like a who's-who of the biggest players in the industry. In other words, you know these people. They are the wealthiest and most influential members of our community. At that level, this business is as much about politics as it is money. Where you send your traffic and where you don't when you are that influential, visible, and powerful could have significant implications to both your business and the businesses of the companies you do business with. In this regard AFF is like Switzerland. The elite all have accounts with us. But we won't ever tell. It is not a matter of being coy, it is a matter of being smart. Jack Mardack General Manager of Affiliate Programs FriendFinder Inc. __________________ tada! Last edited by 2HousePlague; 08-29-2004 at 02:14 AM..

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DaLord Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Denmark Posts: 3,318	Thank you Jack. Shows you're real businessmen and you will have my business for a long time.

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Shap Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 8,313	Jack. Good Call!

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tapeworm206 Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 282	Jack, I would like to talk about my site... www.NWWL.com Can you hit me back at: hmann at nwwl.com

08-30-2004, 10:23 AM	#15
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DatingGold $6 PER EMAIL JOiN Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: California Posts: 13,185	only fucking idiots would say who their biggest affiliates are.. and the programs that list them but are too vague like: John H. - $9000.00 are full of shit. __________________ 9 Years of SOLID payouts and conversions! ADULT DATING - $100 PPS LIVE CAMS - $214 PPS WWW.DATINGGOLD.COM ICQ: 27442303 Last edited by DatingGold; 08-30-2004 at 11:23 AM..

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Xenophage Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 12,122	Word, I would not want my competiton to gleam anything form posting numbers. But I love seing other peoples numbers so if anyone else wants to post feel free...

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Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	I was pretty disappointed with the various sponsors posting stats, and I think those affiliates should be too. By looking at the locations I could guess who many of the listed affiliates were, and in many cases it wasn't just a guess, I knew exactly who it was. Stats are nobodies business but those who work directly with those numbers. __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

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johndoebob Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 3,405	Also some webmasters can get into serious troubles because of the local laws regarding porn.Seen by the wrong person from your city and you have problems. I doubt that guy from Shanghai likes that the stats were posted in public even if it's a very big city. __________________